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    Our ally the KSA is the leading state sponsor of terror.

    The USA supports the KSA big time, so what does that make us?

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    Never forget.








    I guess Chris forgot.

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    Trump broke the JPCOA so he could lay sanctions and apply maximum pressure...to get a deal with Iran to prevent them from developing nukes.


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    "to get a deal with Iran to prevent them from developing nukes."

    Trash broke OBAMA's
    JPCOA which the other 5 or 6 parties said was working.

    Repugs hated
    JPCOA because is was success by the Dems, whom they consider illegit. Any success by the Dems must be blocked or destroyed.

    Trash alone said OBAMA's deal was a bad deal (because he hates Obama).

    Where's Trash's evidence that, IN HIS OPINION, Iran under
    JPCOA was developing nuclear weapons?

    Everything is personal centered on him, with Trash, which includes nuclear geopolitics.



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    Where is Trash/Bolton/Pompeo hard EVIDENCE that Iran was, is developing nuclear weapons?

    And who the is USA to decide who has nuclear weapons?

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    The USA is
    America first do not like it move to Iran

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    Gen. Jack Keane: Trump is first president in 39 years to be on 'strategic offensive' against Iran

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    Gen. Jack Keane: Trump is first president in 39 years to be on 'strategic offensive' against Iran
    Great, what's the political objective?

    Right now we're driving the Iranian people into the camp of the hardliners and showing the whole world we can't be trusted to make a deal with

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    Eliminating the non-Iranian mullahs who control Iran, and squashing their Dar-ul-Solh.

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    America can't do a damn thing to us -Imam Khomeini

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    If USA hits Iran, oil will e, and USA drivers will pay dearly (to BigOil to make $10Bs more)

    Objective?

    What risk is Iran to USA?

    Where's the evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weapons?

    Why does USA keep ing up countries with FAILING regime change?

    Yall rightwingnutjobs are really stupid, ignorant mofos, are EXACTLY why America can't make progress cause y'all elect ING Repugs.

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    Eliminating the non-Iranian mullahs who control Iran, and squashing their Dar-ul-Solh.
    Please tell us about the non-Iranian mullahs running Iran, this is a new one on me. Are they co-religionists from Iraq?

    Do you represent the genuine Iranian nationalism, Chris?

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    Wasn't the Imam Ali born in Najaf? Is it really so weird that Shia scholars come from there?

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    Please tell us about the non-Iranian mullahs running Iran, this is a new one on me. Are they co-religionists from Iraq?

    Do you represent the genuine Iranian nationalism, Chris?
    Well, obviously, we'll be greeted as liberators... heard det one before...

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    America can't do a damn thing to us -Imam Khomeini
    Not according to this brilliant Trumper.



    Freeze!


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    If Trump didn't want war, why did he hire Bolton and Pompeo?

    Iran has long been the unprincipled exception to Trump’s opposition to Middle Eastern quagmires. His desire to undo the Obama presidency predisposed him to unraveling the nuclear deal and led him to folly in Yemen. Now it might prompt him to redo the foreign policy mistakes that toppled the Bush dynasty, paving the way for a socialist to become the next commander-in-chief.
    https://www.theamericanconservative....erm-president/

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    USA created Islamic State and supports Saudi Arabia, but Iran is the radical regime that supports terrorists... yeah OK. You cant make up how sad and pathetic Trump Bolton and Pompeo are..they bank on an ignorant American population to spew such lies... more and more people are becoming woke though

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    If Trump didn't want war, why did he hire Bolton and Pompeo?

    https://www.theamericanconservative....erm-president/
    As with Leonard Leo's politicized judges, the Repug swamp pushes its assholes at Trash, who has no idea of who the people are, ignores vetting and red flags.

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    USA created Islamic State and supports Saudi Arabia, but Iran is the radical regime that supports terrorists... yeah OK. You cant make up how sad and pathetic Trump Bolton and Pompeo are..they bank on an ignorant American population to spew such lies... more and more people are becoming woke though
    WTF has Iran ever done to the US? Now we have overthrown their government to install a puppet. So them overthrowing that puppet is their mortal sin against us?

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    WTF has Iran ever done to the US? Now we have overthrown their government to install a puppet. So them overthrowing that puppet is their mortal sin against us?
    It's USA executing its foreign policy to please AIPAC $$$ / Israel / evangelicals (who always want to attack Muslims, for the fun of it. religion).

    Shiite Iran has been supporting Hezbollah and Hamas as they attack Israel.

    I'm sure SA's Wahhabis are in on that action, but Trash is not talking about bombing Sunni Saudi Arabia,

    and I figure USA is attacking Shiite Iran to please SA's Sunnis, who would probably join in when USA attacks Iran.

    and of, and always, there's oil. Oil and religion, but them both to .

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    WTF has Iran ever done to the US? Now we have overthrown their government to install a puppet. So them overthrowing that puppet is their mortal sin against us?
    Not much. OTOH, USA is responsible for the 1953 coup, unleashing Saddam, and sanctions and shooting down the airliner.

    No reasonable Iranian would be pro-American

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    Trump flips out and threatens ‘obliteration’ after

    Iran calls him re ed


    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/tru...m_campaign=389

    the do of re , gotta love the prosaic alliteration



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    good article arguing why Iran was not the shooter

    Eve of Destruction: Iran Strikes Back

    It seemed beyond credibility that

    Iran would attack a Japanese tanker, the
    Kokuka Courageous, at the moment the Prime Minister of Japan was sitting down with Ayatollah Khamenei in Tehran.

    After all, Iran is eager to keep its oil exports flowing, so it would hardly want to so flagrantly insult one of its top oil customers.

    Nor did it seem to make sense that Iran would target a Norwegian vessel, Front Altair.

    That tanker is owned the shipping company, Frontline, which belongs to Norway’s richest man (before he moved to Cyprus), John Fredriksen.

    Fredriksen made his fortune moving Iranian oil during the Iran-Iraq war,

    Fredriksen’s Frontline company has continued to help Iran move its oil in a way that evades sanctions. A friendlier resource Iran has not.

    This
    is the guy Iran chose to target ... ?

    All of this—

    the history of US false-flags and war-justifying lies, the specifics of the targets hit, and the risibility of the evidence presented—

    made it very difficult for the Trump Administration to assemble a critical mass of domestic or international consent for a military attack on Iran.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/24/eve-of-destruction-iran-strikes-back/

    Embargoes are opportunities to make fortunes.

    I knew a German, ex-German air force pilot, who airlifted supplies to Biafra through AA fire, came back to Germany, paid cash to build a fantastic house.

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    Trump May Already be in Too Deep to Avoid War With Iran

    The US is not going to launch an all-out war against Iran in pursuit of a decisive victory and anything less creates more problems than it resolves.

    Iran would certainly retain post-strike the ability to launch pin-prick attacks up and down the Gulf and, especially, in and around the 35-mile wide Strait of Hormuz through which passes 30 per cent of the world’s oil trade.

    news of the shooting down of the drone immediately sent the price of benchmark Brent crude oil rocketing upwards by 4.75 per cent.

    after the failure of the US ground forces to win in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Somalia, no US leader can start a land war in the Middle East without endangering their political survival at home.

    A senior Iraqi official once said to me that the Iranians “have a PhD” in this type of part political, part military warfare.

    They are tactics that have worked well for Tehran in Lebanon, Iraq and Syria over the past 40 years.

    The Iranians have many pressure points against the US, and above all against its Saudi and Emirati allies in the Gulf.

    Trump is an isolationist, but he is also a populist national leader who claims in his first campaign rallies for the next presidential election to “have made America great again”.

    Such boasts make it difficult to not retaliate against Iran, a country he has demonised as the source of all the troubles in the Middle East.

    the limited military conflict between the US and Iran called the “tanker war”. This was part of the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s and the US came out the winner.

    Israel, Saudi Arabia and UAE may have urged Trump to tear up the nuclear deal and confront Iran,

    but they show no enthusiasm to join any war that ensues.

    Trump thinks he can avoid the quagmire of another Middle East war, but he may already be in too deep.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/25/trump-may-already-in-too-deep-to-avoid-war-with-iran/

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