Game of Thrones - 14 minute preview

[spurraider21]

The series finale has officially being rated a worst finale than Dexter according to IMDB, Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. Ouch

i disagree with that. i think dexter finished in about the worst possible way. thrones' execution this last season was poor, but the conclusion wasn't the worst case scenario

plus dexter was more or less so bad by that point it wasn't bothering that many people ... the show really took a turn for the worse after season 4 (i think season 7 was actually decent with Ray Stevenson portraying that russian ganster dude).

people are complaining a lot more about Thrones because expectations were so much higher going into the last season

[HarlemHeat37]

i disagree with that. i think dexter finished in about the worst possible way. thrones' execution this last season was poor, but the conclusion wasn't the worst case scenario

plus dexter was more or less so bad by that point it wasn't bothering that many people ... the show really took a turn for the worse after season 4 (i think season 7 was actually decent with Ray Stevenson portraying that russian ganster dude).

people are complaining a lot more about Thrones because expectations were so much higher going into the last season

It's also the most discussed show in history, the biggest social media phenomenon we've had..there's a lot of groupthink that affects perception, as well..

[redzero]

It's also the most discussed show in history, the biggest social media phenomenon we've had..there's a lot of groupthink that affects perception, as well..

The showrunners didn't want to do the show anymore and didn't want anybody else to touch their "creation." Hopefully, the bad blood between them and fans will make them unemployable in the future, but that probably won't be the case. Good thing people are already tired of Star Wars and the fanbases interlap.

[spurraider21]

[leemajors]

Can you imagine been shipped to the same place where you got brutally murdered for doing the good thing? Having to pass by the same place every day where you took a dozen knives to the chest. That's twisted.

People say Dany's character got assasinated but Jon's got done worse. Not only did he do absolutely nothing in season 8, but his entire arc meant nothing. He's basically still a bas to most of the realm.

Jesus Christ what a cluster . The more I think about it the more annoyed I get with the way they handled everything.

Jon ed up left and right. He failed up at every turn.

[Trill Clinton]

Thank God a white guy is king tho, right?

Lol

[Xevious]

Jesus I miss Charles Dance as Tywin. I've been rewatching some older episodes and that scene when he sends Joffrey to bed is ing awesome. Nobody else had the screen presence he had... maybe Diana Rigg as Olenna.

[DJR210]

what a piece of steaming . This season was such a failure.

How the is the Dothraki and Unsullied gonna sit back and let their beloved Queen get killed by Jon Snow and nobody does about it? Didn't she "break their chains"? The ing Dragon must not have a penis/balls either, cuz he didn't do either. I was SMH when Jon is walking through the streets, walking elbow to elbow w/ Dothraki and Unsullied, and nobody could give a less..

Grey Worm takes Jon back to his own friends to snitch on him and even though he say's he "cannot" they go ahead and let him off the hook and choose a new leader

A non-experienced ing cripple at that

[Beartrucci]

A non-experienced ing cripple at that

Is he inexperienced though? He can see all the decisions/strategies/mistakes any leader has ever made.

[Reck]

Game of Memes.

[Beartrucci]

Game of Memes.

Seriously I think she said that 3 times in 5 minutes the writing was so awful at points

[resistanze]

Maybe I missed something, but how did Grey Worm teleport to the steps with Dany?

Jon and Davos left Grey Worm see Dany when Grey Worm was executing Lannister soldiers

[resistanze]

I also found it weird Dany would put herself in position to be murdered by Jon given her growing su ion and events leading up to that point:
- Found out Jon had a better claim to the throne
- Found out many people were conspiring against her to have Jon take the throne
- He already betrayed her trust by telling Sansa and co
- She had to know Jon would not support her massacring a million innocent people

Really? No guards? Tyrion even suggested Dany would come after Jon next. Jesus.

[Xevious]

Is he inexperienced though? He can see all the decisions/strategies/mistakes any leader has ever made.

So you'd be cool electing Alexa as your leader?

[redzero]

I also found it weird Dany would put herself in position to be murdered by Jon given her growing su ion and events leading up to that point:
- Found out Jon had a better claim to the throne
- Found out many people were conspiring against her to have Jon take the throne
- He already betrayed her trust by telling Sansa and co
- She had to know Jon would not support her massacring a million innocent people

Really? No guards? Tyrion even suggested Dany would come after Jon next. Jesus.

The fact that Tyrion and Jon were able to even have an unsupervised conversation about killing Dany in the first place is re ed. Jon being able to walk around with his weapons, after clashing with Grey Wrom, was re ed. Dany having no guards but Drogon was re ed. Did Drogon do a sweep of the throne room before Dany went in? She thought she could just walk around after committing mass murder?

The first 30 minutes looked badass, but that's about it. Daenerys went from Dragon Hitler in one scene to naive little girl in the next. And we're supposed to want Tyrion to be pardoned when he did commit treason by releasing Jaime and trying to rescue Cersei?

[DJR210]

The fact that Tyrion and Jon were able to even have an unsupervised conversation about killing Dany in the first place is re ed. Jon being able to walk around with his weapons, after clashing with Grey Wrom, was re ed. Dany having no guards but Drogon was re ed. Did Drogon do a sweep of the throne room before Dany went in? She thought she could just walk around after committing mass murder?

ing stupid ass gatekeeper dragon allows Jon in then doesn't kill him, but the Iron Throne for the murder of his mother.. I ing hate this season. Total disgrace of a final season to a show I have in my top 3 w/ Breaking Bad and Sopranos.

[Xevious]

The more I think about it, the more pissed I get.

[redzero]

ing stupid ass gatekeeper dragon allows Jon in then doesn't kill him, but the Iron Throne for the murder of his mother.. I ing hate this season. Total disgrace of a final season to a show I have in my top 3 w/ Breaking Bad and Sopranos.

And then Grey Worm or the Unsullied or the Dothraki don't kill Jon. And they don't kill Tyrion either, even though he was going to be executed anyway. And Grey Worm lets Tyrion get off scot-free despite saying that Tyrion's punishment "isn't enough." Then he lets Jon go to the Wall as "punishment," even though the Wall is in the now independent North and there is literally no way to ensure that Jon stays there. And then Grey Worm leaves before even seeing Jon's punishment being carried out.

This season was a dumpster fire. The first episode was okay and the second was good, but the rest were terrible. There were THREE different main villains in THREE consecutive episodes, and the final villain's heel turn didn't make any sense. Almost every single character was dumbed down and portrayed out of character for the plot to even be possible. Jon was made completely useless for almost all of the season. With his backstory and stature, he had the most interesting plotline, but he was turned to a plot device to sell the Mad Queen plot. Tyrion became even dumber and still believed in Cersei having the capacity for goodness for no reason. Jaime should have died in Winterfell, because what D&D did to his character afterwards was criminal. Cersei did nothing, her pregnancy meant nothing, and D&D tried to portray her demise sympathetically for no logical reason I can think of. Daenerys is hated or ignored by almost every other important character for little logical reason beyond turning her into the second Mad Queen, and the turn still didn't make sense in the end. Arya became even more of a Mary Sue, and she was shoehorned into King's Landing plot for no reason. Sansa was allegedly "smart," but she antagonized Daenerys to her face and trying to have Jon usurp her without Jon's knowledge. Varys read the scripts beforehand and tried to kill Daenerys off before King's Landing was even captured. He tried to convince Jon to overthrow her despite Jon barely knowing him and Daenerys being Jon's kin and lover. Missandei didn't talk to Daenerys for the entire season up until her death, and we are supposed to believe that her death is partially what pushed Dany over the edge. Rhaegal died nonsensically to also push Dany over the edge, and Jon didn't even care. Ghost was abandoned by Jon solely so Jon could come back to him in the end, and re ed audiences ate that all up. Davos didn't advise Jon at all. Nobody cared about using Bran's powers for their own gain, and the lords of Westeros accepted him as king for no reason. Harry Strickland and the Golden Company didn't even need to exist. Bronn was shoehorned into the fourth consecutive season, because people like this useless character. Euron existed only to annoy and antagonize, teleporting wherever the plot needed him to be for drama. Maybe Theon and Jorah are the only characters with

I accepted season seven for what it was, even though it was rushed. In hindsight, it pushed the White Walker threat as the most important conflict for no reason. It pushed Jon's importance as a Targaryen and the rightful heir, but the show didn't even try to explore how he feels about it. It foreshadowed Jon and Daenerys working together in almost equal status, but then Jon followed Dany around like a lapdog and the pregnancy foreshadowing wasn't even addressed. Almost everything was turned on its head to "subvert expectations," and D&D were arrogant and lazy enough to think they could tie everything up in six episodes.

[Othyus Lalanne]

The showrunners didn't want to do the show anymore and didn't want anybody else to touch their "creation." Hopefully, the bad blood between them and fans will make them unemployable in the future, but that probably won't be the case. Good thing people are already tired of Star Wars and the fanbases interlap.

Why do they have to be unemployable?

[redzero]

Why do they have to be unemployable?

I never claimed that they had to be unemployable. I want them to be unemployable because I don't like what they did to Game of Thrones.

[Xevious]

I especially like the pimping they did of the Golden Company as one of the best armies-for-hire with their elephants and . Then they didn't even bring the elephants (lol CGI budget) and they got wiped out without swinging a single sword.

What the did Varys hear in the fire that they though it important enough to tease multiple times throughout the series?

How does the Azor Ahai prophacy and Melisandre's obsession with it fit into the ending at all?

Even though they didn't directly mention it on the show, lol Valonqar prophecy.

And what happened to Jon is completely criminal. All the hints, the buildup, that ing badass reveal in season six... all for nothing. His lineage meant nothing except to piss Dany off.

And if they were going to over Jon and have Dany burn down KL as they did, I'd almost perfer that the seven kingdoms all just go their separate ways - with Sansa, Bron (lol), Gendry, Sweet Robin, Tyrion, and whoever else going on to lead their respective realms. King Bran is a ing joke. Arya taking off to explore is the only end that felt correct.

[Othyus Lalanne]

I never claimed that they had to be unemployable. I want them to be unemployable because I don't like what they did to Game of Thrones.

Till they are dead?

[redzero]

Till they are dead?

Okay, let's back up. I don't want David Benioff and DB Weiss to not be able to have any job whatsoever for the rest of their lives. I do want them to not be directors, screenwriters, etc., based on how poorly they handled Game of Thrones. They could run Apple for all I care, but I wouldn't let them within a mile of a TV show.

[spurraider21]

I especially like the pimping they did of the Golden Company as one of the best armies-for-hire with their elephants and . Then they didn't even bring the elephants (lol CGI budget) and they got wiped out without swinging a single sword.

What the did Varys hear in the fire that they though it important enough to tease multiple times throughout the series?

How does the Azor Ahai prophacy and Melisandre's obsession with it fit into the ending at all?

Even though they didn't directly mention it on the show, lol Valonqar prophecy.

And what happened to Jon is completely criminal. All the hints, the buildup, that ing badass reveal in season six... all for nothing. His lineage meant nothing except to piss Dany off.

And if they were going to over Jon and have Dany burn down KL as they did, I'd almost perfer that the seven kingdoms all just go their separate ways - with Sansa, Bron (lol), Gendry, Sweet Robin, Tyrion, and whoever else going on to lead their respective realms. King Bran is a ing joke. Arya taking off to explore is the only end that felt correct.

and even then she was lovey dovey with him in the last scene

[redzero]

How does the Azor Ahai prophacy and Melisandre's obsession with it fit into the ending at all?

And why did Melisandre go back to Volantis? And where were Kinvara and the other red priests/priestesses?

And what happened to Jon is completely criminal. All the hints, the buildup, that ing badass reveal in season six... all for nothing. His lineage meant nothing except to piss Dany off.

She didn't even care that he was the rightful heir. Jon didn't even want to be King. Dany wanted to rule together with Jon and the only reason Jon had to know that he was the true king was so people could conspire behind his back to put him on the throne. Sansa and Varys were trying to kill Dany off and put Jon on the throne without him even knowing, and Dany still trusted him beyond all reason.