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    Why are you thinking January as the first possible return? The book on this injury, not even factoring in that it's the second one on the same knee, is a year. That puts it sometime in late March. , the g-league season is basically over by then.
    I said nothing about him returning in January. I said he could be cleared for basketball activities by then. I think with the double injury that they're not going to let him even play in Austin that first year (Hence me saying, "I'd assume the team wouldn't let him get d-league work even if he's good..."). The bigger point I was going for was that the Spurs would have a lot of time to see him in practices and exhibition games before picking up that third year. If they think he's going to be James Anderson 2.0, then they won't even pick him. But if they do pick him, they'll have plenty of time to make sure he's past the tear before committing more money.

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    I said nothing about him returning in January. I said he could be cleared for basketball activities by then. I think with the double injury that they're not going to let him even play in Austin that first year (Hence me saying, "I'd assume the team wouldn't let him get d-league work even if he's good..."). The bigger point I was going for was that the Spurs would have a lot of time to see him in practices and exhibition games before picking up that third year. If they think he's going to be James Anderson 2.0, then they won't even pick him. But if they do pick him, they'll have plenty of time to make sure he's past the tear before committing more money.
    Kyle Anderson was a summer league god. It's not exactly an accurate indicator of NBA viability.

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    Kyle Anderson was a summer league god. It's not exactly an accurate indicator of NBA viability.
    Ka is a NBA player on his second contract? Dumb comparison. Playing is an indicator of recovery from injury, which is what the issue is

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    More injury news for the Porter family. I've never heard of scouts using family injury history against a player but it's really difficult to ignore in Jontay's case. All of his siblings are falling apart and he has torn his ACL twice.

    I'd still love him at 49, tbh, but at 29 that's a lot to overlook, IMO.

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    Can't believe there's people willing to take him in the first round. He's garbage and he's legally handicap.

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    Even before all those injury stuff he'd not been an high upside guy, just a future role player, too much talk about him ..

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    Even before all those injury stuff he'd not been an high upside guy, just a future role player, too much talk about him ..
    If he were perfectly healthy, he'd be a top 10 pick. He never should have gone back to school. He was not a lottery pick last year, but he was certainly first round material. Now, he may not be.

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    If he were perfectly healthy, he'd be a top 10 pick. He never should have gone back to school. He was not a lottery pick last year, but he was certainly first round material. Now, he may not be.
    True, but whomever drafted him would be regretting it. Blowing the same ACL twice is a significant issue to my mind.

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    True, but whomever drafted him would be regretting it. Blowing the same ACL twice is a significant issue to my mind.
    Not clear if he would have blown his ACL again had he been drafted. Could be that he didn't let it heal all the way because he was trying to be ready for the combine. Had he been drafted already, he may have been on a slower time table for the summer league if not the pre-season. , maybe the surgery would have been performed differently or the initial rehab done in a way that's would have prevented the ligament from being weakened in the first place.

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    Not clear if he would have blown his ACL again had he been drafted. Could be that he didn't let it heal all the way because he was trying to be ready for the combine. Had he been drafted already, he may have been on a slower time table for the summer league if not the pre-season. , maybe the surgery would have been performed differently or the initial rehab done in a way that's would have prevented the ligament from being weakened in the first place.
    Completely hypothetical. Sure. Fact of the matter is, he's likely in the second, if drafted at all, because he's blown the same ACL twice, which is a big medical red flag...

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    Completely hypothetical. Sure. Fact of the matter is, he's likely in the second, if drafted at all, because he's blown the same ACL twice, which is a big medical red flag...
    That's the reality. Both my post and yours before it were hypothetical.

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    TheAthletic has Porter to the Spurs at 49. I'd really like that, tbh. I realize he may never play basketball again but if he ever gets healthy, Porter has the skills to be an NBA player. You usually can't confidently say that about players taken at 49 or later.

    Speaking of Porter, a scout told me that they don't think it's necessarily bad genes that have caused all the Porter siblings to be injury prone, instead he blamed it on the Porter siblings being on a "hippie raw vegan diet" since childhood and that might have stunted the development of their joints

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    TheAthletic has Porter to the Spurs at 49. I'd really like that, tbh. I realize he may never play basketball again but if he ever gets healthy, Porter has the skills to be an NBA player. You usually can't confidently say that about players taken at 49 or later.

    Speaking of Porter, a scout told me that they don't think it's necessarily bad genes that have caused all the Porter siblings to be injury prone, instead he blamed it on the Porter siblings being on a "hippie raw vegan diet" since childhood and that might have stunted the development of their joints
    He has a sister with 5 acl tears.

    If we force feed them meat can it be reversed or are their joints ruined forever?
    (A family full of athletic talent not eating meat smh)

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    TheAthletic has Porter to the Spurs at 49. I'd really like that, tbh. I realize he may never play basketball again but if he ever gets healthy, Porter has the skills to be an NBA player. You usually can't confidently say that about players taken at 49 or later.

    Speaking of Porter, a scout told me that they don't think it's necessarily bad genes that have caused all the Porter siblings to be injury prone, instead he blamed it on the Porter siblings being on a "hippie raw vegan diet" since childhood and that might have stunted the development of their joints
    And you can fix this stunted development how??

    At 49, Porter might be a good gamble in most drafts, but I'm not so sure in this one. Evaluations are all over the place, so god knows who falls...

    As a general question, if both Porter and Okeke fall that far, which do you pick? I'd go with Okeke.

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    And you can fix this stunted development how??
    Probably too late, tbh.

    At 49, Porter might be a good gamble in most drafts, but I'm not so sure in this one. Evaluations are all over the place, so god knows who falls...
    Somewhat agree but it looks like the real intriguing guys should be off the board by about 45 or so. We'll see.

    As a general question, if both Porter and Okeke fall that far, which do you pick? I'd go with Okeke.
    Okeke easily because he's a lot more likely to return to health. I don't think Okeke falls to 49 but if he does, that would be an easy pick, IMO.

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    Hippie diet? Yikes! Can we get this man some raw meat ASAP?

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    TheAthletic has Porter to the Spurs at 49. I'd really like that, tbh. I realize he may never play basketball again but if he ever gets healthy, Porter has the skills to be an NBA player. You usually can't confidently say that about players taken at 49 or later.

    Speaking of Porter, a scout told me that they don't think it's necessarily bad genes that have caused all the Porter siblings to be injury prone, instead he blamed it on the Porter siblings being on a "hippie raw vegan diet" since childhood and that might have stunted the development of their joints

    Ruined Bill Walton’s career

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    https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/6...michael-porter

    Pretty decent article. If he's there at 49, that's a gamble worth taking, IMO.

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    Jontay the person seems like a really good dude. When I said my list of players that I want/do not want I meant with the 2 firsts. If it’s a second rounder, although he’s a big risk, the talent is there.

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    if he's there at 49, I don't think you think about it. You do it. Liked him last year and he's worth the risk in the 2nd round.

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    He been my 2nd round target. He could pan out being a good to great NBA player and you can't really say that about 2nd round picks too often

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    This kid could die midway through the 2nd round and people here would still say "can't ignore his upside"

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