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    Unless there's a big trade coming (and I doubt that), this looks like a raise-the-team-floor signing. Last season they just allllmost made it to the second round. Signing Carroll is mostly about making it to the second round, without destroying their cap flexibility next year and the year after.

    On nights when Belli's 3' aren't falling, he might as well be in the locker room. Bertans hasn't been all that far behind. Carroll won't be quite as bad. So on the nights that the Spurs suck, they'll suck a little less. If they can win a few more regular season games and stay in the top 5 in the conference, they have a pretty strong chance of getting out of the first round.

    It also says to me that they are counting on their young guys improving. Carroll isn't getting in anyone's way. And if the young guys step up, then making it to the second round looks pretty likely. Any wins after that are a bonus. It's incremental improvement on a budget.

    Carroll was pretty much worthless before he learned how to shoot the 3. Give him credit for working to gain a skill that would let him stick with a team. He's got 10 years in the league, so if he is past his prime like some people here are saying, it's not by much. He still gets to the line a lot, which is a pretty good sign that he's still mobile. His 3P% fell last season - if it falls any more it's a problem. But if he can bring it back up just a little, and he keeps getting to the line, he'll be a solid backup for Gay. And since Gay is probably going to need some nights off, he'll be a decent fill-in.

    I was hoping they would get someone more exciting for the full MLE, but they probably would have had to give someone like that a longer deal.

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    im the first one to predict it

    without significant injuries,

    SPURS BEAT THE BUCKS FOR THE 2020 NBA LE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    book it!

    (July 1, 2019 ------------ first one to predict it)

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    (July 1, 2019 ------------ first one to predict it)

    And I predict you're the last.

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    Unless there's a big trade coming (and I doubt that), this looks like a raise-the-team-floor signing. Last season they just allllmost made it to the second round. Signing Carroll is mostly about making it to the second round, without destroying their cap flexibility next year and the year after.

    On nights when Belli's 3' aren't falling, he might as well be in the locker room. Bertans hasn't been all that far behind. Carroll won't be quite as bad. So on the nights that the Spurs suck, they'll suck a little less. If they can win a few more regular season games and stay in the top 5 in the conference, they have a pretty strong chance of getting out of the first round.

    It also says to me that they are counting on their young guys improving. Carroll isn't getting in anyone's way. And if the young guys step up, then making it to the second round looks pretty likely. Any wins after that are a bonus. It's incremental improvement on a budget.

    Carroll was pretty much worthless before he learned how to shoot the 3. Give him credit for working to gain a skill that would let him stick with a team. He's got 10 years in the league, so if he is past his prime like some people here are saying, it's not by much. He still gets to the line a lot, which is a pretty good sign that he's still mobile. His 3P% fell last season - if it falls any more it's a problem. But if he can bring it back up just a little, and he keeps getting to the line, he'll be a solid backup for Gay. And since Gay is probably going to need some nights off, he'll be a decent fill-in.

    I was hoping they would get someone more exciting for the full MLE, but they probably would have had to give someone like that a longer deal.
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    Can we get another player after this, good Sir?

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    And I predict you're the last.

    Pessimistic you are? hmmmm?

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    Working my way through games, 5 quarters in so far

    Quick overreaction:

    Pros:

    -Much better on offense than I thought, though small sample size. Quick on the three.
    -Good enough passer for Spurs offense, had one really good assist I saw
    -deal is only 2 years
    -salary ballast could come in handy

    Cons

    - Tiny sample size theatre, but he didn't look good on defense at all. Guys get steps on him, he loses guys, he gave up a layup as the help man not even trying though he was there. Players missed open shots with him, kind of fortunate.
    - didn't see him really put a body on for defensive rebounding.
    - moved creakily. Maybe it was isolated to that time of year and injuries, tiny sample size

    Big upgrade on Cunningham on offense. Based on the little I've watched so far, I don't expect an upgrade on defense though I have a lot more to watch. Maybe if he's next to Murray and White and Aldridge or Poeltl his defense will come off better

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    im the first one to predict it

    without significant injuries,

    SPURS BEAT THE BUCKS FOR THE 2020 NBA LE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    book it!

    (July 1, 2019 ------------ first one to predict it)
    It's June 30 though

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    im the first one to predict it

    without significant injuries,

    SPURS BEAT THE BUCKS FOR THE 2020 NBA LE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    book it!

    (July 1, 2019 ------------ first one to predict it)
    The Bucks are not making the Finals with all the idiotic moves their FO made tonight.

    (That's not the only problem with your post-but it's the one i choose to comment on)

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    Murray and Carroll make this team better. Perhaps the ceiling is the conference finals with 2nd round exit most likely. Wild card is Walker’s development. Spurs do have ~$3.0MM left of MLE, maybe Mulitinov(sp)?

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    Poetl at center

    Carroll and Gay at forwards

    Samanic as shooter, can Keldon bring u the ball????

    Hmmm, interesting bench

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    Murray and Carroll make this team better. Perhaps the ceiling is the conference finals with 2nd round exit most likely. Wild card is Walker’s development. Spurs do have ~$3.0MM left of MLE, maybe Mulitinov(sp)?
    Carrol doesn't move the needle at all and Murray is a horrible fit next to Derozan. The ceiling is and always will be a first round exit as long as Defrozen is on this team.

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    Poetl at center

    Carroll and Gay at forwards

    Samanic as shooter, can Keldon bring u the ball????


    Hmmm, interesting bench
    Are we forgetting a few players. Like, Mills, Forbes, Beli, Bertans, Walker.

    And who is starting at PF in this scenario of yours?

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    Can we get another player after this, good Sir?
    Spurs do have ~$3.0MM left of MLE, maybe Mulitinov(sp)?
    With Gay re-signing, Carroll, and the two rookies, the Spurs have 15 under contract. They can't sign anyone with the remainder of the MLE unless they clear a roster spot.

    Unless we see an uncharacteristic trade, I think we know what this year's roster looks like. GSG!

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    Decent pickup but this roster is still trash

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    For the money it’s a good signing tbh. I just hope poop doesn’t feed him too many minutes to the detriment of our young guys fwiw....
    100% this. Pop will be Pop.

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    He’s better than Cunningham who played the same role last year.

    It’s not like we were going to get Aminu, Ariza, Tobias Harris or something. This was what they could do at a reasonable price and it was decent. Better than nothing which is what a lot of other teams did (or get worse, haha Guests/Phx/Hornets etc).

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    Cheap, not a bad move.

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    He’s better than Cunningham who played the same role last year.

    Which isnt saying much

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    My quick reaction to signing Demarre has more to do with Dumbmar then Demarre. I certainly expected as much, but I am still disappointed that we didn’t move Dumbmar and acquire a better SF. Then Demarre would be a nice backup. But now we still have no legit starting caliber SF.

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    Can he defend Millsap, at least?

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    I mean, he won’t be playing Point or anything
    Samanic tbh

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    Underwhelming.

    Feels like they're just re-arranging the deck chairs on the anic.

    Internal growth + another year from Derozan doesn't inspire feelings of le contention.

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