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    In the big time trade one thing to consider is the teams perpective for next year.
    Lakers want the big piece (Davis) and that's their absolute priority
    N.O. wants the play offs and for having some chance to it needs a big man to replace Davis production (LMA)
    Phoenix wants a real PG that can make the team run considering that's the way his entire roster is gonna play
    In this equation, SA could make the choice to go rebuild and go young and make the most they can with draft picks and young players...also if, doing so, the chances to make play offs next season are at risk...but that perspective could push LA, Phoenix and NO (all western conference teams) to go on on such a deal...
    This could be the outcome

    LA gets A. Davis
    Phoenix get Ball +
    NO gets De Rozan + Alridge
    SA gets 4th + 6th + Kuzma + rights on Stanley Johnson + a ton of cap space (Bojan?)

    possible ?

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    Yes lets replace LMA and DDR with a bunch of rookies, kuzma and bojan

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    Look, the biggest hurdle is that this type of deal would mean Pop is aiding LA in getting AD
    Yeah, I think this is basically a nonstarter. Pop told Demps to not trade with the Lakers under any cir stances. To go from that to helping the Lakers get Davis is not something I can even imagine happening, tbh.

    Besides, I have a hard time believing either DeRozan or Aldridge is the best fit the Pelicans can get for that 4th pick. Neither fit well at all, if we're being honest.

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    I don't think they will trade LaMarcus. This is all about getting rid of DeMar who's a net negative no matter where he plays. I can't see Pop dealing with the Lakers either, maybe there are other options out there. Clippers, Knicks and Heat used to be interested in him a while back

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    Can we just stop with the Spurs involved in a 3 way deal involving Lakers. It isn't happening and we really don't want it to happen. The only player I was interested in was Ingram, but the guy has a blood clot issue, which is something you should tread very carefully for.

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    I don't think they will trade LaMarcus. This is all about getting rid of DeMar who's a net negative no matter where he plays. I can't see Pop dealing with the Lakers either, maybe there are other options out there. Clippers, Knicks and Heat used to be interested in him a while back
    Not 100% sure that this is a legal trade but;

    DeRozan and 29 for Ryan Anderson, Olynyk, and 13.

    Spurs get rid of DDR, pick up 13 to potiential take Little or Sekou (or someone else), Olynyk is on the books for 2 more years at around 13 million per while Anderson is on a partial.

    Based on what I read, he can be traded and then waived before his July 10th deadline and the Spurs would only pay $15.4 of his $21.2, 2019-2020 salary.


    For the Heat, they basically turn dead salary into a player that is an East All-star. Obviously, they give up the 13th pick but would have the 29th instead of nothing.

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    Not 100% sure that this is a legal trade but;

    DeRozan and 29 for Ryan Anderson, Olynyk, and 13.

    Spurs get rid of DDR, pick up 13 to potiential take Little or Sekou (or someone else), Olynyk is on the books for 2 more years at around 13 million per while Anderson is on a partial.

    Based on what I read, he can be traded and then waived before his July 10th deadline and the Spurs would only pay $15.4 of his $21.2, 2019-2020 salary.


    For the Heat, they basically turn dead salary into a player that is an East All-star. Obviously, they give up the 13th pick but would have the 29th instead of nothing.
    that's a terrible trade

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    can somebody explain what the trade exception would do for us if we indeed trade DeRozan for a draft pick? Also I could see the Spurs packaging those picks to make a run at Beal. They apparently wanted him in a Kawhi trade, but Wizards only offered Otto Porter

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    I don't think Spurs will package DD and picks for Beal. Beal is a free agent after next season and no guarantee he will resign. And I don't think Beal is enough of a upgrade, in fact I think they are about equal in terms of talent.

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    I don't think Spurs will package DD and picks for Beal. Beal is a free agent after next season and no guarantee he will resign. And I don't think Beal is enough of a upgrade, in fact I think they are about equal in terms of talent.
    no Beal is under contract until 2021, so 2 years. He's also a way better defender, better 3-point shooter and offball player than DeRozan. Just overall a better fit. I know it's a long shot, but honestly the only 2 realistic players that I would trade for are Beal and Covington. Not counting AD cause he wants to go to LA. Rumor is Heat, Pistons, Wizards and Timberwolves are interested in trading down to get 2 picks cause their salary cap makes it tough for them to fill out the roster.

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    I think DeMar has FAR less trade value than Spurs fans give him credit for. I’ll be very surprised if the Spurs don’t just ride out his contract and hopefully Murray, White and Walker will have developed to the point they let him go, don’t try to resign him. Ultimately I think it’ll be Poeltl and the 29 for kwitter. C’est la vie.

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    Spurs are not known for big moves like this. It aint happening. Ill go by their track record of keeping players vs trading them.
    I think DeMar has FAR less trade value than Spurs fans give him credit for. I’ll be very surprised if the Spurs don’t just ride out his contract and hopefully Murray, White and Walker will have developed to the point they let him go, don’t try to resign him. Ultimately I think it’ll be Poeltl and the 29 for kwitter. C’est la vie.
    Totally agree on both. Now the only splash we might make on draft night is trading #29 and a player (Beli or Bertans) for some 30 year old over hyped player Pop likes. DDR will absolutely be on the team next season.

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    Look, the biggest hurdle is that this type of deal would mean Pop is aiding LA in getting AD
    Fair, but I also think Pops biggest gripe then was the flagrant LAL tampering. Does that soften now that LAL has to compete in the open market? And, does the analysis change if it’s about helping NOLA get what they need (as opposed to helping LAL), a similar small
    Market team being extorted by a star player?

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    Nola just got the first pick in the draft. I doubt they want veterans to make the playoffs. They would want young players and draft picks for the future. That 4th pick is theirs. No way the spurs get in on that for a 30 year old derozan

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    Nola just got the first pick in the draft. I doubt they want veterans to make the playoffs. They would want young players and draft picks for the future. That 4th pick is theirs. No way the spurs get in on that for a 30 year old derozan
    NOLA is the team canvassing the league for an all star using #4 as the piece to get it, so they definitely want to make the playoffs with a veteran.

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    Nola just got the first pick in the draft. I doubt they want veterans to make the playoffs. They would want young players and draft picks for the future. That 4th pick is theirs. No way the spurs get in on that for a 30 year old derozan
    I don’t know.

    1. They have a tight profit margin just like Memphis. Sucking seems like a sure path to Seattle.

    2. Also they’re committed to Holiday at big dollars for the next 4 years

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    Not 100% sure that this is a legal trade but;

    DeRozan and 29 for Ryan Anderson, Olynyk, and 13.

    Spurs get rid of DDR, pick up 13 to potiential take Little or Sekou (or someone else), Olynyk is on the books for 2 more years at around 13 million per while Anderson is on a partial.

    Based on what I read, he can be traded and then waived before his July 10th deadline and the Spurs would only pay $15.4 of his $21.2, 2019-2020 salary.


    For the Heat, they basically turn dead salary into a player that is an East All-star. Obviously, they give up the 13th pick but would have the 29th instead of nothing.
    ONLY pay $15.4M?! WTF?!

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    I think DeMar has FAR less trade value than Spurs fans give him credit for. I’ll be very surprised if the Spurs don’t just ride out his contract and hopefully Murray, White and Walker will have developed to the point they let him go, don’t try to resign him. Ultimately I think it’ll be Poeltl and the 29 for kwitter. C’est la vie.
    The only way DDR has value is if the league realizes that games with 70 3s will be very soon unwatchable and react quickly making DDR game somehow relevant again. Otherwise we must hope in some FO making a Kings-like mistake...

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    I think DeMar has FAR less trade value than Spurs fans give him credit for. I’ll be very surprised if the Spurs don’t just ride out his contract and hopefully Murray, White and Walker will have developed to the point they let him go, don’t try to resign him. Ultimately I think it’ll be Poeltl and the 29 for kwitter. C’est la vie.
    you're right

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    The only way we get the #4 for Demar is when the Lakers strike out in the AD sweepstakes and decide to trade the pick for a second star next to LeBron. Demar becomes a much more attractive asset when a team is desperate to stay relevant. Just like the Spurs had become.

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    Yeah in the days of the big 3 because all you needed were plug and play players. Hopefully they get with the times and start making moves because there's still a lot of holes and a glut of guards with some redundancy.
    Which theyve consistently addressed that they do not want to make big moves because they want to get that stability and corporate knowledge back. This was in the exit interview with Pop. This was in the draft interview with Buford.

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    ^Corporate knowledge on how to get bounced in the first round?

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    In the big time trade one thing to consider is the teams perpective for next year.
    Lakers want the big piece (Davis) and that's their absolute priority
    N.O. wants the play offs and for having some chance to it needs a big man to replace Davis production (LMA)
    Phoenix wants a real PG that can make the team run considering that's the way his entire roster is gonna play
    In this equation, SA could make the choice to go rebuild and go young and make the most they can with draft picks and young players...also if, doing so, the chances to make play offs next season are at risk...but that perspective could push LA, Phoenix and NO (all western conference teams) to go on on such a deal...
    This could be the outcome

    LA gets A. Davis
    Phoenix get Ball +
    NO gets De Rozan + Alridge
    SA gets 4th + 6th + Kuzma + rights on Stanley Johnson + a ton of cap space (Bojan?)

    possible ?
    So NO, with the No. 1 pick in the draft, all of a sudden wants to trade away a top 4 NBA player and get two plus thirty "stars"? NO isn't win now and they can make many trades, including one with Boston, that will get them a roster that is younger and makes the playoffs. You can't trade plus 30 players like LMA and DDR and get equal value. The only teams that want them are ones that are in win now, meaning ones that have a best player that isn't 19 years old. LMA and DDR are most likely to stay on an SA roster as it is in win now as it's best players are +30.

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    I think DeMar has FAR less trade value than Spurs fans give him credit for. I’ll be very surprised if the Spurs don’t just ride out his contract and hopefully Murray, White and Walker will have developed to the point they let him go, don’t try to resign him. Ultimately I think it’ll be Poeltl and the 29 for kwitter. C’est la vie.
    I think Spurs fans undervalue the guy. The guy averaged 21, 6 rebounds, and six assists. Those are credible numbers. Regardless of his "inefficient game," he's not a scrub. He's a legit NBA player that showed high level playmaking skills last year. Now, he's 30, and that does factor into the equation of how long will he be good. But he's not some salary dump. Anyone that sees him as a salary dump or unwanted in the league is just being silly. Maybe no one trades a top 3-4 pick for him, but no way Spurs take anything other than a lottery pick for him.

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    DD is not going anywhere this year...KD being out pretty much assured that.

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