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    if this is confirmed, the scenario changes from "he wants to go to LA anyway" to "he wants to get out of SA anyway", this for me is much more serious.
    In my mind it’s never been as one sided as painted by some here. There’s probably layers to the entire thing that are unknown, like the falling out being in the making for far longer than the last season in SA. There’s definitely a point if no return reached last season but like all divorces the last straw is not the only straw in the stack. Just common senses.

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    Untrue. Spurs have always expressed humility in their success - always pointing to Duncan as the main reason for it.
    I do somewhat agree with that but that is mostly in the past following Drob's and Timmy's lead keeping them all in check . This current FO and especially Pop have taken a pretty steep nose dive these past few years where egos and lack of Humility are very show and telling.

    Now I do believe both parties are at fault but a Franchise alienating their star Player and a Top NBA player at that will go down as one of the biggest blunders in League history and Wether we like it or not it will be a tarnish to Pop's legacy as he is winding it down.

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    Siakam was never going be in the deal. He was the back up plan if Quitter left town. OG was the more realistic option. The losers are the LA teams and the teams refusing to give up All-Star caliber assets for Quitter.

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    The front office including Pop is an example of where arrogance and ego by those who work off the court thought they were more important then those who are on the court. Actually, this is not that unusual and happens in business all the time. It is the number one reason good employees leave their employer.
    +1

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    Better for the Spurs if he stays in the East. Didn’t send him to LA and if he doesn’t go there = a marginal win.

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    Biggest loser is truly the otherwise boring Clippers - they have tampered per Silver in Doc’s salivating praise and it was rumored his top choice. If he stays Toronto my esteem (little as it is) for KL will rise as he has shown at least some loyalty to something.
    Biggest loser is the Spurs. The trade is looking worse for the Spurs all the time. Toronto stole Leonard and made a great gamble that is paying off.

    Not the conservative cautious moves the Spurs are making. Holding on the Leonard too long hoping he will change his mind was a big miscalcualtion on the Spurs and the cautious move the Spurs took.

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    Siakam was never going be in the deal. He was the back up plan if Quitter left town. OG was the more realistic option. The losers are the LA teams and the teams refusing to give up All-Star caliber assets for Quitter.
    biggest loser is the spurs.

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    Spurs aren’t going to look good in any of this IMO, regardless of what he does this summer.

    Truly the only way the Spurs would have saved face was if Kawhi didn’t play again bc the chronic injury didn’t let him.

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    Spurs aren’t going to look good in any of this IMO, regardless of what he does this summer.

    Truly the only way the Spurs would have saved face was if Kawhi didn’t play again bc the chronic injury didn’t let him.
    No . That would just rise the narrative about his misdiagnosed injury

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    No . That would just rise the narrative about his misdiagnosed injury
    True I didn’t think about that angle. But they could save face bc they handed his team control over his rehab and medical care even b4 the season started.

    IMO the real contention with the diagnosis was tied up with money. I do believe Spurs owners had trepidation with that contract if he had a chronic/recurring illness that would require load management of unknown and unpredictable proportions in the future...

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    If he stays in the East, that IS better for the Spurs. The past is the past. Going forward having another Top 4 talent in the West would be worse than any "saving face" stuff.

    Also, it would make Cris Carter look stupid. Which I would enjoy.

    Now if Kawhi re-signs with Raptors, Durant goes to NY and Houston implodes (as they might) West becomes much more open.
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    The front office including Pop is an example of where arrogance and ego by those who work off the court thought they were more important then those who are on the court. Actually, this is not that unusual and happens in business all the time. It is the number one reason good employees leave their employer.
    Its time for this organization to “Drain the Swamp” so to speak. Retirement, replacement for some folks..

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    Oh yeah? We're going to sign DeRozan long-term! So take that!





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    This is just an unconfirmed rumor. Not buying it until it actually happens tbh or until Woj or Shams are reporting it. And yall need to move on already. The obsession with the ex stalking on this forum is disgusting

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    I don't buy it -- he's gotta secure the bag. Long term he wants the Clips. Too injury prone to risk it.

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    Not buying it, sorry.

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    This is just an unconfirmed rumor. Not buying it until it actually happens tbh or until Woj or Shams are reporting it. And yall need to move on already. The obsession with the ex stalking on this forum is disgusting
    I don’t speak for anyone but myself but I am not obsessed with the ex, I just watch basketball and Leonard is a great player.

    Since the trade happened and Dejounte’s injury (to top off the bad start to the season) I have watched less basketball than previously. Not just less Spurs but less basketball. I have become more casual.

    The fact Kawhi is in the finals just brings up the subject again. If he had been eliminated earlier I’d not be talking about him.

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    Believe it when I see it

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    If he really does extend, will the contingent that still hates him on this site turn their vitriol to PATFO, as deserved?
    Apparently it was someone other than Pop in the organization that really pissed him off. I'll be mad as at ownership if that's the case. Because then it wasn't about him wanting to go home to LA, it was him just wanting out.

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    Apparently it was someone other than Pop in the organization that really pissed him off. I'll be mad as at ownership if that's the case. Because then it wasn't about him wanting to go home to LA, it was him just wanting out.
    tony “my injury was 100 times worse” parker tbh?

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    If he really does extend, will the contingent that still hates him on this site turn their vitriol to PATFO, as deserved?
    No. Of course not. PATFO is infallible to the slurpers.

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    Not surprised if true. Toronto is a great town. He’ll have the East on lock. They’ve gone out of their way to make him feel welcomed. Drake, etc.

    I’d feel stupid if I was Boston and Lakers right about now. I’m actually impressed the Spurs stayed the course a looked for the best offer available, and not some dog package headlined by Covington, Kuzma, or Rosier. F that.

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    Wait your bet with DD was for game 1? Damm losing 1k cause PATFO didnt include siakam in a kawhi deal

    If leonard signs 1+1. Hes probably very confident with his health. It also means he was really not 100 this year in the RS. Load managment was really about health and not saving it for a max with LA.

    The ankle bone's connected to the...neck bone.

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    Posted this on the Kawhi thread, but I thought it was significant enough to warrant its own thread. I don’t know about the reliability of the source, but David Thorpe and Henry Abott were formerly with ESPN, so they should be at least fairly plugged-in.



    How would the players and the league know what's going on inside Kawhi's empty head? It's all guesswork in an attemp to get internet clicks.

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