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    Would be willing to take on Batum if the Hornets are legit willing to add assets to make it happen. Before the draft, I would have been okay with exchanging Bertans, Beli and Mills for Nic and a pick swap. Would have landed Doumbouya or Goga or potentially someone else the Spurs wanted more than Samanic. Now that that's over, I'd really need a first with a legit chance to convey to do a similar deal. It looks like 2020 won't be a great year to have cap space anyway. Getting a pick for $10 Million really isn't a bad deal at all. Batum has been horrible, but on paper, he's that bench SF or platoon PF the team needs, and he might be able to guide Samanic and Johnson in their development.
    Batum is $25m+ for next 3 years.

    I wouldn't mind a trade sending DeRozan there with Batum and another asset.

    Batum has better length and greater range than DeRozan. They are both equally inefficient and expensive.

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    Batum is $25m+ for next 3 years.

    I wouldn't mind a trade sending DeRozan there with Batum and another asset.

    Batum has better length and greater range than DeRozan. They are both equally inefficient and expensive.
    2 more years actually. 2nd year is a player option but I'm sure he'll exercise it. For 2 seasons I wouldn't mind Batum. He would be a huge expiring in 2021

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    Orlando is offering Vucevic a four year deal. I wonder if they’re willing to part with Bamba.

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    The Milutinov news would seem to point to their spending at least the majority of the MLE elsewhere, but logic and the Spurs have rarely intersected in recent years.

    I've settled on the ideal, realistic off season being re-signing Gay, creating cap space or working a sign and trade (trade Bertans, Belinelli and if needed, a lottery protected 1st into cap space elsewhere) to acquire Bogdanovic, then using the MLE on JaMychal Green . . .

    Starters: Green, Bogdanovic, Aldridge, DeRozan, Murray

    Bench: Gay, White, Forbes, Poeltl, Mills

    Deep bench/G-League: Walker, Center (for minimum), Metu, Samanic, Johnson
    Two things have changed this, 1) Supposedly Bogdanovic is the Pacers to lose and they plan to walk away from Young and start Sabonis in his stead. 2) Walker to the Celtics means the Hornets no longer need to pretend to be pseudo compe ive to appease him and align with his timeline and can instead focus on cutting costs and re-building.

    The Spurs should offer Bertans and Belinelli for Williams. The Hornets would save roughly $2.15M, get a look at a younger stretch four and improve their middling 3-point shooting. The Spurs would get a near ideal fit all the way around and avoid what could be something of a bidding war for Green.

    They could fill out the roster with younger shooters, like Kaminsky (rumored interested) for a portion of the MLE and Korkmaz for the minimum . . .

    Starters: Williams, DeRozan, Aldridge, Forbes, Murray

    Bench: Gay, White, Mills, Poeltl, Walker

    Deep bench/G-League: Kaminsky, Korkmaz, Metu, Samanic, Johnson

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    I was reading this Pounding the Rock article: https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019...ay-into-a-star

    and it linked to a spreadsheet by Jacob Goldstein of next year's projected PIPM (player impact plus-minus) numbers for all players. The full spreadsheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...VaVD6k3LOur2sU but I pulled the numbers for all the Spurs players. As with all plus-minus stats, these should be taken with a grain of salt, but I found it to be interesting:

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    Player                      Age  O-PIPM  D-PIPM   PIPM
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    Derrick White               25   +0.42   +1.89   +2.31
    Dejounte Murray             23   -1.03   +3.33   +2.30
    Davis Bertans               27   +1.33   +0.33   +1.67
    Jakob Poeltl                24   +0.06   +0.90   +0.97
    LaMarcus Aldridge           34   +0.65   +0.31   +0.96
    Rudy Gay                    33   -0.49   +0.60   +0.11
    DeMar DeRozan               30   +0.70   -1.08   -0.38
    Patty Mills                 31   +1.09   -2.04   -0.95
    Bryn Forbes                 26   -0.67   -0.53   -1.20
    Lonnie Walker               21   -1.36   -0.11   -1.47
    Chimezie Metu               22   -1.40   -0.11   -1.51
    Drew Eubanks                22   -1.38   -0.13   -1.51
    Quinndary Weatherspoon (R)  23   -0.79   -0.96   -1.75
    Marco Belinelli             33   -0.08   -2.19   -2.27
    Keldon Johnson (R)          20   -0.78   -1.50   -2.28
    Luka Samanic (R)            20   -2.27   -1.46   -3.73

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    It’s happening gif

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    It’s happening gif

    One would hope but no.

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    One would hope but no.
    Alas then

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    Yeah doesn't seem particularly credible. One can hope though

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    lol wtf is this account? Never heard of it. Can anyone speak to its legitimacy?

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    • The Pacers hope to bring back Bojan Bogdanovic, sources say, and they will toggle between Sabonis/Turner lineups and smaller groups featuring T.J. Warren at power forward.
    via Zach Lowe

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...zy-free-agency

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    you mean they dont want that great bertans/belli offer!?

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    Has as much credibility as Wojtek but prayingdog.jpg

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    If the Pacers don't resign Thad Young Spurs should go after him

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    If the Pacers don't resign Thad Young Spurs should go after him
    If they plan on resigning Bojan Thad is probably the odd man out. We would play 4 vs 5 on offense but the options are limited so i guess yeah.

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    Who/what is this account?

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    Who/what is this account?
    Probably some random ST poster.

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    Probably some random ST poster.
    Yeah, the trying to clear cap space” comment was a dead give-away. Spurs wanted to do that exactly ONCE since I have been following them.

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    Just a reminder...


    But think about all those expiring contracts this year!

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