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    He will definitely go to LA this summer regardless of whether or not the Raptors win the championship. The Spurs however were stupid by not milking him during his final year. You guys could have gotten one last championship out of him and you threw that away. You never throw away opportunities to win les in this league.
    Do you not remember what actually happened? He sat out the entire season. Was hiding from doctors. Hid from teammates. Refused to sit on the bench. He was not going to simply turn that around. He was going to cry and moan like a little girl the entire off-season until he was traded. And if he was not traded he was going to fake another injury.

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    Do you not remember what actually happened? He sat out the entire season. Was hiding from doctors. Hid from teammates. Refused to sit on the bench. He was not going to simply turn that around. He was going to cry and moan like a little girl the entire off-season until he was traded. And if he was not traded he was going to fake another injury.
    Honestly do you really think he could get away with sitting out two full seasons? That would be too risky and would hurt his value. As much as I hate the Pelicans for refusing to trade Davis to the Lakers I have to respect them because they are not letting Davis control them. Look at all the offers they are still going to get for Davis despite the antics he pulled this year. Pop and the Spurs organization was too weak and gave in when they should have fought him.

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    He will definitely go to LA this summer regardless of whether or not the Raptors win the championship. The Spurs however were stupid by not milking him during his final year. You guys could have gotten one last championship out of him and you threw that away. You never throw away opportunities to win les in this league.
    Also you have to get something back for somebody you know is absolutely leaving. If the Spurs tried to play it out, and he left anyway as a free agent, you would be the first one here screaming and yelling that the organization was incredibly stupid for not dealing him one year prior and getting something back in return. You can’t have it both ways.

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    Honestly do you really think he could get away with sitting out two full seasons? That would be too risky and would hurt his value. As much as I hate the Pelicans for refusing to trade Davis to the Lakers I have to respect them because they are not letting Davis control them. Look at all the offers they are still going to get for Davis despite the antics he pulled this year. Pop and the Spurs organization was too weak and gave in when they should have fought him.
    What are the odds Anthony Davis at this point changes his mind? They have to trade him eventually right? They have to get something. The trade value is greatly diminished because of his demands to go to one place. But eventually they have to pull the trigger on something.

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    Also you have to get something back for somebody you know is absolutely leaving. If the Spurs tried to play it out, and he left anyway as a free agent, you would be the first one here screaming and yelling that the organization was incredibly stupid for not dealing him one year prior and getting something back in return. You can’t have it both ways.
    Actually I would have respected the Spurs for not giving in. Spurs are in a much better position even if he leaves you guys for nothing. You guys are now stuck with an overpaid Derozan, and an average at best center in Poetl. Derozan isn't even young so you can't build a team around him. Let's be honest was this season worth it to see the Spurs lose in the first round and then to see Kawhi win a championship? You can't be enjoying that.

    I remember how angry I was when Shaq won a le in '06 despite the Lakers making the playoffs and pushing the Suns to 7 in the first round. It wasn't a fun season. So I know what Spur fans are going through right now.

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    Actually I would have respected the Spurs for not giving in. Spurs are in a much better position even if he leaves you guys for nothing. You guys are now stuck with an overpaid Derozan, and an average at best center in Poetl. Derozan isn't even young so you can't build a team around him. Let's be honest was this season worth it to see the Spurs lose in the first round and then to see Kawhi win a championship? You can't be enjoying that.

    I remember how angry I was when Shaq won a le in '06 despite the Lakers making the playoffs and pushing the Suns to 7 in the first round. It wasn't a fun season. So I know what Spur fans are going through right now.
    Considering the spurs have a history of always drafting extremely well, I think they are sitting in a very good position right now. They already had somebody step up this season and play way above expectations who they drafted. So they got something back of value who is overpaid for now. OK. But they are going to draft more players this year and bring them in on small contracts. This to me is still the best organization in sports. They have proven that over and over. They know exactly what they are doing. Small-market teams don’t just win five NBA championships. Tim Duncan as great as he was had an amazing organization consistently drafting well, and putting the right pieces around Him.. Leonard was somebody the spurs believed in. Nobody else really did.. Nobody really even knew who the he was. And he helped win another championship very late in the career of Duncan. The spurs will be in the mix again next season in the Western Conference. And I fully expect whoever they draft is going to be a very good player in the NBA.

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    Considering the spurs have a history of always drafting extremely well, I think they are sitting in a very good position right now. They already had somebody step up this season and play way above expectations who they drafted. So they got something back of value who is overpaid for now. OK. But they are going to draft more players this year and bring them in on small contracts. This to me is still the best organization in sports. They have proven that over and over. They know exactly what they are doing. Small-market teams don’t just win five NBA championships. Tim Duncan as great as he was had an amazing organization consistently drafting well, and putting the right pieces around Him.. The spurs will be in the mix again next season in the Western Conference. And I fully expect whoever they draft is going to be a very good player in the NBA.
    So let's say the Spurs are really good at drafting then wouldn't they have been better off with a lottery pick this year which would have resulted had Kawhi sat out another year? They would have gotten a lottery pick and wouldn't had to deal with seeing Kawhi win a championship at their expense. Sounds like a win win to me for the organization and fan morale.

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    So let's say the Spurs are really good at drafting then wouldn't they have been better off with a lottery pick this year which would have resulted had Kawhi sat out another year? They would have gotten a lottery pick and wouldn't had to deal with seeing Kawhi win a championship at their expense. Sounds like a win win to me for the organization and fan morale.
    When you consistently make the playoffs for 22 straight seasons obviously you would like to get something back of value now. Get somebody back that is a win now player. They are not in total rebuilding mode. Honestly they had a pretty good season overall. You can rebuild to an extent, while still playing at a reasonably high-level. The best organizations do that. And they are one of them.

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    Also you have to get something back for somebody you know is absolutely leaving. If the Spurs tried to play it out, and he left anyway as a free agent, you would be the first one here screaming and yelling that the organization was incredibly stupid for not dealing him one year prior and getting something back in return. You can’t have it both ways.
    why did the spurs went and kowtow lma cause he wasnt happy about touches and possibility of wanting out? yet they extended him

    then u have the 2 corpses of turnoboli and enrique who were on their way out anyway, shouldve just kept kawhi for one more season and see how it goes... then again with management we all know they will try to bring them vets back for no apparent reason

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    When you consistently make the playoffs for 22 straight seasons obviously you would like to get something back of value now. Get somebody back that is a win now player. They are not in total rebuilding mode. Honestly they had a pretty good season overall. You can rebuild to an extent, while still playing at a reasonably high-level. The best organizations do that. And they are one of them.
    Going to the playoffs doesn't mean when at best your are going to always be a 6-8 seed. I dealt with that during the '04-'07 years with the Lakers. The Lakers were never going to win until they lucked out with Gasol. The Spurs are going to be in that situation but I don't see a Gasol like trade happening for you guys. You pretty much traded Kawhi for years of being a medicore first round team. Not a good trade off to me.

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    Going to the playoffs doesn't mean when at best your are going to always be a 6-8 seed. I dealt with that during the '04-'07 years with the Lakers. The Lakers were never going to win until they lucked out with Gasol. The Spurs are going to be in that situation but I don't see a Gasol like trade happening for you guys. You pretty much traded Kawhi for years of being a medicore first round team. Not a good trade off to me.
    Well considering that Anthony Davis who some people are still ting themselves over in terms of getting on their team, never makes the playoffs I would say making the playoffs is still an achievement.. And when a top-five player es out on you one season prior. Making the playoffs and going seven games in the first round. Pretty good.

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    why did the spurs went and kowtow lma cause he wasnt happy about touches and possibility of wanting out? yet they extended him

    then u have the 2 corpses of turnoboli and enrique who were on their way out anyway, shouldve just kept kawhi for one more season and see how it goes... then again with management we all know they will try to bring them vets back for no apparent reason
    Because the spurs as they proved this season, and last season are still intelligent enough to hang onto win now players while drafting incredibly well. We have a potential all star coming back from injury. We developed another potential all star who replaced him. You get it?

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    Well, at least we didn't lose anything in Danny Green. He still sucks

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    Well, at least we didn't lose anything in Danny Green. He still sucks
    ing awful holy God. How the is he still starting? You could literally leave him wide open 10 times and he probably misses all 10 shots.

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    Well considering that Anthony Davis who some people are still ting themselves over in terms of getting on their team, never makes the playoffs I would say making the playoffs is still an achievement.. And when a top-five player es out on you one season prior. Making the playoffs and going seven games in the first round. Pretty good.
    So trading arguably the best player for a first round exit was a win win while Kawhi wins a le in Toronto. That's horrible trade off. Again you guys would have looked better by just letting him walk while getting nothing.

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    So trading arguably the best player for a first round exit was a win win while Kawhi wins a le in Toronto. That's horrible trade off. Again you guys would have looked better by just letting him walk while getting nothing.
    Dude he’s not going to win jack . This series is going to be a complete domination for the Warriors. That dynasty is not going anywhere. How the is Toronto supposed to match up with them? Leonard can dominate but why would that matter? They have way too many weapons. Kevin can sit the entire series and they are still going to walk to victory. Then Leonard will leave in free agency. Toronto will be left with nothing.

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    So trading arguably the best player for a first round exit was a win win while Kawhi wins a le in Toronto. That's horrible trade off. Again you guys would have looked better by just letting him walk while getting nothing.
    Goddamn. I can’t believe I’m agreeing with a ing laker fan.

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    Goddamn. I can’t believe I’m agreeing with a ing laker fan.
    You actually believe the raptors are going to beat the Warriors? That weed you’re smoking. Please save me some.

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    Dude he’s not going to win jack . This series is going to be a complete domination for the Warriors. That dynasty is not going anywhere. How the is Toronto supposed to match up with them? Leonard can dominate but why would that matter? They have way too many weapons. Kevin can sit the entire series and they are still going to walk to victory. Then Leonard will leave in free agency. Toronto will be left with nothing.
    Durant's injury is a mystery. I have heard reports that at best he won't be back until game 4. In that scenario I have the Raptors winning the series in 6. Also there is no way the Warriors can beat the Raptors without Durant. All the Raptors would have to do is have Kawhi lock down Klay and the series is over. Curry could score 50 every game and they still lose if Klay is locked up.

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    Durant's injury is a mystery. I have heard reports that at best he won't be back until game 4. In that scenario I have the Raptors winning the series in 6. Also there is no way the Warriors can beat the Raptors without Durant. All the Raptors would have to do is have Kawhi lock down Klay and the series is over. Curry could score 50 every game and they still lose if Klay is locked up.
    The ball movement, the chemistry, the championship experience, they’re going to walk to victory. It’s not going to be close. Leonard is the only great player on that team. The rest of them will play like dog in the finals. You got a bunch of chokers on that ing squad.

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    You actually believe the raptors are going to beat the Warriors? That weed you’re smoking. Please save me some.
    No. But I don’t believe trading Kawhi for Depression was the right thing to do.

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    Going to the playoffs doesn't mean when at best your are going to always be a 6-8 seed. I dealt with that during the '04-'07 years with the Lakers. The Lakers were never going to win until they lucked out with Gasol. The Spurs are going to be in that situation but I don't see a Gasol like trade happening for you guys. You pretty much traded Kawhi for years of being a medicore first round team. Not a good trade off to me.
    lol lakerfan still bowing up for no reason whatsoever

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    The ball movement, the chemistry, the championship experience, they’re going to walk to victory. It’s not going to be close. Leonard is the only great player on that team. The rest of them will play like dog in the finals. You got a bunch of chokers on that ing squad.
    Kawhi,Siakam,Lowry>Klay,Dray,Curry. The Raptors big 3 or better than the Warriors big 3. If you add Durant then the advantage goes back to the Warriors.

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    Kawhi,Siakam,Lowry>Klay,Dray,Curry. The Raptors big 3 or better than the Warriors big 3. If you add Durant then the advantage goes back to the Warriors.
    Giannis Did not have one signature dominant performance in the entire series. Nobody else for The Bucks was dominant in the series. They were up 2-0. They easily could have won game five. They should have won tonight. They had a 14 point lead in the second half. Golden State is going to smash Toronto..

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    No. But I don’t believe trading Kawhi for Depression was the right thing to do.
    It was basically that or nothing. Anybody blaming the Spurs organization is simply kidding themselves. The position they were in was an impossible position. This asshole and his uncle completely derailed his value. Anyone you were negotiating with was not offering anything significant. Why would they? He sat out an entire season pretending he was injured. But that is not a negotiating position the spurs can take. You can’t tell people he was only pretending. The suitors take it serious. And they offer you junk in return.

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