This is the lowest point for the Spurs franchise since 6..

[Twisted_Dawg]

Sure, it'd suck if Neph rings but it doesn't compare to a '79, '95, '04, '06, '13, et al.

FIFY

[dbreiden83080]

How do you trade your franchise player, who pulled a most disgraceful bushleague move on you, to a 59-win team? Not even the Pelicans did to the Lakers who've been sucking for ages..

You send the clown out of conference. Lakers did the same with Shaq and the Heat..
Also he wanted LA, so he got Toronto not exactly LA in terms of lifestyle and weather.. Sadly options were limited. You know any GM RC talked to, was using his injury and absence as a reason to not give up too much.

[weeks]

if you spend hours of your day defending another man's honor on a forum hoping he might someday notice and let you wash his balls, it's time to seriously re-evaluate your life.

for years. how is it possible to hero worship so hard and not feel like a total cuck? is that why you guys use that term so much coz it's on your mind? put the meth pipe down and go outside. it's getting really goku vs superman in here with extra edgy.

[daslicer]

if you spend hours of your day defending another man's honor on a forum hoping he might someday notice and let you wash his balls, it's time to seriously re-evaluate your life.

for years. how is it possible to hero worship so hard and not feel like a total cuck? is that why you guys use that term so much coz it's on your mind? put the meth pipe down and go outside. it's getting really goku vs superman in here with extra edgy.

A bunch of these guys are cucks who can't get over #2 never wanted to be a Spur. So they make 50 excuses to cover up for his bad behavior as a Spur.

[C-Dub]

I believe Tony Parker had a lot to do with Kawhi wanting to leave. Pop and Kawhi had an emotional moment after that 1st Raptors game in which we won. If Pop and Kawhi had an issue that wouldn't of happened. Could you see Pop being like that with Dennis Rodman after he wanted out of San Antonio? He wouldn't even do that Stephen Jackson. I believe Pop wanted Kawhi to be the bigger person and lead after what ever Parker did. I believe they let Parker leave not because of playing time but to show Kawhi that they were willing to get rid of the problem in order for him to stay. It's not that Kawhi quit on the team, he did not want to be around Tony. Look at what Tony did to Brent Barry. I was a TP fan up till 2008 when he seemed to become selfish because he won 2007 Finals MVP. It went to his head and he seemed to cost the team in the years to come because he wanted to be the man. He was mad that Danny was getting all the glory in 2013 Finals, called out the situation because he wanted to stop being double teamed driving to the basket so that he could get his points instead of welcoming the double team so that he can create for others so that he could put up great assist numbers but those are not the numbers he wanted. He wanted points and that's part of the reason the Spurs did not make another Finals appearance until Kawhi came along. If not for Tony still wanting to be the man, Kawhi would've been a better player at least 2 years ahead of schedule. It's still hard for me to root for Kawhi but we do not what exactly happened for him wanting to leave but we did see with our own eyes that him and Pop was okay with each other so stop blaming Pop unless you say he should've let Tony walk before signing him to that last contract. I am starting to come around about the whole Kawhi leaving situation because of that fact and there is no way that I can root for Golden State. You never know after a few years after all the smoke clears he will ne back and Pop will sign another 3 year deal and 3 peat with Kawhi, DJM, White, LW4 and Poeltl. In the mean time don't give up on DDR and Poeltl and whatever player we get with Toronto's 1st round pick. It was the 1st year for both players in the Spurs system. We will be better this coming year barring any major injuries. Peace and I'm out.

[daslicer]

I believe Tony Parker had a lot to do with Kawhi wanting to leave. Pop and Kawhi had an emotional moment after that 1st Raptors game in which we won. If Pop and Kawhi had an issue that wouldn't of happened. Could you see Pop being like that with Dennis Rodman after he wanted out of San Antonio? He wouldn't even do that Stephen Jackson. I believe Pop wanted Kawhi to be the bigger person and lead after what ever Parker did. I believe they let Parker leave not because of playing time but to show Kawhi that they were willing to get rid of the problem in order for him to stay. It's not that Kawhi quit on the team, he did not want to be around Tony. Look at what Tony did to Brent Barry. I was a TP fan up till 2008 when he seemed to become selfish because he won 2007 Finals MVP. It went to his head and he seemed to cost the team in the years to come because he wanted to be the man. He was mad that Danny was getting all the glory in 2013 Finals, called out the situation because he wanted to stop being double teamed driving to the basket so that he could get his points instead of welcoming the double team so that he can create for others so that he could put up great assist numbers but those are not the numbers he wanted. He wanted points and that's part of the reason the Spurs did not make another Finals appearance until Kawhi came along. If not for Tony still wanting to be the man, Kawhi would've been a better player at least 2 years ahead of schedule. It's still hard for me to root for Kawhi but we do not what exactly happened for him wanting to leave but we did see with our own eyes that him and Pop was okay with each other so stop blaming Pop unless you say he should've let Tony walk before signing him to that last contract. I am starting to come around about the whole Kawhi leaving situation because of that fact and there is no way that I can root for Golden State. You never know after a few years after all the smoke clears he will ne back and Pop will sign another 3 year deal and 3 peat with Kawhi, DJM, White, LW4 and Poeltl. In the mean time don't give up on DDR and Poeltl and whatever player we get with Toronto's 1st round pick. It was the 1st year for both players in the Spurs system. We will be better this coming year barring any major injuries. Peace and I'm out.

Another dumb cuck.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Another dumb cuck.

[RC_Drunkford]

I believe Tony Parker had a lot to do with Kawhi wanting to leave. Pop and Kawhi had an emotional moment after that 1st Raptors game in which we won. If Pop and Kawhi had an issue that wouldn't of happened. Could you see Pop being like that with Dennis Rodman after he wanted out of San Antonio? He wouldn't even do that Stephen Jackson. I believe Pop wanted Kawhi to be the bigger person and lead after what ever Parker did. I believe they let Parker leave not because of playing time but to show Kawhi that they were willing to get rid of the problem in order for him to stay. It's not that Kawhi quit on the team, he did not want to be around Tony. Look at what Tony did to Brent Barry. I was a TP fan up till 2008 when he seemed to become selfish because he won 2007 Finals MVP. It went to his head and he seemed to cost the team in the years to come because he wanted to be the man. He was mad that Danny was getting all the glory in 2013 Finals, called out the situation because he wanted to stop being double teamed driving to the basket so that he could get his points instead of welcoming the double team so that he can create for others so that he could put up great assist numbers but those are not the numbers he wanted. He wanted points and that's part of the reason the Spurs did not make another Finals appearance until Kawhi came along. If not for Tony still wanting to be the man, Kawhi would've been a better player at least 2 years ahead of schedule. It's still hard for me to root for Kawhi but we do not what exactly happened for him wanting to leave but we did see with our own eyes that him and Pop was okay with each other so stop blaming Pop unless you say he should've let Tony walk before signing him to that last contract. I am starting to come around about the whole Kawhi leaving situation because of that fact and there is no way that I can root for Golden State. You never know after a few years after all the smoke clears he will ne back and Pop will sign another 3 year deal and 3 peat with Kawhi, DJM, White, LW4 and Poeltl. In the mean time don't give up on DDR and Poeltl and whatever player we get with Toronto's 1st round pick. It was the 1st year for both players in the Spurs system. We will be better this coming year barring any major injuries. Peace and I'm out.

stop smoking crack

[urunobili]

I hope TOR wins and rings TBH. Over the dude at this stage. He was just another snake. If Toronto rings you guys think going to LA won’t happen?

[RC_Drunkford]

the Raptors. They change the whole narrative, he a real dude, he was misdiagnosed. He has to leave so people see the truth and we know it was all about going to LA. Let him go there. I don't care if we have to play against him, Pop better get mad and try to beat nephew although he'd probably lose every playoff series against him and then talk in the postgame how great of a person and player he is

[Clipper Nation]

I believe Tony Parker had a lot to do with Kawhi wanting to leave. Pop and Kawhi had an emotional moment after that 1st Raptors game in which we won. If Pop and Kawhi had an issue that wouldn't of happened. Could you see Pop being like that with Dennis Rodman after he wanted out of San Antonio? He wouldn't even do that Stephen Jackson. I believe Pop wanted Kawhi to be the bigger person and lead after what ever Parker did. I believe they let Parker leave not because of playing time but to show Kawhi that they were willing to get rid of the problem in order for him to stay. It's not that Kawhi quit on the team, he did not want to be around Tony. Look at what Tony did to Brent Barry. I was a TP fan up till 2008 when he seemed to become selfish because he won 2007 Finals MVP. It went to his head and he seemed to cost the team in the years to come because he wanted to be the man. He was mad that Danny was getting all the glory in 2013 Finals, called out the situation because he wanted to stop being double teamed driving to the basket so that he could get his points instead of welcoming the double team so that he can create for others so that he could put up great assist numbers but those are not the numbers he wanted. He wanted points and that's part of the reason the Spurs did not make another Finals appearance until Kawhi came along. If not for Tony still wanting to be the man, Kawhi would've been a better player at least 2 years ahead of schedule. It's still hard for me to root for Kawhi but we do not what exactly happened for him wanting to leave but we did see with our own eyes that him and Pop was okay with each other so stop blaming Pop unless you say he should've let Tony walk before signing him to that last contract. I am starting to come around about the whole Kawhi leaving situation because of that fact and there is no way that I can root for Golden State. You never know after a few years after all the smoke clears he will ne back and Pop will sign another 3 year deal and 3 peat with Kawhi, DJM, White, LW4 and Poeltl. In the mean time don't give up on DDR and Poeltl and whatever player we get with Toronto's 1st round pick. It was the 1st year for both players in the Spurs system. We will be better this coming year barring any major injuries. Peace and I'm out.

Huge, undeniable FACTS that Porker fluffers don't want to hear

[spursistan]

Whatever happens in the Finals this trade will go down as one of the most embarrassing episodes in the franchise history..

The fact that an irrelevant organization north of the border bended them in such humiliating fashion will forever register in Pop/RC resume..

[timtonymanu]

Spurs had like 20 years of excellence with Timmy. Bad luck was gonna hit us at some point.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kawhi carrying a rookie head coach to the NBA Finals while crater face can't win a series against a Nuggets side.

Duncan would have won 5 regardless of who was coach

[midnightpulp]

Whatever happens in the Finals this trade will go down as one of the most embarrassing episodes in the franchise history..

The fact that an irrelevant organization north of the border bended them in such humiliating fashion will forever register in Pop/RC resume..

We'd (as in Spurs fans) rather Kawhi win 10 rings in a row with the Raps than even get the Lakers to the playoffs. As long as we didn't trade him to the Lakers, all is good. Who really cares what he does with any other team. My only investment in this is really to see the helmet crew eat , the dumbest group of posters to ever exist on the site. And that's saying something when Lakers fans exist.

[spursistan]

We'd (as in Spurs fans) rather Kawhi win 10 rings in a row with the Raps than even get the Lakers to the playoffs. As long as we didn't trade him to the Lakers, all is good. Who really cares what he does with any other team. My only investment in this is really to see the helmet crew eat , the dumbest group of posters to ever exist on the site. And that's saying something when Lakers fans exist.

Still, it just sucks to see us join the ranks of dumb organizations. We got robbed in board daylight in a now historically infamous trade.

Could have dumped his ass on another team desperate for a star power for more or less equal return (Miami etc..) or could have forced him to suit up and rebuild his value without rewarding him with Finals trip and the chance to cement his narrative of what happened in '17-'18..

Such a gut punch to this franchise. I said it elsewhere: Yes, we have won 5 rings but we've suffered too many heartbreaks along the way. The last of which--this whole Kawhi saga-- caps it off in a weird and cruel denouement.

I thought we were gonna die off peacefully, but everything since Zaza has been a grim spiral..

[therealtruth]

I called it when the trade was made. They would at least make the Finals. I think they have a great shot at beating the Warriors especially without Durant. Wingstop has stopped Curry/Thompson before and the Raptors are big enough to take advantage of the Warriors lack of size.

[dbreiden83080]

The spurs are in perfectly fine shape. We always draft incredibly well. We will do so again this season. We had a perfectly good year considering everything that happened. The organization to me is still the best in the NBA. So over the next few years things will be fine.

[midnightpulp]

Still, it just sucks to see us join the ranks of dumb organizations. We got robbed in board daylight in a now historically infamous trade.

Could have dumped his ass on another team desperate for a star power for more or less equal return (Miami etc..) or could have forced him to suit up and rebuild his value without rewarding him with Finals trip and the chance to cement his narrative of what happened in '17-'18..

Such a gut punch to this franchise. I said it elsewhere: Yes, we have won 5 rings but we've suffered too many heartbreaks along the way. The last of which--this whole Kawhi saga-- caps it off in a weird and cruel denouement.

I thought we were gonna die off peacefully, but everything since Zaza has been a grim spiral..

I didn't really follow the drama that closely, but we're there any offers on the table that were better than Toronto's? Kawhi made it clear that LA was his intention, so teams were never going to give the Spurs equal trade value. And yeah, DeRozan isn't any consolation prize since he's, well, DeMar DeRozan .

Where I think the Spurs messed up is how they handled the media side of the situation. Pop, Parker, and Manu should've shut the up and not taken jabs at his "injury" or "his people." Yeah, the writing was on the wall well before that, and only helmet crew dip s believe those comments played any role in Kawhi's leaving. Pop and co. made those comments out of spite since it was obvious Kawhi was leaving, but in doing so, gave Kawhi and his camp an "out" that they could spin to look like the good guys in the matter. That was the great up of the organization in this regard.

[Capt Bringdown]

In this case, a low point is likely also a turning point. Spurs may not see another player of Leonard's caliber wear the Silver and Black for years, maybe decades to come.

[RC_Drunkford]

Where I think the Spurs messed up is how they handled the media side of the situation. Pop, Parker, and Manu should've shut the up and not taken jabs at his "injury" or "his people." Yeah, the writing was on the wall well before that, and only helmet crew dip s believe those comments played any role in Kawhi's leaving. Pop and co. made those comments out of spite since it was obvious Kawhi was leaving, but in doing so, gave Kawhi and his camp an "out" that they could spin to look like the good guys in the matter. That was the great up of the organization in this regard.

exactly

[Down Under]

I didn't really follow the drama that closely, but we're there any offers on the table that were better than Toronto's? Kawhi made it clear that LA was his intention, so teams were never going to give the Spurs equal trade value. And yeah, DeRozan isn't any consolation prize since he's, well, DeMar DeRozan .

Where I think the Spurs messed up is how they handled the media side of the situation. Pop, Parker, and Manu should've shut the up and not taken jabs at his "injury" or "his people." Yeah, the writing was on the wall well before that, and only helmet crew dip s believe those comments played any role in Kawhi's leaving. Pop and co. made those comments out of spite since it was obvious Kawhi was leaving, but in doing so, gave Kawhi and his camp an "out" that they could spin to look like the good guys in the matter. That was the great up of the organization in this regard.

The speculation wouldn't have stopped though IMO, not in today's age.

[Manong Ginobili]

Where I think the Spurs messed up is how they handled the media side of the situation. Pop, Parker, and Manu should've shut the up and not taken jabs at his "injury" or "his people." Yeah, the writing was on the wall well before that, and only helmet crew dip s believe those comments played any role in Kawhi's leaving. Pop and co. made those comments out of spite since it was obvious Kawhi was leaving, but in doing so, gave Kawhi and his camp an "out" that they could spin to look like the good guys in the matter. That was the great up of the organization in this regard.

THIS

The coach that preached about never giving the opposing team any bulletin board material was throwing shade at his star player during an interview.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The exit door is right in front of y'all! We get it, all your favorite players are gone and you hate PAFTO, so GTFO....not too late to get on the warrior bandwagon.

Stupid type of post. It's not like there are many options (outside of football season: football will always be great until they completely pussify the rule system) for entertainment, especially this time of year. It's pretty much dead until September.

[tholdren]

I believe Tony Parker had a lot to do with Kawhi wanting to leave. Pop and Kawhi had an emotional moment after that 1st Raptors game in which we won. If Pop and Kawhi had an issue that wouldn't of happened. Could you see Pop being like that with Dennis Rodman after he wanted out of San Antonio? He wouldn't even do that Stephen Jackson. I believe Pop wanted Kawhi to be the bigger person and lead after what ever Parker did. I believe they let Parker leave not because of playing time but to show Kawhi that they were willing to get rid of the problem in order for him to stay. It's not that Kawhi quit on the team, he did not want to be around Tony. Look at what Tony did to Brent Barry. I was a TP fan up till 2008 when he seemed to become selfish because he won 2007 Finals MVP. It went to his head and he seemed to cost the team in the years to come because he wanted to be the man. He was mad that Danny was getting all the glory in 2013 Finals, called out the situation because he wanted to stop being double teamed driving to the basket so that he could get his points instead of welcoming the double team so that he can create for others so that he could put up great assist numbers but those are not the numbers he wanted. He wanted points and that's part of the reason the Spurs did not make another Finals appearance until Kawhi came along. If not for Tony still wanting to be the man, Kawhi would've been a better player at least 2 years ahead of schedule. It's still hard for me to root for Kawhi but we do not what exactly happened for him wanting to leave but we did see with our own eyes that him and Pop was okay with each other so stop blaming Pop unless you say he should've let Tony walk before signing him to that last contract. I am starting to come around about the whole Kawhi leaving situation because of that fact and there is no way that I can root for Golden State. You never know after a few years after all the smoke clears he will ne back and Pop will sign another 3 year deal and 3 peat with Kawhi, DJM, White, LW4 and Poeltl. In the mean time don't give up on DDR and Poeltl and whatever player we get with Toronto's 1st round pick. It was the 1st year for both players in the Spurs system. We will be better this coming year barring any major injuries. Peace and I'm out.

Lol. Did not read