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    Just because I just saw a Trevor Ariza thread pop up, I should remind everyone that the Spurs roster is essentially full. The roster rules is thirteen active players, two inactive players, and two 2-way players who can only be active for 45 regular season days.


    Spurs currently have 11 players under contract


    Demar Derozan
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Patty Mills
    Davis Bertans
    Marco Belinelli
    Bryn Forbes
    Jakob Poeltl
    Lonnie Walker
    Derrick White
    Dejounte Murray
    Chimezie Metu


    A further two 1st round picks to sign. Both appear almost definitely will be signed up this season and will not be a stash abroad situation
    Luka Samanic
    Keldon Johnson


    This makes a total of 13 players that will be on the books entering the free agency period.


    Spurs also hold the rights of their second-round pick, Quinndary Weatherspoon.
    Weatherspoon will need to have fine Summar League and training camp to be signed. Apparently 69% of 'college players' get a guaranteed contract. Since 2010, Spurs have selected, Ryan Richards, Adam Hanga, Marcus Denmon, Deshuan Thomas, Jordan McRae, Cady Lalanne, Jaron Blossomgame, and Chimezie Metu. Although I believe Deshuan Thomas technically signed for the Spurs, he was waived in the pre season. Metu has been the only Spurs player they has signed a guaranteed contract for the Spurs drafted in the second round since 2010.


    Spurs currently have two players on a 2-way contract.
    Ben Moore
    Drew Eubanks
    I am unsure if these two are likely to keep their contract. But we have to assume for the time being they are entering summer league under the 2-way contract.


    Spurs also have been linked to resign Rudy Gay. Technically Dante Cunningham, Quincy Pondexter, and Donatas Motiejunas are also Spurs free agents, but we have to assume and rest assured, they will not be re-signing with the Spurs. Assuming Rudy Gay gets signed, this gives the Spurs 14 players under contract.


    The Spurs also have the full MLE. Considering the Spurs are well under the luxury tax threshold, the Spurs are able to use their full MLE of 9.2 million. Again, we have to assume the Spurs will use this MLE to sign another player.


    This gives the Spurs a total of 15 roster spots taken. This does not include Quinndary Weatherspoon. Like many teams, the Spurs are known for going into camp with less than 15 signed, with three or more players fighting out for the last roster spot. That's where Quinndary Weatherspoon, Ben Moore Drew Eubanks, and insert D League name here, will be fighting for. Looking at these numbers, it's apparent the Spurs will be looking to trade a two for one type of deal.


    In summary, I would love not to see Trevor Ariza type of threads on this forum. Or the classic line 'sure, for the minimum I would love to have him.'


    The Spurs roster is simply too full for this type of nonsense.

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    Ok? Some of these players can easily be traded to free up room.

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    we have to assume the Spurs will use this MLE to sign another player.
    In summary, I would love not to see Trevor Ariza type of threads on this forum.
    ? Ariza is going to get some sort of MLE contract.

    I wouldn't cement Metu's roster spot. Salary dumping someone like Belinelli could also be a possibility if LW4 proves during summer league that he's ready for minutes.

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    I think you have to assume Forbes, Marco, Metu and Bertans are all on the trading block.

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    Can they cut Metu and offer him a d-league deal? He has no business being on the active roster.

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    Pretty sure they'd lose his rights so it'd need to be pre-negotiated.

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    What players will realistically take the 9.2 million (MLE)?? I’d love Marcus Morris or maybe Aminu but I don’t see them coming here. I don’t really see Thaddeus Young fitting here either

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    My guess is metu will be cut if does not succeed in summer league. But one of Bertans or beli have to go, especially if we sign a SF.

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    ? Ariza is going to get some sort of MLE contract.

    I wouldn't cement Metu's roster spot. Salary dumping someone like Belinelli could also be a possibility if LW4 proves during summer league that he's ready for minutes.
    I would vomit if we spend the MLE on Ariza.

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    Can they cut Metu and offer him a d-league deal? He has no business being on the active roster.
    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-anto...ie-metu-27015/

    I think he has guaranteed money this year but not a big deal if they waive him because not using that cap room anyway. Next year is not guaranteed.

    Probably need to move logjam at guard before cutting him. Also, a third center makes more sense assuming Metu can’t competently play in a pinch (or just use a two-way guy).

    Weatherspoon is likely to be a two-way guy.

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    What players will realistically take the 9.2 million (MLE)?? I’d love Marcus Morris or maybe Aminu but I don’t see them coming here. I don’t really see Thaddeus Young fitting here either
    A mid-tier combo forward could be signed especially with the teams with more cap space focusing on Irving, Durant and Nephew.

    Timvp mentioned Rondae Hollis-Jefferson as a possibility if he can stay healthy, and Brooklyn doesn't match, that would be a great signing.

    Young guy with some possible upside left, defensive - minded, athletic and can defend multiple positions.

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    I will love to have Rondar Hollis Jefferson, him , DeMar and gay at the 3/4 will be very good.

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    I will love to have Rondar Hollis Jefferson, him , DeMar and gay at the 3/4 will be very good.
    Only issue, he's absolutely terrible from three-point range (22% career 3 pt. shooter) and might be a bad fit beside DeMar....

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    While Hanga will not be brought over, you make no mention of Milutinov. Likely, if he comes, this would be the year, otherwise he ends up like Hanga, a Euro-lifer.

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    Only issue, he's absolutely terrible from three-point range (22% career 3 pt. shooter) and might be a bad fit beside DeMar....
    Gay can shoot the 3 without problem, I agree for the others. And then you have Forbes and hope white will shoot it like in ncaa. Beli or Bertans could still be there also for some minutes and 3’s.

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    Spending some of the MLE on Nikola would be good.

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    While Hanga will not be brought over, you make no mention of Milutinov. Likely, if he comes, this would be the year, otherwise he ends up like Hanga, a Euro-lifer.
    I mentioned Hanga as a second round pick that was never signed. Who knows with Milutinov. Usually by now we have heard whispers if a stash is preparing to sign. We haven't heard squat.

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    let's hope the Spurs make a trade for somebody over 6'5'' who can shoot the 3 and play defense. Or for some type of future 2nd round pick to salary dump some of the dead weight so we can sign a real SF in free agency

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    I mentioned Hanga as a second round pick that was never signed. Who knows with Milutinov. Usually by now we have heard whispers if a stash is preparing to sign. We haven't heard squat.
    Yes, I realize that is what you said, I mention him specifically because of previous discussions about we need to bring him over since we need depth at SF and he is defense minded. That ship has sailed is all I am saying before others start throwing his name around as a roster addition for SF this off season.

    The only talk about Milutinov I have heard is people on this board speculating. I am just saying, if he does not come this year, he too probably won't ever come. I would hope he has some value as a trade asset if nothing else.

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    let's hope the Spurs make a trade for somebody over 6'5'' who can shoot the 3 and play defense. Or for some type of future 2nd round pick to salary dump some of the dead weight so we can sign a real SF in free agency
    Keldon Johnson is a 3 and D player. Played for a top program with multiple talented players with some success. I think his type should translate pretty quickly but at 19 years old, it does seem like a stretch. I'd be fine with James Ennis. He played pretty well for the Rockets, is a threat from 3 with size.

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    9 seed?

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    Only issue, he's absolutely terrible from three-point range (22% career 3 pt. shooter) and might be a bad fit beside DeMar....
    Also, getting an RJ didn't work out too well for us last time, tbh.

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    Just because I just saw a Trevor Ariza thread pop up, I should remind everyone that the Spurs roster is essentially full. The roster rules is thirteen active players, two inactive players, and two 2-way players who can only be active for 45 regular season days.


    Spurs currently have 11 players under contract


    Demar Derozan
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Patty Mills
    Davis Bertans
    Marco Belinelli
    Bryn Forbes
    Jakob Poeltl
    Lonnie Walker
    Derrick White
    Dejounte Murray
    Chimezie Metu


    A further two 1st round picks to sign. Both appear almost definitely will be signed up this season and will not be a stash abroad situation
    Luka Samanic
    Keldon Johnson


    This makes a total of 13 players that will be on the books entering the free agency period.


    Spurs also hold the rights of their second-round pick, Quinndary Weatherspoon.
    Weatherspoon will need to have fine Summar League and training camp to be signed. Apparently 69% of 'college players' get a guaranteed contract. Since 2010, Spurs have selected, Ryan Richards, Adam Hanga, Marcus Denmon, Deshuan Thomas, Jordan McRae, Cady Lalanne, Jaron Blossomgame, and Chimezie Metu. Although I believe Deshuan Thomas technically signed for the Spurs, he was waived in the pre season. Metu has been the only Spurs player they has signed a guaranteed contract for the Spurs drafted in the second round since 2010.


    Spurs currently have two players on a 2-way contract.
    Ben Moore
    Drew Eubanks
    I am unsure if these two are likely to keep their contract. But we have to assume for the time being they are entering summer league under the 2-way contract.


    Spurs also have been linked to resign Rudy Gay. Technically Dante Cunningham, Quincy Pondexter, and Donatas Motiejunas are also Spurs free agents, but we have to assume and rest assured, they will not be re-signing with the Spurs. Assuming Rudy Gay gets signed, this gives the Spurs 14 players under contract.


    The Spurs also have the full MLE. Considering the Spurs are well under the luxury tax threshold, the Spurs are able to use their full MLE of 9.2 million. Again, we have to assume the Spurs will use this MLE to sign another player.


    This gives the Spurs a total of 15 roster spots taken. This does not include Quinndary Weatherspoon. Like many teams, the Spurs are known for going into camp with less than 15 signed, with three or more players fighting out for the last roster spot. That's where Quinndary Weatherspoon, Ben Moore Drew Eubanks, and insert D League name here, will be fighting for. Looking at these numbers, it's apparent the Spurs will be looking to trade a two for one type of deal.


    In summary, I would love not to see Trevor Ariza type of threads on this forum. Or the classic line 'sure, for the minimum I would love to have him.'


    The Spurs roster is simply too full for this type of nonsense.
    One other thing to note is the distribution of players in terms of position:

    Smalls (4)
    Combo Guards - White, Murray
    undersized SG's - Mills, Forbes, (Weatherspoon - assume a 2 way)
    Wings (8)
    2/3 - Derozan, Walker, Belinelli
    SF - Keldon? (is he a 3 or a 2/3?), (Ben Moore - I am guessing we keep him rather than Eubanks as a 2 -way)
    Perimeter PF (3/4 tweener) : Gay, Bertans, Samanic, Metu
    Bigs (2)
    PF - Aldridge
    C - Poetl

    I cannot see us going into the season without adding at least 1 more big man... We will not go into the season with only 2 real bigs. Include this factor in whatever offseason projections you care to make...

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    Yes, the makeup of the team is guard heavy. I'd imagine the spurs are targeting a shooting SF. I still think the Spurs are trading two of beli, mills, Forbes. Then sign a token big. A trade is a must.

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    One other thing to note is the distribution of players in terms of position:

    Smalls (4)
    Combo Guards - White, Murray
    undersized SG's - Mills, Forbes, (Weatherspoon - assume a 2 way)
    Wings (8)
    2/3 - Derozan, Walker, Belinelli
    SF - Keldon? (is he a 3 or a 2/3?), (Ben Moore - I am guessing we keep him rather than Eubanks as a 2 -way)
    Perimeter PF (3/4 tweener) : Gay, Bertans, Samanic, Metu
    Bigs (2)
    PF - Aldridge
    C - Poetl

    I cannot see us going into the season without adding at least 1 more big man... We will not go into the season with only 2 real bigs. Include this factor in whatever offseason projections you care to make...
    I think we keep Eubanks over Moore to answer your last paragraph. We played Eubanks more than Moore last year.

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