CIA Pop?

  1. ginobilized's Avatar

    ginobilized

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    Sure that trade hurt, but....

    In one move The Warriors dynasty has been toppled while Houston is also in turmoil.
    If Kawhi stays in the East, this is a long-term win for the Spurs.

    It’s been too long since there was a CIA Pop thread.
     
  2. Big Empty's Avatar

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    Lol the west is wide open. We are a solid role player away now from possibly beating anyone in the west.
     
  3. Realdeal1

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    People want to bash POP and laugh that kawhi ringing backfired on him but pop wanted to get kawhi out East and even told kawhi after trading him to Toronto that he's going to a situation with an opportunity to win a le .. this is all according to chris carter ...
     
  4. Dejounte's Avatar

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    Eh. I think Kawhi is coming west to the Clips. Which i think wouldnt be as scary if he stayed with the Raps
     
  5. slick'81's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Empty View Post
    Lol the west is wide open. We are a solid role player away now from possibly beating anyone in the west.

    Were gonna need more then a solid role player to get outta the first rnd this season
     
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    the real question is how can the Spurs improve the roster? DeRozan, Mills, Bertans and Belinelli would have to be shipped out to really improve the team so it can make a deep run in the playoffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by RC_Drunkford View Post
    the real question is how can the Spurs improve the roster? DeRozan, Mills, Bertans and Belinelli would have to be shipped out to really improve the team so it can make a deep run in the playoffs

    How? Is by trade of course but will the spurs actually move patty/demar?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by slick'81 View Post
    How? Is by trade of course but will the spurs actually move patty/demar?
    that's what I'm saying: It's almost impossible to turn this team into a real contender next year, because of the contracts that are on the books. Moving Mills would be bigger than anything. Moving DeMar would be good, but I don't like replacing him with Bogdanovic. Even if White, Murray and Walker all show huge improvements that doesn't look like a championship team. And if you somehow add Bogdanovic and keep DeRozan (which is a long shot) it would mean not resigning Rudy. And then add the fact that you have to take salary back unless you trade all of the dead weight on draft night.
    I really can't wrap my head around it. Like if you want to make this team a contender again, you'd have to trade about 3-4 players during draft night to really get some cap space to make good additions that elevate the team. And those contracts we'd have to move are not good value contracts. They are viewed as bad, meaning you'd have to attach picks.
    The only players I'd target in a trade would be Beal and Covington and both would be difficult to get. Spurs need forwards and most of the role playing ones are free agents, but there's no cap space
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    Quote Originally Posted by slick'81 View Post
    How? Is by trade of course but will the spurs actually move patty/demar?
    how could they possibly get rid of either of those two without giving something of value
    90% of Spurstalk posters love Trainwreck, the other 10% are liars


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    Quote Originally Posted by RC_Drunkford View Post
    that's what I'm saying: It's almost impossible to turn this team into a real contender next year, because of the contracts that are on the books. Moving Mills would be bigger than anything. Moving DeMar would be good, but I don't like replacing him with Bogdanovic. Even if White, Murray and Walker all show huge improvements that doesn't look like a championship team. And if you somehow add Bogdanovic and keep DeRozan (which is a long shot) it would mean not resigning Rudy. And then add the fact that you have to take salary back unless you trade all of the dead weight on draft night.
    I really can't wrap my head around it. Like if you want to make this team a contender again, you'd have to trade about 3-4 players during draft night to really get some cap space to make good additions that elevate the team. And those contracts we'd have to move are not good value contracts. They are viewed as bad, meaning you'd have to attach picks.
    The only players I'd target in a trade would be Beal and Covington and both would be difficult to get. Spurs need forwards and most of the role playing ones are free agents, but there's no cap space
    This is depressing because the spurs can make moves to improve the team but they still wouldn't have the personnel to contend for the le. We're just going to have to watch this team rebuild through the draft and trades for the upcoming years till we have the right squad. I hope the spurs are looking into moving DeRozan/patty/forbes
     
  11. slick'81's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100 View Post
    how could they possibly get rid of either of those two without giving something of value

    Hey somebodys gotta be dmb enough to atleast think about demar.Maybe rc pulls a miracle and gets good value 4 derozan
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RC_Drunkford View Post
    I really can't wrap my head around it. Like if you want to make this team a contender again, you'd have to trade about 3-4 players during draft night to really get some cap space to make good additions that elevate the team. And those contracts we'd have to move are not good value contracts. They are viewed as bad, meaning you'd have to attach picks.
    What you are saying in that paragraph is likely the reason they will stand pat.

    In player development I trust. That the only way to get better with that ^ situation unless someone throws them the kitchen sink for either Aldridge or Derozan... the rumors about Derozan not getting extended are interesting though and something may yet develop we don’t see right now...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAGirl View Post
    What you are saying in that paragraph is likely the reason they will stand pat.

    In player development I trust. That the only way to get better with that ^ situation unless someone throws them the kitchen sink for either Aldridge or Derozan... the rumors about Derozan not getting extended are interesting though and something may yet develop we don’t see right now...
    yeah one of the young guys would have to become a borderline All-Star to make us contenders again. But the rumor about DeRozan not getting extended and signing Bogdanovic smells like a trade to me. Just not one that makes a lot of sense unless you move other parts also
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  14. Spurtacular

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    The Bucks would've beat the Warriors too. Tap the breaks.
     
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    the answer is always yes. CIA Pop. It was always part of the plan.
     
  16. Hoops Czar's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Empty View Post
    Lol the west is wide open. We are a solid role player away now from possibly beating anyone in the west.
    I laughed.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Empty View Post
    Lol the west is wide open. We are a solid role player away now from possibly beating anyone in the west.
    What are you talking about, we have tons of role players
     
  18. itzsoweezee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Empty View Post
    Lol the west is wide open. We are a solid role player away now from possibly beating anyone in the west.
    No, the Spurs are at least two years away from any meaningful improvement, assuming the don't extend DeRozan and choose to become what the raptors were prior to getting kawhi
     
  19. cutewizard's Avatar

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    the Warriors could miss the playoffs next season

    no durant, no klay.....

    injury prone Curry
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutewizard View Post
    the Warriors could miss the playoffs next season

    no durant, no klay.....

    injury prone Curry
    The warriors are ed literally.
    ?
     
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    Next year through trade alone I don't think it's possible. But if one of the young players do break out then there is a chance to get far
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Empty View Post
    Lol the west is wide open. We are a solid role player away now from possibly beating anyone in the west.
    I think Murray could get the Spurs into the 3-5 seed, but if the Lakers get Davis they're winning the conference.
     
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    I'm still surprised at the Bogdonovic trade rumors. This guy isn't good, gets paid a lot and is older than Demar. Why would he be a good candidate for a trade
     
  24. Hoops Czar's Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum View Post
    I think Murray could get the Spurs into the 3-5 seed, but if the Lakers get Davis they're winning the conference.
    Yes, because New Orleans has all that history of winning the west with AD.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndWhite View Post
    I'm still surprised at the Bogdonovic trade rumors. This guy isn't good, gets paid a lot and is older than Demar. Why would he be a good candidate for a trade
    Because he is so much better than DDR in todays NBA. The guy shoots, is big, and has balls. Defends better than DDR, and played well in the playoffs while literally being guarder by three defenders the whole series. Plus, he'll be easily tradeable after a year if needed.

    IND is not so stupid to take DDR, unfortunately.