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    Why would the league care about the Spurs / "model franchise"? They've been wanting them to go away for the last 20 years....

    The "league" was probably thrilled at what Nephew/Dennis orchestrated last year and what's happening this year....
    Because the Spurs represent hope to all the other small market franchises . . . false hope, but hope. They can pretend that if they did it, you could too.

    Now, if they can't even hold onto their superstar, who they helped make (this was not some super prospect, like Robinson or Duncan), when they have an elite team, what hope is their for anyone else?

    But it's not even about the Spurs so much as it is justice. This is wrong on so many levels and it should be a massive embarrassment for the league.

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    If Toronto makes the Finals, I’d say there’s a 50/50 shot he stays. 0% if they lose to Milwaukee.
    He's leaving either way. If Toronto wins he can pull a Lebron and say "Well I brought you a ring so you can't be angry at me that I'm leaving."

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    21/6/6 for derozan and dont forget poodle power!
    Who is poodle?

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    Because the Spurs represent hope to all the other small market franchises . . . false hope, but hope. They can pretend that if they did it, you could too.

    Now, if they can't even hold onto their superstar, who they helped make (this was not some super prospect, like Robinson or Duncan), when they have an elite team, what hope is their for anyone else?

    But it's not even about the Spurs so much as it is justice. This is wrong on so many levels and it should be a massive embarrassment for the league.
    They've got the Bucks for that now, my man.

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    Kawhi is not the first POS to do well by screwing people over and he won't be the last.
    Asshole or not (who really knows?), he is a transcendent talent with a calm and humble demeanor on the court (this is what they used to call good sportsmanship). Rather like some notable Spurs of recent past. Leonard plays like a Spur.

    For this reason, I would love to see Leonard win the le against the gloating and obnoxious GS. I don't think it will happen, but perchance to dream.

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    They've got the Bucks for that now, my man.
    The Bucks haven't done . This franchise won 5 championships and had the best winning percentage in sports for 20 years . . . and they did it with a bunch of bad breaks along the way.

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    I thought we already had a Kawhi thread.

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    If the league cared about well run teams they should flatten the draft the lottery odds even more. I'd potentially give playoffs teams 8, 7, 6, and 5 some lottery balls as well tbh.

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    I thought we already had a Kawhi thread.
    We aren't going to reach a 1000 pages like this.

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    I'm not going to bother wasting time rehashing it all for the umpteenth time, but this piece of literally quits on a franchise and gets rewarded by going to the Finals. Meanwhile, the Spurs are now infamous.
    It happens to every organization small or big when they are no longer contending. The bulls since '98 have pretty much been infamous for over 20 years now. As a kid of the '90s they were the most popular dynasty of all time. Even more popular all over the country than what the current day Warriors are today.

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    It happens to every organization small or big when they are no longer contending. The bulls since '98 have pretty much been infamous for over 20 years now. As a kid of the '90s they were the most popular dynasty of all time. Even more popular all over the country than what the current day Warriors are today.
    No, most naturally become bad over time as their great players age out. This is different than that. This is self inflicted. This is you're the team who gave away an all-timer in the making because you didn't have the balls to go through some uncomfortable months to start the season.

    On top of that, you're probably going to be a treadmill team for the foreseeable future, while he'll be contending for championships with the team you gave him to.

    He's got the media eating out of the palm of his hand, while the only time these idiots gets mentioned, is when it's to criticize how out of touch their senile asses are.

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    Wouldn’t that be the best case scenario though? Leonard re-upping with Toronto and staying in the East?
    no. Best case scenario is he doesn't ring and signs with the Brooklyn Nets

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    No, most naturally become bad over time. This is different than that. This is self inflicted. This is you're the team who gave away an all-timer in the making because you didn't have the balls to go through some uncomfortable months to start the season.

    On top of that, you're probably going to be a treadmill team for the foreseeable future, while he'll be contending for championships with the team you gave him to.
    He's got the media eating out of the palm of his hand, while the only time these idiots gets mentioned, is when it's to criticize how out of touch their senile asses are.
    Any other front office crew would get fired for this disgraceful trade, especially with they way this is playing out right now..Any way I'm actually perversely glad they are getting exposed at this dark hour. It is incredible how many long careers and inflated reputations were made on the back of Tim Duncan..

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    Any other front office crew would get fired for this disgraceful trade, especially with they way this is playing out right now..Any way I'm actually perversely glad they are getting exposed at this dark hour. It is incredible how many long careers and inflated reputations were made on the back of Tim Duncan..
    I'd like to be and they definitely deserve it (along with the 76ers, Celtics and Lakers, who ed them over in negotiations and other teams who didn't have the balls to step up despite this being the exact piece the entire league is looking for) but I just can't bring myself to do it.

    Why do we seem to be the only ones outraged? I know it's just sports, but again, to me this is about injustice. Nothing bothers me more than that.

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    No, most naturally become bad over time as their great players age out. This is different than that. This is self inflicted. This is you're the team who gave away an all-timer in the making because you didn't have the balls to go through some uncomfortable months to start the season.

    On top of that, you're probably going to be a treadmill team for the foreseeable future, while he'll be contending for championships with the team you gave him to.

    He's got the media eating out of the palm of his hand, while the only time these idiots gets mentioned, is when it's to criticize how out of touch their senile asses are.
    1. He didn't want to be in SA. I firmly believe that. PATFO screwed up in the sense that they should have gone down fighting him much like the Pelicans are doing with Davis. I wanted them to keep him simply because I'm a pretty vindictive person and wanted to see him sweat it out for another year with the Spurs. Unfortunately they didn't do it. I thought if they wanted to trade him you trade him to ty team in which he has no chance of ringing with hence why trading him to the Hornets for Kemba would have been a better deal.

    2. He's going to bolt from Toronto win or lose. I'm strongly convinced of that. If he wins with the Raptors the media is not going to blast him for leaving simply because his camp will spin it by saying "Hey he got Toronto a ring and that they should be happy with their return."

    3. The media will eventually turn against him. Not because of what he did with the Spurs but because he's not a ratings generator like Lebron,Curry, etc. Evident by the ECF having the lowest ratings for a conference finals since Spurs-Jazz '07.

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    Any other front office crew would get fired for this disgraceful trade, especially with they way this is playing out right now..Any way I'm actually perversely glad they are getting exposed at this dark hour. It is incredible how many long careers and inflated reputations were made on the back of Tim Duncan..
    I agree with you that Tim Duncan made them. I have felt Pop has gotten all the credit for Duncan''s success but you can't be stupid to believe the FO's rep is going to get damaged by #2 winning. The national media doesn't care about POP/RC so they are not going to suffer in any way if #2 wins. If you want Pop to take a hit nationally with the media then your best bet is to hope for Team USA to fail in 2020.

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    1. He didn't want to be in SA. I firmly believe that. PATFO screwed up in the sense that they should have gone down fighting him much like the Pelicans are doing with Davis. I wanted them to keep him simply because I'm a pretty vindictive person and wanted to see him sweat it out for another year with the Spurs. Unfortunately they didn't do it. I thought if they wanted to trade him you trade him to ty team in which he has no chance of ringing with hence why trading him to the Hornets for Kemba would have been a better deal.

    2. He's going to bolt from Toronto win or lose. I'm strongly convinced of that. If he wins with the Raptors the media is not going to blast him for leaving simply because his camp will spin it by saying "Hey he got Toronto a ring and that they should be happy with their return."

    3. The media will eventually turn against him. Not because of what he did with the Spurs but because he's not a ratings generator like Lebron,Curry, etc. Evident by the ECF having the lowest ratings for a conference finals since Spurs-Jazz '07.
    We know he didn't; that's irrelevant. I'll never understand or forgive them for caving in the fashion they did.

    I'd be shocked if he left. Who the either wins a championship or just falls short and leaves? And before anyone says James, he didn't just fall short. Beyond that, he's clearly gotten everything his sleazebag uncle brainwashed him into thinking he should want.

    No, they won't. They love him already, they hate the Spurs and have enjoying every second of rubbing this in.

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    Breh what does the NBA have to do with this?

    They raptors still had to beat philly and series is not over. Bucks can easily steal game 6.

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    We know he didn't; that's irrelevant. I'll never understand or forgive them for caving in the fashion they did.

    I'd be shocked if he left. Who the either wins a championship or just falls short and leaves? And before anyone says James, he didn't just fall short. Beyond that, he's clearly gotten everything his sleazebag uncle brainwashed him into thinking he should want.

    No, they won't. They love him already, they hate the Spurs and have enjoying every second of rubbing this in.
    1. On the first point you don't make any sense. If you know he was going to leave then why are you ing 24/7 about the FO the way they handled it. Like I said before the only thing they could have done better was force him to play out his final year or trade him to some team like the Hornets that would have ensured him not ringing.

    2. I still believe he's going to leave. His head is so big right now i"m sure he believes he can win anywhere based off of his recent success with the Raptors. We'll see what happens July 1st.

    3. The media is always about ratings hence why they always despised Duncan. The media also wants personal access to stars. Guys like Curry,Lebron,Durant give that access while #2 doesn't. The media hates stars that don't give them access along with guys who are not rating generators that's why I don't see this love affair with #2 lasting long term with him in the media.

    4 media being obsessed with the Spurs after this season. Sure they rubbed it in this season but now with the Spurs officially being dead as contenders i don't see them caring anymore to bring up the Spurs when talking about #2.

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    Breh what does the NBA have to do with this?

    They raptors still had to beat philly and series is not over. Bucks can easily steal game 6.
    lol it is over..Bucks, Bud, Giannis are deer-in the headlights..Series lost in the ever deciding, close Game 3 of such type of series ( Backdoor sweep category)

    It is a classic NBA playoffs scenario playing out here..Happened to Spurs-- a more experienced bunch than this Bucks team-- quite few times..

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    It is what it is. The NBA and media indeed hates the Spurs. Barnacle Boy is probably snorting coke off a stripper's ass right about now.

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    lol it is over..Bucks, Bud, Giannis are deer-in the headlights..Series lost in the ever deciding, close Game 3 of such type of series ( Backdoor sweep category)

    It is a classic NBA playoffs scenario playing out here..Happened to Spurs-- a more experienced bunch than this Bucks team-- quite few times..
    Reasons it might not be totally over is that it's unlikely Van Fleet will have a great 3rd game in a row. He's saved the Raptors season. If he kills it again, just gotta tip your cap.

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    Toronto didn't just get Leonard. They went all out and got Gasol who is playing a limited role just to dominate on D. That trade was the difference between getting ounced by sixers and going to the finals.

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    He wanted out guys, get over it
    They can’t. These punk azz fat ers think they own people. Lol

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    Breh what does the NBA have to do with this?

    They raptors still had to beat philly and series is not over. Bucks can easily steal game 6.
    Still had to beat Philly

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