Uncle Dennis Finally Talks! “They didn’t believe Kawhi couldn’t play and that caused a lack of trust"

[exstatic]

The timing of what you mention is definitely intriguing, but the basic problem with "money as motive" is that the Spurs could have paid him more than any other team.

How about "We've already pissed away $40M, and can't afford to lose endorsements, too." You can afford to alienate one team, because there are 30 of them. There are only a few shoe companies, and if the reputation gets established that you're flaking out on them, none of them will hire you.

[duncan2k5]

The collective bargaining agreement with the players union allows players to get a second opinion, a third opinion, a fourth opinion, a fifth opinion, a sixth opinion, a seventh opinion, and an eighth opinion. The team cannot prevent a player from seeking an outside opinion. The "group" took that and ran up to New York. The "groups" doctors have been in control of KL's rehab for close to two years and he is still having issues. A chronic knee condition. If fact, the rehab Dr. Garrett (referenced in the main Nephew thread) indicated that the patella tendonitis goes all the way back to the guys HIGH SCHOOL playing days. He took a pretty good hit in the same area a long time ago and it has been an issue ever since. Doctor Garrett certainly has contacts and knows more stuff about the situation with his organization contacts. He believes that the knee issue he is dealing with now is the same one he has had for almost a decade. Wear and tear from an eight year NBA career does not help things. The condition was milked by the "group" (the uncle especially) and the holdout of 2017-18 comes to pass. There was no misdiagnosis. The load management tells you there is a chronic condition. One season of basketball in two years (under the care of his own medical people) and there are still issues. Faking an injury might not be the correct wording, but there likely was severe exaggeration last year in San Antonio - especially in March and April when he was well enough to play. The guy did not want to push things and take a chance on a setback last year. The subsequent trade and inordinate rest periods this year prevented the guy from not playing. He had to play this year to have the required demand for his services this summer. Once again a very orchestrated plan.

The rehab doctor (who knows all the people in the know) felt like the whole thing was a holdout designed to poison the relationship between the Spurs and "group" in order to get out of town. He pointed specifically to the Uncle.

The KL group has been scared to death of a major setback during the poorly acted dinner theater production that has been going on the last 2 years. The want their money and they want their preferred team. BTW, as hard as they have tried and as much dumb luck as they have had all season, it probably won't end well long term for the Great White North team - after all it is COLD up there. They could win the whole thing (not expecting it myself) and the guy could still head west and not have an instant of conscience or regret. He did not give two craps about all the fans of San Antonio, did he?

U sound like a wild conspiracy theorist... Literally everything u said here was speculation not based in the reality of any universe... And you top it off with KNOWING the players' feelings and motivations... Ok Professor X

[duncan2k5]

Zeus, if this is all true, then it is very damning.

How so? Why would they run ads for a player not playing?

[duncan2k5]

Haven’t posted about the for awhile. Trying to forget about him and move on. I can understand him wanting to go back to LA where he grew up to play. What I can’t accept is the way he threw the Spurs and essentially some of the Spurs players under the bus in doing so, not to mention basically stealing multiple millions of dollars in the process. Frankly I’m pissed at Pop for being so “understanding” of the further enabling the and “his group” trashing the franchises reputation. I bet the Spurs medical staff would like to tell Pop to shove the up his ass.

U have it the other way around... Kawhi was thrown under the bus publicly by current and past spurs players including the coach... The guy has been quiet and classy the entire time

[Harry Callahan]

Garrett is a San Antonio area chiropractor. He is not a licensed physician. He has never seen any of Leonard's medical records. He has no medical information about Leonard. He has never consulted on the Leonard case, or on any case requiring a licensed physician. He does not know any more about Leonard's medical condition than the average Spurstalk poster does.

This is not to say Garrett is a bad person or an outright charlatan. But he knows nothing of Leonard's medical condition, and he is not qualified to render a medical opinion.

The following may be notable about the place where he works.

"Airrosti is not enrolled in Medicare and therefore to remain compliant with Federal regulations, we cannot treat any beneficiary of Medicare."

Also, they do not prescribe medications because they are not legally qualified to do so. Nor are they legally able to give injections, not even flu shots.

What Airrosti does is just ordinary chiropractor stuff. Basically, they'll give you a ridiculously expensive backrub.

Garrett has treated San Antonio Spurs players and former players who happen to also be assistant coaches now who have a lot more information than you do and I do. He stated his opinion on the matter and he has spoken with team players and officials. He would also require guidance from medical personal with the team in those instances - he did not treat Leonard true. He knows people in the loop and stated his opinion on the matter.

What does Medicare have to do with anything anyway? These players aren't on Medicare plans.

[duncan2k5]

Garrett is a San Antonio area chiropractor. He is not a licensed physician. He has never seen any of Leonard's medical records. He has no medical information about Leonard. He has never consulted on the Leonard case, or on any case requiring a licensed physician. He does not know any more about Leonard's medical condition than the average Spurstalk poster does.

This is not to say Garrett is a bad person or an outright charlatan. But he knows nothing of Leonard's medical condition, and he is not qualified to render a medical opinion.

The following may be notable about the place where he works.

"Airrosti is not enrolled in Medicare and therefore to remain compliant with Federal regulations, we cannot treat any beneficiary of Medicare."

Also, they do not prescribe medications because they are not legally qualified to do so. Nor are they legally able to give injections, not even flu shots.

What Airrosti does is just ordinary chiropractor stuff. Basically, they'll give you a ridiculously expensive backrub.

Exactly... But ppl on here want to pretend as if he is some inside source

[duncan2k5]

Garrett has treated San Antonio Spurs players and former players who happen to also be assistant coaches now who have a lot more information than you do and I do. He stated his opinion on the matter and he has spoken with team players and officials. He would also require guidance from medical personal with the team in those instances - he did not treat Leonard true. He knows people in the loop and stated his opinion of the matter.

What does Medicare have to do with anything anyway? These players aren't on Medicare plans.

In other words his biased opinion is based on the biased opinions of others? Gotcha

[K...]

I'd like to find out what Nike thought about Leonard . Just for the lol. It's one thing to piss off a small market team, but the leading shoes maker who own your logo? Pissed off ex agent? I mean even if the Spurs did make some bad choices, Leonard has screwed over a whole path of deal makers who would've made his life easier

[Harry Callahan]

Haven’t posted about the for awhile. Trying to forget about him and move on. I can understand him wanting to go back to LA where he grew up to play. What I can’t accept is the way he threw the Spurs and essentially some of the Spurs players under the bus in doing so, not to mention basically stealing multiple millions of dollars in the process. Frankly I’m pissed at Pop for being so “understanding” of the further enabling the and “his group” trashing the franchises reputation. I bet the Spurs medical staff would like to tell Pop to shove the up his ass.

I find it funny that the ESPN MSM crowd is giving kudos to the medical and training staff of Toronto for all the success of #2 staying on the court for 70% of the season. They have nothing to do with it. The "Group" is running the medical show and how much he plays and the guy is not right as we speak. He will have pain issues the rest of his career but he wants that money now and the choice of location.

The group is just hoping and praying he doesn't break in the next two weeks. We'll see. I given Toronto maybe a 20% chance of retaining him. 25% if they somehow navigate the Rainbow Warriors.

[duncan2k5]

I'd like to find out what Nike thought about Leonard . Just for the lol. It's one thing to piss off a small market team, but the leading shoes maker who own your logo? Pissed off ex agent? I mean even if the Spurs did make some bad choices, Leonard has screwed over a whole path of deal makers who would've made his life easier

So now Nike and these big money hungry corporations are the good guys? I thought we loved when players stuck it to those in power? I guess it's only good when it fits our narrative

[Harry Callahan]

In other words his biased opinion is based on the biased opinions of others? Gotcha

You have an uninformed opinion with bias. Garrett has an informed opinion with bias. So what. You are a reliable, easily triggered one aren't you?

[Dejounte]

You have an uninformed opinion with bias. Garrett has an informed opinion with bias. So what. You are a reliable, easily triggered one aren't you?

Lmao. Got em.

[Harry Callahan]

Bottom line, the tendons still hurt. The guys in pain and always will be as long as he plays basketball. Nothing can change that.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Haven’t posted about the for awhile. Trying to forget about him and move on. I can understand him wanting to go back to LA where he grew up to play. What I can’t accept is the way he threw the Spurs and essentially some of the Spurs players under the bus in doing so, not to mention basically stealing multiple millions of dollars in the process. Frankly I’m pissed at Pop for being so “understanding” of the further enabling the and “his group” trashing the franchises reputation. I bet the Spurs medical staff would like to tell Pop to shove the up his ass.

It's all there and easy enough to verify. Look at the dates on the Nike press releases and commercials. Then look at his game logs. I didn't fake the dates on the do ents. Don't believe me, go look for yourself.

The timing of what you mention is definitely intriguing, but the basic problem with "money as motive" is that the Spurs could have paid him more than any other team.

First of all, what I said was that money was the motive for the mysterious 9-day return and subsequent bail-out. He HAD to get back on the court ahead of the Nike promotion. Not just so that he could get paid, but to satisfy Nike who had already invested a load in that product release. What... you don't think Nike has any influence in the sports world?

You do understand that he left the super-max on the table anyway?

He's going to make a of a lot more off of a long term relationship with Nike.

He was leaving, no matter what. He came back right before the Nike commercials and product release. He played well - rusty, but he ran floor, and absorbed contact, and threw down massive dunks. And he looked good in front of the cameras.

He never showed ANY signs that his leg was hurting. He did the longest post-game interviews he'd ever done. And e

very interview with every other Spurs player, and with Pop, were all asking about Kawhi. Then the commercials came out, and Nike got everything they paid for, plus some.

I think Pop smelled a rat. Go back and look at his comments and his demeanor during that time. Then look at how frustrated he looked when he announced that they were "shutting him down indefinitely". By that time he figured out that Kawhi had no intention of coming back to the Spurs. (That last bit is just speculation on my part. The rest is on the record and out there for anyone to see.)

[picnroll]

U have it the other way around... Kawhi was thrown under the bus publicly by current and past spurs players including the coach... The guy has been quiet and classy the entire time

Poor little flower. Tony said his completely torn hamstring was worse than nephew’s booboo. How was doing clinics in China and comes back barely able to walk?

[Twisted_Dawg]

I'd like to find out what Nike thought about Leonard . Just for the lol. It's one thing to piss off a small market team, but the leading shoes maker who own your logo? Pissed off ex agent? I mean even if the Spurs did make some bad choices, Leonard has screwed over a whole path of deal makers who would've made his life easier

IIRC Nike made the Leonard Group an offer on an shoe extension, which was turned down by the Group as too low. When the contract ended, Leonard signed with New Balance. I believe Nike had a contractual right to match the NB offer and maintain Leonard, but they passed.

[look_at_g_shred]

Bottom line, the tendons still hurt. The guys in pain and always will be as long as he plays basketball. Nothing can change that.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Re Dr. Jason Garrett, I think he is a doctor of chiropractic, and not a medical doctor, nor a ortho or surgeon. Nor do I believe he ever examined Leonard or reviewed the medical reports. So perhaps a bit of caution on quoting his opinion?

[ZeusWillJudge]

IIRC Nike made the Leonard Group an offer on an shoe extension, which was turned down by the Group as too low. When the contract ended, Leonard signed with New Balance. I believe Nike had a contractual right to match the NB offer and maintain Leonard, but they passed.

Just so the stories don't get tangled, Kawhi's contract with Nike ended in October 2018, just about the time Kawhi first hit the court in a Raptors' jersey. Back during the time all this was going on, and for almost a year afterward, Kawhi was getting paid by Nike.

Nike (Jordan Brands) offered Nephew a 4-year $22Million deal, and he turned them down to go with New Balance.

[exstatic]

Re Dr. Jason Garrett, I think he is a doctor of chiropractic, and not a medical doctor, nor a ortho or surgeon. Nor do I believe he ever examined Leonard or reviewed the medical reports. So perhaps a bit of caution on quoting his opinion?

AIRROSTI has a relationship with the Spurs, and they specialize in tissue injuries. Guess what Kawhi has? His opinion is much more pertinent than that of the Kawhi knob slobberer crowd. Oh, and I don't care what you believe. You don't know if he treated or reviewed his records or not, so stop throwing shade at him without knowing.

[K...]

IIRC Nike made the Leonard Group an offer on an shoe extension, which was turned down by the Group as too low. When the contract ended, Leonard signed with New Balance. I believe Nike had a contractual right to match the NB offer and maintain Leonard, but they passed.

Yeah we know that, but it's easy to imagine them providing damning testimony about Leonard's asks and negotiations. If he was unprofessional towards them, it supports the Spurs claims that Leonard poisoned the well.

He's a top 3 player, but a bottom 50 personality. For Leonard it doesn't make sense: he leaves Nike over $$$, but for the Spurs it was not about $$$$¿. The Spurs are like the new balance of the NBA and had the $$$ to back it up.

[JeffDuncan]

The Spurs have used AIRROSTI in the past. I know for a fact that Parker has been treated by them. Not out of the realm of possibility that Kawhi has, too. As for Medicare, who gives a ? That's health coverage for Seniors, and is not pertinent to the discussion at hand.

The reason why you don't see the point of the Medicare mention is because you're so ignorant of this whole subject. Per a medicare website search, there are in fact more than 10 chiropractic clinics within 15 miles of where I live that do qualify to receive Medicare payments. The federal requirements are obviously not too high. But Airrosti hasn't qualified. It's a clear statement that Airrosti is extremely low level in medical status, when they don't even meet the standards that most chiropractic clinics do.

That's why it's pertinent, dummy.

Jason Garrett, DC, is not a physician, and he has no medical knowledge that would enable him to render a valid medical opinion about Kawhi Leonard.

[Harry Callahan]

Garrett knows people. He has a company with over 200 rehab clinics. He is a mover and a shaker and is a spurs season ticket holder - not the cheap ones either in all likelihood. Kawhi stole some of his season ticket money over the last 2 years.

[J_Paco]

Dr. Garrett called our favorite Nephew "#2" and even referenced the double meaning in his interview with Chris Duel. He obviously did not buy the so- called misdiagnosis crap shoveled out by the group. Interesting interview to listen to from just a couple of days ago.

Yo, where can I find the interview with the rehab doctor and why, oh, why hasn't this been mainstream news?

[exstatic]

The reason why you don't see the point of the Medicare mention is because you're so ignorant of this whole subject. Per a medicare website search, there are in fact more than 10 chiropractic clinics within 15 miles of where I live that do qualify to receive Medicare payments. The federal requirements are obviously not too high. But Airrosti hasn't qualified. It's a clear statement that Airrosti is extremely low level in medical status, when they don't even meet the standards that most chiropractic clinics do.

That's why it's pertinent, dummy.

Jason Garrett, DC, is not a physician, and he has no medical knowledge that would enable him to render a valid medical opinion about Kawhi Leonard.

Did you know that there are medical practices that don't WANT to deal with Medicare? That includes physicians, too...dummy.