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    That sounds foolish. If he's drafted, some team will be able to help with his medical costs and give him access to world-class rehab and training facilities. I don't see any reason why he should believe he would recover better on his own given his reinjury.
    The player's bargaining power is gone then. He can't play the teams off each other if he's drafted. That dwarfs all those other considerations.

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    Haven't kept up for the past hour or so. Is DeRozan still on the team?

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    Worst draft in years when the team really needed a homerun tonight(considering how terrible they are in free agency). Three tries and they struck out on every one of em.


    No, what the Spurs needed was to get value out of these picks and not have any ing disasters. They did exactly that.

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    Horrible draft. Not surprising. But still sucks. The front office can officially kill off the fan base and close up shop if they don’t make any moves in the off-season. Not much to root for or be excited about. White and Murray that’s about it.

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    He (or any player) will sign with a team, but the one they want.

    within 5 minutes of the draft being over there will be announcements of a bunch of players who have already agreed to be on a summer league team at the minimum

    I remember guys like Payton II and Cam Oliver getting Rockets deals a couple of minutes after the draft was over
    But those guys were healthy. Why would a team give a guy a million bucks this year to rehab when that money could go to someone who'd be able to fill in?

    I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's not a smart move. Porter has no reason to be calling shots like that. The "best situation" for him isn't if he's going to get playing time or whatever. It's going to be a team that wants him and is willing to put in the time and effort to helping him heal, rehab and train. That's much more likely to be a team that drafts him rather than a team that gives him a min deal for the summer league.

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    How many ing guards can one team have? Did the NBA turn into the 6'4" and under league and didn't notify me?

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    Haven't kept up for the past hour or so. Is DeRozan still on the team?

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    I like spursfans who are like "They didn't pick my pick, so the pick is garbage".

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    I think there was a meltdown when the Spurs picked George Hill. Also, at least they didn't 'trade' their picks for a 'veteran' player, some of these guys might still turn in to something. At least wait until summer league (and probably beyond that) before declaring it a failure.

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    The player's bargaining power is gone then. He can't play the teams off each other if he's drafted. That dwarfs all those other considerations.
    So? Why doesn't every player just decide not to be drafted then? Porter has nothing to offer a team this upcoming season, and he may not even be 100 percent until the year after that. It's hard to imagine he has a lot of negotiating power as it is.

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    raptor time....come on uriji, one more humiliation

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    Not that it would have mattered, but I cannot believe that the fo could not get Torontos second round pick as well....people need to stop making excuses for pop and rc...they are done, stick a fork in em.

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    Not that it would have mattered, but I cannot believe that the fo could not get Torontos second round pick as well....people need to stop making excuses for pop and rc...they are done, stick a fork in em.
    who were your picks?

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    But those guys were healthy. Why would a team give a guy a million bucks this year to rehab when that money could go to someone who'd be able to fill in?

    I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's not a smart move. Porter has no reason to be calling shots like that. The "best situation" for him isn't if he's going to get playing time or whatever. It's going to be a team that wants him and is willing to put in the time and effort to helping him heal, rehab and train. That's much more likely to be a team that drafts him rather than a team that gives him a min deal for the summer league.
    re: Porter calling the shots, he comes from a family of hardcore vegans and he reportedly ignored his orders in rehab by doing work he wasn't cleared for resulting in the second tear. Maybe he's just one of those guys that moves to the beat of his own drum, even if it's offbeat

    Not saying him asking to not be drafted was the case, just offering it as a possibility.

    And even if he was drafted in the second round, who's to say that team was going to give him a million dollars as it is? Second rounders now are occasionally relegated to taking g-league money anyway. How many Spurs second round picks have gotten fully guaranteed money in year 1? I don't even know if Metu was fully guaranteed. Blossomgame made g-league money, what was that, like 28k?

    He might have a team whose trainers or staff he liked that wouldn't commit to drafting him but told him they'd take him on as a UFA, who knows?

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    In hindsight, it's probably a good thing we didn't tank. I have doubts the selection would had changed.

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    Welp on to free agency

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    This forum has flipped from putting every Spurs pick in the hall of fame to mindless ing ala NY fan style.

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    In hindsight, it's probably a good thing we didn't tank. I have doubts the selection would had changed.
    wonder who spurs woulda chosen between luka and goga

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    They could have afforded an injury stash. I'm not sure if I've ever been so disappointed in a draft by the Spurs. Even in 2015 when I was apoplectic about Miluntinov, at least there was Cady. The players may well be decent or even good, but considering what they could have had, I just wish they had gone in different directions. Samanic might start right away, but I don't see either of the latter two picks getting significant minutes any time soon.

    Saving grace is that they should be able to sign a decent forward with the MLE. But will they? Don't know.

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    Welp on to free agency
    Yeah it'll be fun to live through other teams once again during free agency.

    As far as the Spurs are concerned, it'll be a Rudy Gay loyalty contract at 12:01 and sign some veteran trash players to take away minutes from the young guys and fill out the roster.

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    Nobody that wanted Bol Bol at 19 should be voicing any complaints tbh

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    re: Porter calling the shots, he comes from a family of hardcore vegans and he reportedly ignored his orders in rehab by doing work he wasn't cleared for resulting in the second tear. Maybe he's just one of those guys that moves to the beat of his own drum, even if it's offbeat

    Not saying him asking to not be drafted was the case, just offering it as a possibility.

    And even if he was drafted in the second round, who's to say that team was going to give him a million dollars as it is? Second rounders now are occasionally relegated to taking g-league money anyway. How many Spurs second round picks have gotten fully guaranteed money in year 1? I don't even know if Metu was fully guaranteed. Blossomgame made g-league money, what was that, like 28k?

    He might have a team whose trainers or staff he liked that wouldn't commit to drafting him but told him they'd take him on as a UFA, who knows?
    Metu was guaranteed last year and is guaranteed this year. Besides him, I think Bertans and Blair are the only such second-rounders over the past 11 drafts. Blossomgame was offered a min deal but passed it up as per his agreement with PATFO. Weatherspoon may well do something similar. But that's not the point. Since everyone knows Porter won't be able to play this year, he wasn't going to get cut. Any team drafting him would know his situation and should be ready to wait. I know we've been speaking in the hypothetical, so I'll offer slightly different but definitely related scenario: Teams were interested in drafting him in the second round, but he wasn't willing to be stashed in the d-league for a year. He is more inclined to take on his own rehab (again) and then pick his team next year when he's healthy.

    If he does think this, I think it's foolish for the reasons I said. I don't see a team wanting him for anything less than a three-year deal with only that first year guaranteed. Maybe someone like the Mavs are willing to give him a four-year deal with two guaranteed. They're weird like that.

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    This forum has flipped from putting every Spurs pick in the hall of fame to mindless ing ala NY fan style.
    They've been cutting themselves since Uncle Dennis carried KL to Toronto and there's no sign of it slowing down. Scorned lover syndrome tbh

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    I like the pick-up. Dude was a projected first-rounder toward the beginning of last season. Really don't expect SA to fill in their two-way deals yet, but they did sign Eubanks early, so anything is possible.

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