If you are a realistic spurs fan, Derozan just doesn’t fit with a healthy Spurs roster as it is constructed. With Murray not proving he has a reliable three yet, white struggling with his three (unless open), and Lamarcus / Jakob taking up so much space inside, I really don’t see it working out. Even Lonnie isn’t a threat. All we have from outside is Marco and Bertans. Plus DeMar really wasn’t that great last year.
Thoughts?
Now that the Warriors are no longer the Warriors it would make a lot more sense to keep DeMar since literally 8 teams or so in the west have a legit shot at the finals. We are just one athletic defensive PF/SF away from having a pretty complete roster. Poeltl and Aldridge is an ok fit but Aldridge will need to play 5 at least half the time if not more.
DeRozan & Fatty to NO for the 4th pick
Spurs need to have a meeting with Demar to let him know that we do want him on the team, not as a starter, but as a 6th man. If he is not with it, we need to look to trade him, and it wouldn't be because we didn't want him. Demar is still a major piece to winning a championship. But his lack of outside shot hinders our first unit when defenses can game plan for us. His scoring fits best with a one on one type of play that can be used in the second unit, posting up, slashing to rim, mid range pull ups, and kick outs. He's not really a spot up guy, something our first unit requires since Demar is not a point guard. He'd still average 20+ pts a game. I think he'd play a more efficient game and would be in rhythm all season long playing against opposing teams 2nd units, which would benefit his confidence entering the playoffs.
It's fine that Demar will make 28mil on his last year of his current deal, but after that, I think a fair deal for both sides would be 16m-19m a year for 4 years. I can't imagine another team offering him much more than 20mil on a multiyear deal. Demar as a 6th man would not only make our 2nd unit more lethal but would also accelerate the growth of our younger guys in the starting line up. If the starting unit is struggling they would have Demar to fall back on. I hope Demar can be open to this idea so he can get a ring too. Maybe the Spurs will leave him in the starting line up so he can try to make one more all star game this year, with all the injuries he may have a chance. But if he is not willing to come off the bench at some point, I think we will look to trade him or just let him walk.
Spurs can develop De’Andre Hunter, Nassir Little, or Rui Hachimura into a better player than what Derozan is.
Derozan is a net negative, one dimensional volume chunking, liability on defense. You’re not going to win a championship with this guy. He won’t come off the bench. Can you imagine his frail psyche after that?
If Spurs think their development team can mold one of those 3 potential picks you make whatever Derozan trade is required
Only trade him if it makes sense. Not sure it does anymore... Do think he would excel coming off of the bench, but not sure he could emotionally take it (may hurt some of his confidence).
The thought I'm having is that you might be Apa's aunt.
Honestly, gotta just hope Chip Engelland can work the magic he did with Leonard and Parker on DeRozan. As much as he's not an ideal fit, he was probably the main reason the Spurs finished the season with one of the league's elite offenses. I mean I'd move him in a second to improve the team's future prospects, but he's not an addition by subtraction guy that you'd just want to get off your team either.
why would New Orleans even consider that?
Not just that, but you have to match contracts
NO has like $26mm in cap space and the fourth pick counts for no money coming back. Demar and Mills combine for $30mm, so New Orleans would need to renounce all holds and ship back salary. Only way the deal happens is if the Spurs take back Solomon Hill. And that defeats purpose of creating cap room.
Defends how he sees Raps championship without him. IF it fuels him to take 1000 shots a day, be a defensive guy I know he’s capable of, then keep him. We have enough scorer. And Beautiful Game showed don’t need a Superstar to rin. But Spurs need that defensive stopper.
keep demar and start rudy, bring white off the bench but should have major minutes like Manu's role. DJ, white, demar, gay, LA for small ball or Poetl to the mix for rudy. Give minutes to walker, i think he is ready to contribute may it be offensively or defensively
Really? Spurs are offensively challenged without LMA and DD and sometimes with them. The Spurs had four future hall of famers playing within the framework of the beautiful game, all of them individual stars on their own.
Spurs were the 11th best Offense this year and the 20th Defense.
Murray will fix some of the Defense but it was obvious all season long that the main problem was our defensive problems and not the offensive blackouts.
(The Offensive problems in the Playoffs were cause we absolutely sucked offensively vs the Nuggets and DeRozan was a part of that-defensively he is always a part of the problem)
Derozen is our best guard. If the other players don't fit with him, they get moved, not the other way round. Unless, A) Personality reasons. B) Those young players have a chance to be better than DD in the short run.
We simply have too many guards, and most of them suck on defense
Since DeRozan is our best GUARD we should play him at a guard position.
He is not a SF... Just saying...
Tbh Demar in his first year wasn’t bad. It takes more than a season to get acclimated to Spurs system, but he was already Spurs best facilitator last season. Much of Spurs problem was defensive stops that a lot will be fixed just with Murray coming back, plus Walker improvement and of course with White already. Demar definitely needs that long range and improved defense. I’m really hoping he’ll beast next season. He has to.
They bent over once?
If Kyrie ends up going to the lakers (highly probable) anybody think they could convince the nets to give up Caris LeVert for DeRozan?
He is playing SF because we lack SF's. It demonstrates how good he is. A down year, putting up good numbers in the first year on the new team while playing out of position. If we stop comparing him to the best player in the league, he is pretty damn good.
The fact of the matter,is he had his best seasons with a two way PG who could create his own shot,could shoot the 3 and was good on defense (in the regular season anyway).
He shouldn't be playing SF and RC should construct the roster with less holes next year.
And even then,DeRozan would be a bad fit with OUR guards cause (until proven otherwise) DJ can't shoot from 3,White is inconsistent from 3 and i dunno what Mills is without Manu tbh.
That's why people are talking about trading DeMar and being a bad fit.
And yes,it's easy to say "He's the allstar,trade the other guys" but you know damn well that it doesn't work that way.It's not easier to trade Murray/White/Mills/Forbes and start building the backcourt from scratch than it is simply trading DeRozan.
So either
-DeRozan gets traded (he won't,cause we're the Spurs)
-Murray and White develop into good to great two way guards (they might,cause we're the Spurs)
-Our Guards don't develop that much and DeRozan stays a bad fit (and that's the most probable scenario unfortunately)
The soerms never win another ship you turd OP
TBdog is going to eviscerate me but this is what i said before and I still think:
“IMHO
DDR is cancerous; the stank around him pulls everyone down especially at crucial moments
Mills just isn’t any good
SA would be better w/o both
Assuming they could get a couple of decent replacements who can defend and make an open shot at a reasonable percentage”
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