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The other thing about the AD vs Kwitter situation was that AD didn't publically nuke his trade value, saying he'd leave anywhere that wasn't the Lakers...
I think the real reason LA didn't offer the same package for Kawhi, cause they knew that AD was the play. I think they were well connected on the situation. As soon as AD had an excuse it was over. Boston was in a similar boat but they were both waiting on this AD trade and they decided to save the treasure chest for him. Sucks for us tbh and then Kawhi brought a chip to Toronto and now with that people are more willing to take chances at our expense. The timing was just awful as well as the entire situation.
The other thing about the AD vs Kwitter situation was that AD didn't publically nuke his trade value, saying he'd leave anywhere that wasn't the Lakers...
Davis still ended up in la.What ultimately killed kawhis value was his injury
tru... i think we know now that he's got a serious injury that's only gonna get worse.
The correct assessment right now is that Murray has the most upside defensively out of the two due to his superior athletism but White is ahead of him defensively at the start of the season.
White is the better pg also even though he was a massive let down in game 7 on both ends.
Otherwise i absolutely agree with your op.
Jazz are about to aquire Mike Conley. Spurs need to make some major moves.
again i'll go with the age argument... I'd hope White was the better defender at his age........ Murray has the better tools and relied on them more so to get away with his defensive assignments, but when Murray was on he was much more of a pest than say White when he was on. White is very solid with his defense while Murray can be elite as he has shown in flashes. Some intangibles but Murray can lead a defense, while White is a cog. Murray has the most potential and White is more of what he's gonna be. There's not much ceiling left.
when it comes down to it though, most people have White's play fresh in their memories and can't even remember what it was like to have Murray after two years... It's safe to say, it's good we have both on our sides.
It's amazing how much better/useful derozan would be if he was at least a threat from distance. I mean how can you be a guard in the nba for decade and shoot 15% from distance?? It's mindboggling. If he could even hit it at 35-36% he'd be so much more useful on the roster.
100%
Feel for Philly having a dinosaur like Simmons... and to a lesser extent Greek Freak.. They are always gonna be limited when they play elite teams... too easy to guard, imo. Not saying i wouldn't want them, it's just in this day in age the long ball is king.
If we are talking about upside i agree but right now when the new season starts White is ahead of him as far as defensive IQ and overall. Murray has to show us what he is after his injury, we can't start speculating this or that, we need to see it.
You have zero clue the the definition of the word leverage, do you....
How did that "leverage" work out?
For Leonard? It’s worked pretty well.
the spurs had none. Hence the deal they got. This isn’t hard....
My point is the Spurs would have received more compensation if he would have been traded to a team where he would have resigned, just like AD, he wanted to go to LA so the Lakers were willing to pony up to get him, if kl said he wanted to go to the Clippers, the Spurs would most likely have been able to get him for Tobias Harris/ Avery Bradley and one of the 13th or 14th pick that was rumored to be on the table. The whole situation sucks, we had the best player in the game and basically pushed him out the door. The team could have and should have found a better trade, but they were determined to ship him off somewhere to be forgotten and it came back and bit them.
people here seem to forget that Tobias Harris was on a 1-year deal
Sixers fans are not happy with Harris. Surprise surprise, he is massively overrated.
Rationalizing bad situations is why bad teams stay bad teams for years... Masai went into Toronto... Could have stayed pat... But realized DDR wasn't it and got him out of there... U have to have the balls to make the right move in order to win a ring...
Yes he did... This was literally reported everywhere
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