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    He's better than that piece of Mills so why not?
    No he isn't.

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    The Spurs did offer him a deal but he wanted to be released as per the articles below.


    https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...d-11286413.php

    https://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/07/13...ed-free-agent/

    The articles under here have proof of what I said about him wanting more guaranteed and bigger role. Quotes coming from his mouth
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    https://airalamo.com/2017/10/27/san-...t-free-agency/

    He thought he was better and worth more than what San Antonio or any team was willing to offer him. He did get a solid deal from Orlando but it wasn't what he wanted the Spurs to pay him.
    Damn I never saw the report that they offered him 9 million per year. Dude is an idiot to take a lesser deal in Orlando. Back then there were reports that the Spurs never made an offer, I guess those were wrong. Seems PATFO is not as stupid as I thought they were. Then again the Mills and Pau deals still make them look stupid

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    He’d likely going Lakers now for minimum

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    Damn I never saw the report that they offered him 9 million per year. Dude is an idiot to take a lesser deal in Orlando. Back then there were reports that the Spurs never made an offer, I guess those were wrong. Seems PATFO is not as stupid as I thought they were. Then again the Mills and Pau deals still make them look stupid
    Simmons is still a good story though. He was in the friggin G league one year unknown and netted at 26M contract the next year. Imo, Amazing. It was his decision and a fair one but 20/20 now I'm sure he would like to be a Spur. He is 30 and dealing with injury. If we can get him under 2.5M yr for a defender off the bench, no brainer. But it has to be a mutual decision, could be burned bridges, hope not.
    r for sure.

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    It was actually 3-year, $20 million, with only $13.3 guaranteed...so if he gets waived, that'd be it for the original contract.

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    Simmons is still a good story though. He was in the friggin G league one year unknown and netted at 26M contract the next year. Imo, Amazing. It was his decision and a fair one but 20/20 now I'm sure he would like to be a Spur. He is 30 and dealing with injury. If we can get him under 2.5M yr for a defender off the bench, no brainer. But it has to be a mutual decision, could be burned bridges, hope not.
    r for sure.
    nah I wouldn't bring him back. Too old at this point and the injury really killed his value. We got too many young guys at his position now. He was a nice player to have before that and played tough. I always loved the guy cause he just played hard. You could see he was an NBA player in his first summer league. The athleticism and defense alone showed that he belongs. He just had to carve out a role for himself and get more consistency on his jump shot.

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    Another one of those role players that lose their powers when they leave the Spurs.

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    Anyone remember this tweet after the Kawhi trade happened?



    Not too bright to burn your bridges with the team that made you, especially when you're just a fringe player in this league. Spurs won't be answering his calls anytime soon.

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    Simmons is still a good story though. He was in the friggin G league one year unknown and netted at 26M contract the next year. Imo, Amazing. It was his decision and a fair one but 20/20 now I'm sure he would like to be a Spur. He is 30 and dealing with injury. If we can get him under 2.5M yr for a defender off the bench, no brainer. But it has to be a mutual decision, could be burned bridges, hope not.
    r for sure.
    Why? This team is already overloaded from 1-3, he's worse than all of them (with the possible exception of Johnson) and like Murray, White, Walker and now Johnson, he's physically incapable of defending big wings. That's the need. They already have them to provide average or better defense from 1-3.

    The need is a big wing who's a legit 3-point shooter. I keep saying names like Kidd-Gilchrist, Young, Crowder, Aminu, Hollis-Jefferson, etc. thrown around, but they're all minimal to non 3-point shooters. Put them alongside the starters (because the players they need them to defend are James, Durant, S bag, Antetokounmpo, etc.) and the offense would suffocate.

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    Why? This team is already overloaded from 1-3, he's worse than all of them (with the possible exception of Johnson) and like Murray, White, Walker and now Johnson, he's physically incapable of defending big wings. That's the need. They already have them to provide average or better defense from 1-3.

    The need is a big wing who's a legit 3-point shooter. I keep saying names like Kidd-Gilchrist, Young, Crowder, Aminu, Hollis-Jefferson, etc. thrown around, but they're all minimal to non 3-point shooters. Put them alongside the starters (because the players they need them to defend are James, Durant, S bag, Antetokounmpo, etc.) and the offense would suffocate.
    This team is not overloaded with 3. The most 3 we have on this team is now Johnson. It was DeRozan and Gay but Gay is now a 4
    We need a back up DD until Walker IV or Keldon gets up to speed. I think Walker starts off in Gleague and has to compete his way on but he is still one year away imo. Who else can fill the back up 3 while learning the Spurs sytem for within a year? I really think for a one year rental Simmons is better than those names you mentioned. We have our future 3s but we need the a vet who will contribute right away. Simmons would be seamless. Too bad most players will know this now and may not sign because SAS only looking for 1 year deals probably.

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    This team is not overloaded with 3. The most 3 we have on this team is now Johnson. It was DeRozan and Gay but Gay is now a 4
    We need a back up DD until Walker IV or Keldon gets up to speed. I think Walker starts off in Gleague and has to compete his way on but he is still one year away imo. Who else can fill the back up 3 while learning the Spurs sytem for within a year? I really think for a one year rental Simmons is better than those names you mentioned. We have our future 3s but we need the a vet who will contribute right away. Simmons would be seamless. Too bad most players will know this now and may not sign because SAS only looking for 1 year deals probably.
    What are you talking about? There's no difference in the types of players Simmons, Murray, White, Walker and Johnson can defend.

    So having Walker, their most promising prospect in 7 years, on a team that needs all the upside it can get, currently being probably one spot away or in a battle (Belinelli) for rotation minutes, in his 2nd season, isn't enough? They need to bury him with an aging, fringe player, who hates the organization and is an ungrateful puke?

    Simmons can't shoot or defend big wings. He's literally the worst possible fit.

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    Would you guys want him back on the Spurs?
    No. This team needs veteran needle-movers, and/or young building blocks. Simmons is neither.

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    What are you talking about? There's no difference in the types of players Simmons, Murray, White, Walker and Johnson can defend.

    So having Walker, their most promising prospect in 7 years, on a team that needs all the upside it can get, currently being probably one spot away or in a battle (Belinelli) for rotation minutes, in his 2nd season, isn't enough? They need to bury him with an aging, fringe player, who hates the organization and is an ungrateful puke?

    Simmons can't shoot or defend big wings. He's literally the worst possible fit.
    People need to stop thinking derozan can play the 3. Dude is a midget at that position.

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    People need to stop thinking derozan can play the 3. Dude is a midget at that position.
    While this is true... It's a reality. Pop is going to play him at the 3.
    And probably for more than spot minutes.

    I'm not endorsing it, mind you... but it's coming to your local movie theater. I hope the popcorn's good there.

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    While this is true... It's a reality. Pop is going to play him at the 3.
    And probably for more than spot minutes.

    I'm not endorsing it, mind you... but it's coming to your local movie theater. I hope the popcorn's good there.
    Sad reality.

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    Mmm... Going to have to order a drink with that popcorn.

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    he would've been a better player had he stayed in sa. didn't follow his career at all after he left but i assume the teams he went on to play for expected more of finished product.

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    he would've been a better player had he stayed in sa. didn't follow his career at all after he left but i assume the teams he went on to play for expected more of finished product.
    You don't follow the draft, you don't follow players that left, do you follow anything beyond the Spurs? ... And yet you make all sorts of definitive statements.

    This sounds fun!

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    You don't follow the draft, you don't follow players that left, do you follow anything beyond the Spurs? ... And yet you make all sorts of definitive statements.

    This sounds fun!
    1) only into nba, not college or euro ball
    2) never thought simmons was gonna amount to much / no need to follow him
    3) this past season was actually the first season i paid more attention to the league than the spurs
    4) my posts are money tbh, had:
    raps winning it all
    lowry not folding in the POs
    siakam winning MIP
    houston winning it all 17/18 (would've happened if cp3 didn't get hurt)
    westbrook winning MVP 16/17

    all these predictions were made before the seasons even started

    didn't think kawhi would come back to play the season he played nine games, thought the spurs should've blown it up that year. also had the spurs beating the rockets after tony got hurt, wanted the spurs to draft montrezl harrell... i would put my record up against anyone on this site

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    What are you talking about? There's no difference in the types of players Simmons, Murray, White, Walker and Johnson can defend.

    So having Walker, their most promising prospect in 7 years, on a team that needs all the upside it can get, currently being probably one spot away or in a battle (Belinelli) for rotation minutes, in his 2nd season, isn't enough? They need to bury him with an aging, fringe player, who hates the organization and is an ungrateful puke?

    Simmons can't shoot or defend big wings. He's literally the worst possible fit.
    Well. He could shoot pre injury and usually it takes a year before they can even feel right let alone play right post injury. Walker IV and Johnson are not ready yet. White and Murray could very well be playing the 1 and backing each other up leaving Forbes, DeRozan, Belli, and Mills left to fill the 2 and the 3 maybe or Bertans and Gay. So, YES, there are plenty of players Simmons can defend over the rest of these guys. That along anothe strecth 4 unless samanic is ready alrrady too.

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    1) only into nba, not college or euro ball
    2) never thought simmons was gonna amount to much / no need to follow him
    3) this past season was actually the first season i paid more attention to the league than the spurs
    4) my posts are money tbh, had:
    raps winning it all
    lowry not folding in the POs
    siakam winning MIP
    houston winning it all 17/18 (would've happened if cp3 didn't get hurt)
    westbrook winning MVP 16/17

    all these predictions were made before the seasons even started

    didn't think kawhi would come back to play the season he played nine games, thought the spurs should've blown it up that year. also had the spurs beating the rockets after tony got hurt, wanted the spurs to draft montrezl harrell... i would put my record up against anyone on this site
    Fun!

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    Well. He could shoot pre injury and usually it takes a year before they can even feel right let alone play right post injury. Walker IV and Johnson are not ready yet. White and Murray could very well be playing the 1 and backing each other up leaving Forbes, DeRozan, Belli, and Mills left to fill the 2 and the 3 maybe or Bertans and Gay. So, YES, there are plenty of players Simmons can defend over the rest of these guys. That along anothe strecth 4 unless samanic is ready alrrady too.
    Bertans and gay play the 4 dummy.

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    Bertans and gay play the 4 dummy.
    Lol. Thay was the point I was making. I guess you didnt read the posts carefully.

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