Uncle Dennis Finally Talks! “They didn’t believe Kawhi couldn’t play and that caused a lack of trust"

[YGWHI]

So in his time with the Spurs and with how he did what he did, you think he was a leader? You are so dense that you couldn’t see how someone looking at how Kawhi acted for 7 years could say that?

Just because he may have changed with TOR does not invalidate Pop. Use your damn brain for once man.

You can use yours too.

Do you think that Kawhi's offensive game is the same than in 2012?? He improved.

Why one of the best coaches in the NBA history couldn't see that Kawhi would become into this type of leader??

How he couldn't think that Kawhi would improve his leadership as well as his game??

If I think he was a leader...Since the team had older vocal leaders, he led by example. He was a hard worker in practices and the best player on the court in every game.

[JeffDuncan]

You know what would be even better is if the spurs sued for slander.

Oh geez, guy, don't start talking slander. Everybody who posts to ST would be served with a subpoena. Lol

[south side spur]

I guarantee you most of these Kawhite Knights are millennials. All the dumb things they do are a direct result of their environment and all of their accomplishments are only attributable to themselves.

[DPG21920]

You can use yours too.

Do you think that Kawhi's offensive game is the same than in 2012?? He improved.

Why one of the best coaches in the NBA history couldn't see that Kawhi would become into this type of leader??

How he couldn't think that Kawhi would improve his leadership as well as his game??

If I think he was a leader...Since the team had older vocal leaders, he led by example. He was a hard worker in practices and the best player on the court in every game.

That is so stupid. Look at what he did . Look at how he did it. Why couldn’t Pop see the good in Kawhi after that? Hmmm. Shocking. You know what, scoreboard you. Genius level powers of deduction.

[DPG21920]

Also, again, you do nothing but post about Kawhi. For a supposed Spurs fan, where is that same level of dedication and energy to posting about the Spurs on a Spurs board?

[Dancelot]

Oh geez, guy, don't start talking slander. Everybody who posts to ST would be served with a subpoena. Lol

[YGWHI]

I guarantee you most of these Kawhite Knights are millennials. All the dumb things they do are a direct result of their environment and all of their accomplishments are only attributable to themselves.

"But but our franchise never made a mistake...They are so perfect"

They lost the best player in 2019 playoffs and top 3 overall in this league.

The best organization and the best coach couldn't see that a young quiet player could become a leader in next years...

[YGWHI]

That is so stupid. Look at what he did . Look at how he did it. Why couldn’t Pop see the good in Kawhi after that? Hmmm. Shocking. You know what, scoreboard you. Genius level powers of deduction.

The issue was the Spurs couldn't see it before all drama happened...That's what "Dejonte" post said. According to him they didn't offer him the supermax because he wasn't ready to be a leader. Then they offered it when it was too late.

Also, again, you do nothing but post about Kawhi. For a supposed Spurs fan, where is that same level of dedication and energy to posting about the Spurs on a Spurs board?

I've posted enough about this team in the regular season and playoffs. I was one of the few fans here who said they would make playoffs and pass 1st round.

I was wrong but I still supported them until last minute of game 7.

Now, we're on offseason and post about Kawhi.

[JeffDuncan]

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The best organization and the best coach couldn't see that a young quiet player could become a leader in next years...

No, hold the phone. Everybody go back and look at what Coach Pop actually said.

Pop said, of Kawhi's leadership, "that may come as he progresses." Pop never ruled out Leonard being a leader. Any ideas about that are wrong.

[DPG21920]

No, hold the phone. Everybody go back and look at what Coach Pop actually said.

Pop said, of Kawhi's leadership, "that may come as he progresses." Pop never ruled out Leonard being a leader. Any ideas about that are wrong.

Beyond that, the argument he’s making is so ridiculous (which he knows) that it goes beyond even what Pop actually said. The logic of what he’s posting is just so bad, that you don’t even need to address the technicalities

[south side spur]

"But but our franchise never made a mistake...They are so perfect"

They lost the best player in 2019 playoffs and top 3 overall in this league.

The best organization and the best coach couldn't see that a young quiet player could become a leader in next years...

Bro I currently hate basketball right now because my Spurs are taking a hit and a player who I was grateful for and wanted to lead the Spurs to more les is doing so with another team. Don’t even try your bull narrative with me. I’m only going to feel somewhat better on draft night. I can’t watch ESPN or NBAtv or listen to sports radio.

I’ll say it right now. I’d feel better if Kawhi was still a Spur and Pop was no longer coaching. That’s just how I feel yeah Kawhi is a great player no one is disputing that.

But don’t try and paint him like he’s without faults. Parker gets all types of grief on here for Claxton closing in ‘03 but Kawhi gets a pass for ‘13 and his choke at the line? He gets a pass for getting cucked in ‘15 AND getting outclassed in ‘16?

He gets a pass for shutting it down with a ing sprained ankle in ‘17?

And when Pop says he wasn’t a leader y’all Kawhite Knights totally ignore how he sat back and allowed Hall of Famers to answer questions specifically about him for 3/4 of the season? A leader isn’t just good or great they bring that good or greatness out of their teammates...like he’s doing now. What he didn’t do with the Spurs.

If KD is going to take heat about being hypersensitive when it comes to media criticism how can Kawhi not take heat for being hypersensitive to Hall of Famers critiques? Come on bro

[Slippy]

You dont have to look too far to see where the offending started . Dennis the menace states team doctors said he could play through it when he was actually in pain. Distrust between the parties would of built from there. Remember tony coming out and speaking on behalf of the doctors . Pretty sure the docs have been there long term.

What gets lost is how Kawhi basicslly screwed the franchise that built him up and went along with his demands of a trade after sitting out most of the season. He gave absolutely nothing back to the team and killed his trade value just to hammer it home. He feels disrespected. Seems over the top to me but some of you suckers and media will simply get swept on how good he performing now.

[YGWHI]

No, hold the phone. Everybody go back and look at what Coach Pop actually said.

Pop said, of Kawhi's leadership, "that may come as he progresses." Pop never ruled out Leonard being a leader. Any ideas about that are wrong.

"Kawhi was a great player, but he wasn't a leader or anything" Or anything...Niceeee.

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[YGWHI]

A leader isn’t just good or great they bring that good or greatness out of their teammates...like he’s doing now. What he didn’t do with the Spurs.

I would wonder why he "supposedly" changed. Why he "wasn't a leader or anything" on the Spurs and now he's "suddenly" a leader on other team?

How a player changed that much in just a few months? Or he was always the same guy but people didn't want to recognize his leadership way just because he left the team?

[DMC]

Some say the Spurs are too far up their own asses to see this kind of coming. They are entrenched in the legacy of The Big Three and don't necessarily have the wherewithal to move forward just yet. Pop could be the reason. It's difficult to say.

Pop seems like a rather rational person however it's definitely going to be his way and when he's right he's really right and when he's wrong he's really wrong. Either way you're going to see the results of his decisions and not so much the decisions of people that he touts to media as the faces of the franchise.

For some reason though, Kawhi's injury and how it was handled it's so different than the injuries of Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker or Tim Duncan. I don't understand what the differences are there. Do they have different team doctors now? Was the push to move Kawhi back onto the floor too soon? That doesn't make any sense to investment minded individual to risk your assets that way and that's not the way the Spurs operate in my opinion.

I don't believe we've seen the last of this injury thing from him by the way. There's no reason he can't play that card at any given time and take as much time as he wants while getting paid to hang out another city.

[DMC]

But let's not kid ourselves here, the only reason Toronto is in the Finals is because LeBron James is in the West. Had LeBron James moved to the West 2 years ago it's quite possible Toronto makes a Finals last year. Who knows? They lost to the Cavaliers.

[JeffDuncan]

"Kawhi was a great player, but he wasn't a leader or anything" Or anything...Niceeee.

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C'mon, be honest enough to post the entire quote. You obviously forgot what Pop said, or never knew it in the first place.

[hooperflash]

I really was 100% all for rooting for Kawhi , but this Uncle Dennis character really makes me want a Warriors 3 peat . Yikes

[RC_Drunkford]

A leader doesn't hide. Spurs couldn't even reach Kawhi when he went to China to send their security, etc. People say it was miscommunication, but it was Kawhi who wasn't reachable. Spurs always tried to communicate

[TimmyBuckets]

Nephew wants out, fakes an injury to use as an excuse to leave, throws shade, through his uncle, at the organization that made him what he is. Case closed.

PS: leader lol

[exstatic]

Nephew is not going to be "right" physically in the future on a consistent basis. This playoff run has greatly worn him down. If he has another long series with Golden State he might need a year off again to recover.

. People are COMPLETELY ignoring the word degenerative in his condition. His quad will never be any better than it is this very second. It will only break down from here.

[Murray2k]

Let's not kid ourselves, Kawhi will be elite for 3-4 years more at least.. If you are expecting his level to fall off you are only setting yourselves up for disappointment.

[bic50]

Cultists are mad

[JeffDuncan]

A leader doesn't hide. Spurs couldn't even reach Kawhi when he went to China to send their security, etc. People say it was miscommunication, but it was Kawhi who wasn't reachable. Spurs always tried to communicate

Good heavens, fellow, let's keep the lying down to a dull roar, ok?

https://www.nba.com/article/2017/08/...ademy-zhejiang

Kawhi Leonard to make first-ever visit to China

Official release

Aug 16, 2017 12:34 PM ET

BEIJING -- NBA China today announced that NBA Champion and two-time NBA All-Star Kawhi Leonard of the San Antonio Spurs will visit China from Aug. 18 – 24 to support the growth of basketball in the country and coach top youth talent from the region at The NBA Academy Zhejiang. This will be Leonard’s first trip to China.

Leonard, a two-time NBA All-Star and the 2014 Bill Russell NBA Finals Most Valuable Player, will travel to Beijing to host a basketball clinic for select migrant school students as part of NBA’s celebration of its 30-year partnership with CCTV. He will also meet fans at NBA 5v5, the league’s five-on-five tournament for elite players in China, and visit Tencent’s broadcast studio in Beijing.

In addition, Leonard will work with the NBA’s Player Development department and participate in the Career Crossover program. Leonard will spend time in the NBA Beijing Office to shadow NBA China CEO David Shoemaker, attend various business meetings with NBA China executives and conduct a chalk talk with NBA staff.

Leonard will then visit The NBA Academy Zhejiang in Zhuji, becoming the first NBA player to visit an NBA Academy in China. He will coach the academy players through a series of basketball drills. Leonard will wrap up his trip by making a special appearance at the NBA Playzone in Shanghai, an NBA-themed family entertainment destination for kids and their families.
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See the link for the entire article.

And if you're going to post lies to try to advance your case, at least try to make them a little less flaming, howling stupid, ok?

[monty4329]

That said, I know some of the ESPN decision makers are now weighing whether to divulge more. With the Raptors in the Finals, they know it'd be a huge story that could be worth the blowback. I'd say there's a 50/50 chance they'll publish it in the next week.

So they kept it under wraps for months waiting for it to be ratingworthy enough. Then TOR got past Philly only by a stroke of luck and they didn't publish it, got 2-down against MIL and still didn't publish it...?

It is totally unexplainable how they keep risking Kawhi getting ousted from POs, or injured, basically making those "secret" news totally irrelevant. I highly doubt there's anything newsworthy ESPN is keeping mum, frankly.