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    If they did, they weren't paying attention because that's something they should have known beforehand.

    Deep down, I don't think they're thrilled with him (between what you mention and his abandoning the 3; though they enabled it), but I think their being obsessed with upholding their image would supersede what's best for the franchise in the end.

    There's also the possible (probable?) trickle down effect. Trade him for a rookie and are Aldridge and Gay still committed? That shouldn't matter, but we know making the playoffs at all costs is priority number one.
    I'm not sure LMA cares much about Dumbmar. I think he knows that White is the guy who knows how to feed the big dog. White makes LMA a better player. He knows it.

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    What about Pop saying this is a new team with a new culture... Etc. What about him saying they plan to bring back the same core ? I am pessimistic in that I don't think Pop is looking to deal him for a youngin.
    What Pop said at the end of the Spurs' season is fodder for the press. At that point he hadn't had any time to sit down with the rest of the staff and do any serious evaluating. On the other hand, I agree that conservative Pop is more likely to hang on to Dumbmar than trade him, unless Dumbmar expresses a desire to be traded, which wouldn't surprise me. That doesn't change the fact that Dumbmar's antics have to rankle Pop. How much? We may find out.

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    What about Pop saying this is a new team with a new culture... Etc. What about him saying they plan to bring back the same core ? I am pessimistic in that I don't think Pop is looking to deal him for a youngin.
    You don't pass up a trade like this because of a quote in an article. I think he likes DD, but I wouldn't categorize him as his favorite player, and he HAS traded his favorite player before. Besides, he didn't say they're bringing back the roster in it's entirety. The expression 'their core' is certainly open to interpretation.

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    A trade with the Lakers, is not likely to happen. Reason being a #4 pick is a rebuild, which Popoivich does not want. I think DeRozan will be here next year, and I am sure afterwards it will be different. He is not worth 30 million, not even $18 million. I dont think many will feel he is worth much since he still does not work on his game like true superstars do,; centers are shooting threes (Lopez, Gasol) yet DeRozan settles for mid range shots. Lebron needed shooters, so why give away the #4 pick for DeRozan. Lakers can get more for that pick.

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    A trade with the Lakers, is not likely to happen. Reason being a #4 pick is a rebuild, which Popoivich does not want. I think DeRozan will be here next year, and I am sure afterwards it will be different. He is not worth 30 million, not even $18 million. I dont think many will feel he is worth much since he still does not work on his game like true superstars do,; centers are shooting threes (Lopez, Gasol) yet DeRozan settles for mid range shots. Lebron needed shooters, so why give away the #4 pick for DeRozan. Lakers can get more for that pick.
    Its difficult to gain a 20 point nba player with a top 3 pick...and in this weak draft is very very difficult to take it with a 4th pick. considering LBJ needs help soon, that DDR has had one of his best season last season in the western conference just after changing team, that DDR is from LA and that has shown he's improving at passing the ball, I don't see that like a bad trade for the lakers...with two good game creators and ball handlers, both extremely reliable regarding their production, they can the add (via trade or free agency) the necessary shooters and defenders...
    obviously a plan b in case the big market goals of the lakers don't materialize...

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    A trade with the Lakers, is not likely to happen. Reason being a #4 pick is a rebuild, which Popoivich does not want. I think DeRozan will be here next year, and I am sure afterwards it will be different. He is not worth 30 million, not even $18 million. I dont think many will feel he is worth much since he still does not work on his game like true superstars do,; centers are shooting threes (Lopez, Gasol) yet DeRozan settles for mid range shots. Lebron needed shooters, so why give away the #4 pick for DeRozan. Lakers can get more for that pick.
    I think Beal is a much more likely target for them but, trading DDR for #4 isn't a rebuild when you still have LMA, Mills, Forbes, Murray, and White on the team. It is a restructure of sorts but unless we are trading LMA too and the other vets then it's not a real rebuild.

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    They care more about DeRozan being happy than winning.
    Fixed it for you

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    A trade with the Lakers, is not likely to happen. Reason being a #4 pick is a rebuild, which Popoivich does not want. I think DeRozan will be here next year, and I am sure afterwards it will be different. He is not worth 30 million, not even $18 million. I dont think many will feel he is worth much since he still does not work on his game like true superstars do,; centers are shooting threes (Lopez, Gasol) yet DeRozan settles for mid range shots. Lebron needed shooters, so why give away the #4 pick for DeRozan. Lakers can get more for that pick.
    Getting the #4 pick without gutting your team and tanking is NOT a rebuild. They may feel that their guards are advancing quick enough that they can roll with White/DJ instead of DD.

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    I think Beal is a much more likely target for them but, trading DDR for #4 isn't a rebuild when you still have LMA, Mills, Forbes, Murray, and White on the team. It is a restructure of sorts but unless we are trading LMA too and the other vets then it's not a real rebuild.
    I think a lot of the Beal chatter was thinking he would be eligible for the SuperMax because he would make All NBA. He didn't so the Wiz should have no problem with paying him.

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    They care more about DeRozan being happy - meaning making him a core piece - than improving the team.

    Too bad they didn't take the same approach with the man who just led the Craptors to the Finals on a gimpy leg.
    Shut up gott, you're not even a Spurs fan and your troll game sucks major ass.

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    Shut up gott, you're not even a Spurs fan and your troll game sucks major ass.
    Truth hurts, huh?

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    Would Beal even sign with them? Wizards are screwed for like another 5 years with that Wall contract. I would rather play with LeBron and live in LA than play on a ty Wizards team and live in crappy DC. Funny enough, if Beal were to demand a trade then this time it would actually work in LA’s favor. They have a useless high pick, in another conference and can offer a young prospect to Washington.

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    Would Beal even sign with them? Wizards are screwed for like another 5 years with that Wall contract. I would rather play with LeBron and live in LA than play on a ty Wizards team and live in crappy DC. Funny enough, if Beal were to demand a trade then this time it would actually work in LA’s favor. They have a useless high pick, in another conference and can offer a young prospect to Washington.
    Wiz can't do anykind of rebuild with Wall on the roster, and they failed to basically give him away last year. They might as well roll with what they have.

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    Lakers are in win now mode unless lebron demands a trade elsewhere. Derozan who is a 21/6/6 guy fits the win now mode rather than a #4 pick . There aren't many dudes in the league who can give you those numbers. I'm actually intrigued to see how him and lebron would work together. Could be pretty damn good imho.

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    Lakers are in win now mode unless lebron demands a trade elsewhere. Derozan who is a 21/6/6 guy fits the win now mode rather than a #4 pick . There aren't many dudes in the league who can give you those numbers. I'm actually intrigued to see how him and lebron would work together. Could be pretty damn good imho.
    no team wants the Derozan contract, and especially the Derozan's game style.

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    Wiz can't do anykind of rebuild with Wall on the roster, and they failed to basically give him away last year. They might as well roll with what they have.
    Yeah, Wiz are stuck. They kinda need Beal unless they think can sell the fanbase on 4+9 (their pick)+ one of the Lakers young guys like Lonzo/Kuzma.

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    Lakers are in win now mode unless lebron demands a trade elsewhere. Derozan who is a 21/6/6 guy fits the win now mode rather than a #4 pick . There aren't many dudes in the league who can give you those numbers. I'm actually intrigued to see how him and lebron would work together. Could be pretty damn good imho.
    In a world where Kawhi (Clippers), Butler (Sixers), AD (staying at NOLA until Feb.), KD+Irving (New York), Middleton (Bucks) all pass on the Lakers, they’d be lucky to land one of DDR/Beal/Harris and one of Cousins/Hortford

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    Truth hurts, huh?
    No, just sick of gots like you spamming this site. You bring nothing but ty takes and low IQ.

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    Could spurs flip DDR +19 for Beal ? Something like DDR and Mills + 29 for Beal and Mahini? We take on Mahini with 1 extra year so the can unload more salary?

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    Could spurs flip DDR +19 for Beal ? Something like DDR and Mills + 29 for Beal and Mahini? We take on Mahini with 1 extra year so the can unload more salary?
    I’d love that, but don’t think it moves the needle for WAS. Might as well just stay with Beal who I believe is cost controlled one more year than DDR.

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    Wiz can't do anykind of rebuild with Wall on the roster, and they failed to basically give him away last year. They might as well roll with what they have.
    But it seems like they are trying to rebuild. I agree tho they are ed as long as Wall is on their team. But they got rid of Porter and Oubre already. The best way to make a better team is to build through the draft and they know they can get the 4th pick and a former #2 pick in Lonzo (LOL Magic). Paying Beal 28 million isn’t going to stop you from losing anyways so might as well get as much as you can for him. Lonzo, 4th and 9th pick plus whatever lottery pick you end up with next year may jumpstart that franchise again... Though it is the Wizards and I’m sure they will find a way to mess it up again

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    Ya - I think WAS has to trade Beal for as many picks/best picks possible and there will be a line of suitors.

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    What Pop said at the end of the Spurs' season is fodder for the press. At that point he hadn't had any time to sit down with the rest of the staff and do any serious evaluating. On the other hand, I agree that conservative Pop is more likely to hang on to Dumbmar than trade him, unless Dumbmar expresses a desire to be traded, which wouldn't surprise me. That doesn't change the fact that Dumbmar's antics have to rankle Pop. How much? We may find out.
    That's a sure way to get disappointed. Don't give me hope!

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    Flakers have to get a big name free agent after striking out this past year and the firing of coaches and GM not looking good at all. even talk about them trading LeBron what free agent would want to sign with them?

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    That's a sure way to get disappointed. Don't give me hope!
    Haha! Yeah, I have very little hope myself. But everybody here must agree that his antics are very un-Spursy. Losing his cool the way he does is so bizarre to behold after the Big 3 era of smart, silent assassins. Man I loved those guys and that team mystique. I sure miss it.

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