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    Numbers:

    Of the last 35 first overall picks, 77 percent of those players were future all stars. 2nd picks? 34%. 3rd pick? 49%. 4th pick? 29%. 5th pick? 31%. 6th pick? 20%. 7th pick? 20%. 8th pick? 11%.

    So trading DDR for the 6 pick is really risky given that 80% of the time, the 6th pick has not been near as good as DDR is. Spurs should not bother trading down into the lottery unless there is a player that they like that slips past the top 5 picks. Lottery picks are too expensive and yield mostly failed players. There is a reason why perennial lottery teams never get better. It's because unless the tankers get the number one pick, it's bleak that they will get anything from that pick.
    No team is trading a lottery pick for one year of DeRozan.

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    When did Pop piss on his wheaties?

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    No team is trading a lottery pick for one year of DeRozan.
    It’s more likely 2 years vs 1.

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    I like the concept, but especially after the Anthony Davis stuff I don't know about Pop and the Fakers doing a deal. Doubt it. Going through a team in the East might be more plausible.
    Pop's beef was always with Magic, and his tampering/cheating.

    If they're getting a 21/6/6 player, and shipping out Ball, and maybe another small asset (Hart?), (and keeping the #4 pick) I think the Lakers might play ball.

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    More than losing?

    I'm not sure how much an owner, even a meddler like Sarver, actually is involved in the process, but he'd be dealing with RC. Pop would approve/disapprove, but wouldn't directly be involved in the process.

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    Pop is not trading Patty.

    He so embarrassingly vouches for him like he’s part of the Big 3 and his “culture.” Pop would rather trade Murray or White at this point.

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    It will be someone like Rui Hoochiemama (aka the Japanese Tyler Hansbrough), which for some reason people on this board love. Probably because his name is Rui Hoochiemama.


    #6 pick is too high for Hachimura, more like 10-14

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    Look, it’s going to be tough to get a deal done period. Especially with the Lakers/Suns. The framework makes sense, but there are still a lot of variables and hurdles (namely, LA isnt doing anything until AFTER free agency; DeRozan isn’t good enough, even keeping their pick, to forego free agency)

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    Pop's beef was always with Magic, and his tampering/cheating.

    If they're getting a 21/6/6 player, and shipping out Ball, and maybe another small asset (Hart?), (and keeping the #4 pick) I think the Lakers might play ball.
    Ball + Hart is about $10.7 million. DDR is $27.7 mil. It's going to take some juggling.

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    Ball + Hart is about $10.7 million. DDR is $27.7 mil. It's going to take some juggling.
    Just depends on what LA does in free agency. LA has a ton of cap space. If they make DeRozan the priority swapping Ball for DeRozan works easily.

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    It’s more likely 2 years vs 1.
    Pretty sure DeRozan won't opt in to play for a lottery team,. He'll get max or close to max on the open market from a contender or an entry level playoff team looking to contend.

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    Pretty sure DeRozan won't opt in to play for a lottery team,. He'll get max or close to max on the open market from a contender or an entry level playoff team looking to contend.
    LA wouldn’t be a lottery team with him and Lebron. Plus, he will get max just fine whether he opts in or out so no reason to really not take 28M.

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    Ball + Hart is about $10.7 million. DDR is $27.7 mil. It's going to take some juggling.
    LA has cap room to absorb DD's entire contract. Not sure of PHO's situation. They probably have some room, but if not, I'd not be averse to taking on a short contract or two to make the deal work.

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    LA has cap room to absorb DD's entire contract. Not sure of PHO's situation. They probably have some room, but if not, I'd not be averse to taking on a short contract or two to make the deal work.
    PHX has plenty of cap space to absorb Lonzo.

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    LA wouldn’t be a lottery team with him and Lebron. Plus, he will get max just fine whether he opts in or out so no reason to really not take 28M.
    LAL doesn't want him (the article posted awhile back was hypothetical) and they aren't going to jeopardize their chances of trading away assets that could be used to trade for Davis. Three team trades are very tricky and hard to pull off. That's why you see very few of them.

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    LAL doesn't want him (the article posted awhile back was hypothetical) and they aren't going to jeopardize their chances of trading away assets that could be used to trade for Davis. Three team trades are very tricky and hard to pull off. That's why you see very few of them.
    They happen plenty; trades in general are hard to pull off though I agree. But that article while hypothetical was not totally rooted in nothing. Windhorst is plugged into Lebron.

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    Meh I just don't see the Suns and Spurs doing business together, but hey maybe I'm wrong. The Suns are definitely looking to dump Josh Jackson and TJ Warren too.

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    Just depends on what LA does in free agency. LA has a ton of cap space. If they make DeRozan the priority swapping Ball for DeRozan works easily.
    DD would be a sure thing, the proverbial bird in the hand. They've had a ty time trying to get FAs to sign there. Playing with LeBron is difficult, and then throw in the fact that they didn't even make the playoffs last year, and it's a tough sell.

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    LAL doesn't want him (the article posted awhile back was hypothetical) and they aren't going to jeopardize their chances of trading away assets that could be used to trade for Davis. Three team trades are very tricky and hard to pull off. That's why you see very few of them.
    They're not getting Davis. The ONLY shot they had at that was winning the lottery, and N.O. won it instead. They just flat don't have the assets to match Boston.

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    DD would be a sure thing, the proverbial bird in the hand. They've had a ty time trying to get FAs to sign there. Playing with LeBron is difficult, and then throw in the fact that they didn't even make the playoffs last year, and it's a tough sell.
    Sure, but that option will still be there even if they strike out. So you don’t give up the attempt at bat.

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    Suns need a actual PG not a smaller shooting Devin Booker.

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    Why do people keep putting Patty in trades where he has positive value?

    Because of his play and contract, he legit has negative value....even in a dream world where Pop would actually part with him, we'd have to probably start with attaching the 29th pick to shed his contract ...

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    Opportunity Knocks!!!!

    Either trade Murray or trade DeRozan

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    Sure, but that option will still be there even if they strike out. So you don’t give up the attempt at bat.
    Those picks will all be made by then, and not necessarily who the Spurs would want at #6. It's asymetric. You either do it during the draft or not at all.

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