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    I don’t believe you can do a trade on draft night with a team that won’t have cap room until the first of July.

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    I don’t believe you can do a trade on draft night with a team that won’t have cap room until the first of July.

    Yea that too

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    Thanks for posting. Always good to have something new to read when we're out of the playoffs.

    Ainge has shown that he doesn't like to make a deal unless he can feel like he's completely bent somebody over. I guess anything is possible, but I'm pretty skeptical about any deal getting done with the C's.
    I don't think this is about doing a deal with the Celtics. But if they use their picks for trading up or roster trades with another team, three picks in the first round can really roil the market. Then add in our two picks and who knows what moves could be made or what players might drop down the list.

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    In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

    Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

    76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

    The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1
    This makes sense, solid points.

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    In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

    Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

    76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

    The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1

    Philly is at $137.7 million of cap holds excluding picks. Renounce Boban + Scott + waive JSimmons ($1mm hit) knocks off $23.2 million, so puts them at $114.5 million, which is still over the cap and wouldn’t let them make a 7/1 trade.

    So only way for them to have actual cap space would be to renounce one of Harris, Re or Butler (after he opts out). I don’t see them doing that unless one of those guys indicates he’s leaving, and all to acquire Beli?


    And as discussed hear ad nauseam, the Spurs don’t have much use of cap space unless they clear a bunch of it. Trading just Beli doesn’t do anything except create a trade exception.

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    Philly is at $137.7 million of cap holds excluding picks. Renounce Boban + Scott + waive JSimmons ($1mm hit) knocks off $23.2 million, so puts them at $114.5 million, which is still over the cap and wouldn’t let them make a 7/1 trade.

    So only way for them to have actual cap space would be to renounce one of Harris, Re or Butler (after he opts out). I don’t see them doing that unless one of those guys indicates he’s leaving, and all to acquire Beli?


    And as discussed hear ad nauseam, the Spurs don’t have much use of cap space unless they clear a bunch of it. Trading just Beli doesn’t do anything except create a trade exception.
    Your right, rookie mistake, I forgot to take into account Harris and Butler's roster holds. Unless they swap Simmons and 35 for Beli but that is a lot less appealing

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    What a ty article. The spurs might make a move but they might not. Yeah very insightful.

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    In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

    Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

    76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

    The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1
    No it doesn't. Phil has better options than Bellinelli.

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    No it doesn't. Phil has better options than Bellinelli.
    not at that price...also considering he already knows the system and how to play with their main players...

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    I don't think this is about doing a deal with the Celtics. But if they use their picks for trading up or roster trades with another team, three picks in the first round can really roil the market. Then add in our two picks and who knows what moves could be made or what players might drop down the list.

    I was tryna be nice, and encourage people who post outside content. The article is weak, and doesn't say a whole lot of anything. The Spurs aren't going to move up just to get a higher number. IF they move up, it will be with a specific player in mind. And you don't trade up to pick a guy you could have had at 19 anyway. The only thing that's going to "shake up" this draft is if they sneak in some better players at the last minute. (Don't make me whip out the blue font. I know they can't do that.)

    The article doesn't even mention that Philadelphia has 5 picks in this draft. What the is Philadelphia going to do with 5 rookies from a weak draft? T
    he Spurs could burn a pick to try and shed salary. But the only one that really moves the needle is Patty, and I don't see Pop letting him go. If he does, that will shake up this site, but I don't think it makes waves in the draft at large.

    I don't think there would be a huge amount of variation in the first 18 players picked, regardless of which teams are making the picks. A little variation in the order, but not wholesale change.

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    In terms of draft day trades for the Spurs; Bellinelli to the 76ers for the 34th or 35th pick makes sense for both sides the tbh.

    Spurs clear out $5.85 million by trading him into Philly's cap space, clear out another roster spot, gives Walker a path for minute or minutes for another free agent.

    76ers get a rotation player who played well for them, previously. Their bench was likely the reason they missed the ECF and Beli comes cheap (they can take him into cap space)

    The trade would have to officially be completed on 7/1
    Might make some sense. We would lose what we need most, though: shooting.

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    Memo to spurstalk: only post articles that Chinook finds exciting and innovative.

    not sure why I lol'ed

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    Your right, rookie mistake, I forgot to take into account Harris and Butler's roster holds. Unless they swap Simmons and 35 for Beli but that is a lot less appealing
    I see what you did there


    Might make some sense. We would lose what we need most, though: shooting.
    No, what we need most is wings who can shoot and play defense. What we have now is one-way shooters who are horrible on other end of floor. The fact that Forbes was playing the best defense of the four shooters should tell you something.

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    The Spurs are in positiohn to do nothing unusual on Draft day.

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    The Spurs are in positiohn to do nothing unusual on Draft day.
    Those 19/29 can be used to move up though

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    Those 19/29 can be used to move up though
    To where? It's not getting them in the top 10.. might be able to move up a few spots but that's about it.

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    I think the Spurs will package the 29th pick with Bertans and maybe Belinelli for an established player.
    Yes. I think this is the most obvious move for me.

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    To where? It's not getting them in the top 10.. might be able to move up a few spots but that's about it.

    Well yea if they like a player slotted higher.Still two picks in the twenties isnt getting them anywhere near top10

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    If we not bringing over Nikola this year then we need to trade him two teams I think need a big man and would trade with us.

    Philly:
    They cant count on Embid being healthy all year and will Have to manage his minutes so a good back up center is essential. They trade their 24th first and their 33 second plus the rights to Vasilije Micic. We give them Nikola and our second round pick.

    Celtics:
    Nikola for their 20th pick.

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    Well yea if they like a player slotted higher.Still two picks in the twenties isnt getting them anywhere near top10
    I'm just not sure how that's "shaking up the draft?" ... but I guess we'll see..

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    Those 19/29 can be used to move up though
    The consensus seems to be that after 10, there isn't much differentiation. Those two picks aren't getting you into the top 10, so what you're really doing is trading two post 10 draft picks for one post 10 draft pick.

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    The consensus seems to be that after 10, there isn't much differentiation. Those two picks aren't getting you into the top 10, so what you're really doing is trading two post 10 draft picks for one post 10 draft pick.

    That says it in a couple of sentences. Somewhere in those post 10 picks will be a few standouts. The Spurs have a better chance than most at finding them. The Spurs aren't likely to trade up unless they are really confident that they've spotted one of them, and he won't be there at 19.

    It's hard for me to see them trading the 19 pick, just because it lets them get their guy. It would be a shame to trade 19, and then have the guy you want get taken at 25.

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    I'm just not sure how that's "shaking up the draft?" ... but I guess we'll see..

    It isnt thats why the article is stoopid

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