Bobby Marks: “I wouldn’t be surprised if DeMar DeRozan is on the market in the first week of July”

[Mugen]

More like AD and DDR to the Lakers, Ingram/Kuzma to SA, Ball, Ingram/kuz, Hart and #4 to NOLA

there are zero words, zero to describe how ing awful this would be for the Spurs. Ingram is already on his way out of the league with that blood clot , no idea why re ed ass NOLA thinks he has value. And Kuzma is absolute trash. One of the most overrated trash players in the entire league.

I'd rather ing extend Patty than take on Kyle Kuzma.

[CGD]

Lakers are shopping the 4th Pick for an established player. DeRozan for 4th Pick if it means getting LA AD?

Plus getting AD means Fa wouldn’t be a big deal for LA so working a DeRozan trade now (since he wouldn’t be going to LA makes it easier)

Yeah, the framework is there:

AD—> LAL
4th + Capspace + Kuz —> SAS

NOLA gets:
- DDR (established start)
- Ingram (youngster with star potential)
- 6th (Via LAL trade of Ball to PHX)
- 19th

[DPG21920]

Shipping out Aldridge while keeping Derozan makes zero sense for the team tbh.

If LMA nets you 4 you do it. If he’s your best asset so be it. Can trade DeRozan to another team.

[DPG21920]

Again, it's obviously unlikely, but one thing that might help the Spurs is . . .

- If you're the Lakers, you're only trying to pacify the Hornets. You don't care that Aldridge/DeRozan shouldn't typically fetch the 4th pick, so long as it helps you complete the trade.

If you're the Pelicans, can you do better? Conley is probably the best player not named Davis available, but Aldridge is slightly better, DeRozan is only slightly worse and they'd have Ball/Holiday. Center is the obvious positional need. Drummond, Capela, one of Turner/Sabonis and maybe Adams/Bamba, are probably the best they could do. Turner/Bamba would be good fits and all are obviously significantly younger, but none are stars or likely to be.

Why would they want DeRozan when they'd have Ball-Holiday-Ingram 1-3 and Williamson at the 4 (Ingram can't play full time 4, but even if you wanted to pretend, that's out).

Ball likely traded.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, the framework is there:

AD—> LAL
4th + Capspace + Kuz —> SAS

NOLA gets:
- DDR (established start)
- Ingram (youngster with star potential)
- 6th (Via LAL trade of Ball to PHX)
- 19th

Yup. Something like that makes sense. Although I’d prefer Kuz to NO too and SA keeps 19

[TD 21]

Shipping out Aldridge while keeping Derozan makes zero sense for the team tbh.

Obviously, if it could be pulled off, then trading DeRozan would become a no brainer. I just don't see it though because of Aldridge's age. He'd also take touches away from Williamson and Ingram.

Thinking about it some more, Turner (maybe +) could be a target. Bamba is too much of an unknown. While somewhat underwhelming, the former fits the floor spacer/rim protector mold that's needed next to Williamson and is low usage.

Ball likely traded.

I doubt it. The Pelicans more than likely aren't going to care that him and his dad supposedly want him in a bigger market, like Phoenix. They don't have a long term answer at PG (since they prefer Holiday at SG) and are apparently fans.

Keep in mind, the report was vague, stating "a high level player", not an All-Star necessarily.

[DPG21920]

It will be interesting to see. I don’t see many teams with all star or near all starts wanting to trade for a draft pick. Not too many I can think of. Most teams want to win vs semi blow it up. Certainly not trading a younger already near all star player for 4th Pick in a weaker draft imo

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

LA seemingly wants a player, not 4th

And the Spurs don't want the 4th either.

[DPG21920]

And the Spurs don't want the 4th either.

I think SA would be EXTREMELY interested in DeRozan for #4.

[Custerdome]

Yes

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Spurs ain't going to trade DeRozan. They will probably try and move Patty, Bertans and probably the 19th to open up enough space to sign Bogdanovic.

[CGD]

Yup. Something like that makes sense. Although I’d prefer Kuz to NO too and SA keeps 19

Agree but in addition to established player (DDR) and young one win star potential (Ingram), they want at least 2 firsts. Not sure 29 cuts it. Plus spurs have been linked to Kuz in the past.

Such a trade makes a lot of sense.

[TD 21]

Yeah, the framework is there:

AD—> LAL
4th + Capspace + Kuz —> SAS

NOLA gets:
- DDR (established start)
- Ingram (youngster with star potential)
- 6th (Via LAL trade of Ball to PHX)
- 19th

Rumor is it's likely either #4 or Kuzma, not both . . .

Lakers receive: Davis
Pelicans receive: DeRozan, Ingram, #6 (via Suns)
Suns receive: Ball
Spurs receive: #4 (via Lakers)

Good chance Garland makes it to #6 in this scenario and that might interest the Pelicans, but with Garland-Holiday-Ingram from 1-3, again DeRozan doesn't fit, at least not long term. Plus, with a point forward like Williamson and to a lesser extent Ingram, they need shooting surrounding them or at least someone willing to shoot 3s in volume, like Ball.

[DPG21920]

Rumor is it's likely either #4 or Kuzma, not both . . .

Lakers receive: Davis
Pelicans receive: DeRozan, Ingram, #6 (via Suns)
Suns receive: Ball
Spurs receive: #4 (via Lakers)

Good chance Garland makes it to #6 in this scenario and that might interest the Pelicans, but with Garland-Holiday-Ingram from 1-3, again DeRozan doesn't fit, at least not long term. Plus, with a point forward like Williamson and to a lesser extent Ingram, they need shooting surrounding them or at least someone willing to shoot 3s in volume, like Ball.

It’s definitely not an ideal fit but DeRozan would easily be the best player in the Deal. They seem to want an all star type and there may not be many available. Who knows. DeRozan wouldn’t be first choice that’s for sure.

But from a PR perspective getting the main guy from Kawhi trade plus more assets looks like a win

[TD 21]

It’s definitely not an ideal fit but DeRozan would easily be the best player in the Deal. They seem to want an all star type and there may not be many available. Who knows. DeRozan wouldn’t be first choice that’s for sure.

But from a PR perspective getting the main guy from Kawhi trade plus more assets looks like a win

The S bag trade was panned and is now infamous. Suffice it to say, it wouldn't be some badge of honor to get the main guy from it . . . also and more importantly, Griffin doesn't strike me as senile and out of touch, unfortunately. He's probably intelligent enough to realize that Turner (maybe +), for example, would be a better piece for them than an aging, pseudo star who doesn't fill a positional need or fit with their young core.

[DPG21920]

The S bag trade was panned and is now infamous. Suffice it to say, it wouldn't be some badge of honor to get the main guy from it . . . also and more importantly, Griffin doesn't strike me as senile and out of touch, unfortunately. He's probably intelligent enough to realize that Turner (maybe +), for example, would be a better piece for them than an aging, pseudo star who doesn't fill a positional need or fit with their young core.

2 things: 1. highly doubtful a young all star caliber player (like Turner) can be had for 4. Makes no sense. 2. Griffin liking LA youth for AD after watching them suck even worse after the trade deadline and Ingram having a blood clot negates any sense of being smart.

[Collins21]

Nope.

Are you on Twitter?

[DPG21920]

Are you on Twitter?

@ EricSal_7

[Collins21]

@ EricSal_7

Yeah I follow him I figured that's who it was.

[TD 21]

2 things: 1. highly doubtful a young all star caliber player (like Turner) can be had for 4. Makes no sense. 2. Griffin liking LA youth for AD after watching them suck even worse after the trade deadline and Ingram having a blood clot negates any sense of being smart.

He's a cut under All-Star caliber and they're going to have to make a decision on him and Sabonis sooner than later (makes no sense to tie up significant money in 2 players who can't log significant minutes together). Also, Garland would make a lot of sense for them.

I'm with you on the Lakers youth. Fair enough, but at least Ball-Holiday-Ingram-Williams is a fit. Under no cir stance is DeRozan.

[K...]

wouldn't the spurs give up their first to either team to make it go down? or a guard other than saddy paddy? I just don't see what NOLA gets from the lakers trash. Lakers probably should give all their picks to NOLA even if theyre trash

[exstatic]

Would you trade DDR for Batum? Batum owed 25M them 27M player option. Spurs have shown an ability to rescue French players from Charlotte. Batum looking like garbage last year.

We got Boris for pro-rated minimum on a buyout, and never paid him more than I think $7M. $52M for two years of Batum is far too much. I think the Spurs are keeping their powder dry for next summer, and this blows that out of the water.

[DPG21920]

He's a cut under All-Star caliber and they're going to have to make a decision on him and Sabonis sooner than later (makes no sense to tie up significant money in 2 players who can't log significant minutes together). Also, Garland would make a lot of sense for them.

I'm with you on the Lakers youth. Fair enough, but at least Ball-Holiday-Ingram-Williams is a fit. Under no cir stance is DeRozan.

Neither Ball nor Ingram can shoot. They are awful fits and DeRozan is 10x the player they are.

The decision is on Sabonis for Indy, not Turner. Whether Turner has made all star or not he’s right there. He’s locked.

[JuneJive]

I don't think Griffin goes for DeMar.

[Genovaswitness]

Is PATFO gonna offer demar the max after asking kawhi to take a pay cut??