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    Why did he leave Toronto?
    Clippers won that pitch with the Paul George trade

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    lol spurs never willing to give up young assets to improve team, no surprise that lead to losing kawhi

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    Why did he leave Toronto?
    Yep. #2 just wants his cake and wants to eat it, too. Don't get why that's so hard to comprehend.

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    that guy.

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    Clippers won that pitch with the Paul George trade
    He was never going to stay in Toronto, dude.

    Kawhi - "just enjoy this moment..."

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    ... Not very subtle.

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    SA has DDR. TOR has a ring. OKC has 5 1st picks. Not exactly a win for the Spurs...
    Wrong!! Spurs have Poeltl and don't you forget it.

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    Wrong!! Spurs have Poeltl and don't you forget it.
    poodle fckn power! Tbh

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    Spurs were trading a one year rental of Leonard, not effectively George and Leonard for the next 4 seasons.

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    If the Spurs had Leonard under a long term deal then they could’ve gotten a large pick haul.

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    Maybe in hindsight the Spurs should’ve asked for, say, an unprotected 1st in 2021 from Toronto.

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    And that between holding out and saying LA or bust he had destroyed his trade value.

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    Spurs are the bigger losers here.

    Pelicans got Ball, Ingram, Hart and multiples picks.
    OKC got Danilo, Shai and 4 picks
    Spurs got Poeltl, DeRozan and 1 lonely pick

    Spurs make possible Leonard for free in LA not taking assets from any LA and allowing them to trade for a Star.(

    Worst decision ever.

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    SA has DDR. TOR has a ring. OKC has 5 1st picks. Not exactly a win for the Spurs...
    Paul George was under contract for 4 more years as is Leonard with the signing. Leonard would be gone from SA anyway no compensation.

    The Spurs aged and did not have the ability to win the le last year even with the malcontent Nephew. It was a no win situation with Leonard because he was leaving San Antonio come or high water. Along the way he spit in the face of the Spurs and the Raptors. Both LA teams will only be able to bring in below average talent going forward. The Lakers only young talent that is not declining is Davis. Many of the top Clipper players are over 30 years old with George, Lou Williams, the point guard that was in Houston.

    In the next four years, I would not be shocked if SA has better roster than all of these teams.

    San Antonio tried to salvage something from the situation. In the end, the Clippers will have to lean on two players with questionable long term health issues. The Clippers just gave up their best young point guard to OKC along with all the picks. They paid dearly to acquire the two LA prima donnas. Both are damaged goods right now. The Lakers are a joke and the Davis trade just confirmed this. The Raptors just fell off the cliff.

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    Paul George was under contract for 4 more years as is Leonard with the signing. Leonard would be gone from SA anyway no compensation.

    The Spurs aged and did not have the ability to win the le last year even with the malcontent Nephew. It was a no win situation with Leonard because he was leaving San Antonio come or high water. Along the way he spit in the face of the Spurs and the Raptors. Both LA teams will only be able to bring in below average talent going forward. The Lakers only young talent that is not declining is Davis. Many of the top Clipper players are over 30 years old with George, Lou Williams, the point guard that was in Houston.

    In the next four years, I would not be shocked if SA has better roster than all of these teams.

    San Antonio tried to salvage something from the situation. In the end, the Clippers will have to lean on two players with questionable long term health issues. The Clippers just gave up their best young point guard to OKC along with all the picks. They paid dearly to acquire the two LA prima donnas. Both are damaged goods right now. The Lakers are a joke and the Davis trade just confirmed this. The Raptors just fell off the cliff.

    The Spurs could have a better roster in the next few years than any of these teams.

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    Spurs are the bigger losers here.

    Pelicans got Ball, Ingram, Hart and multiples picks.
    OKC got Danilo, Shai and 4 picks
    Spurs got Poeltl, DeRozan and 1 lonely pick

    Spurs make possible Leonard for free in LA not taking assets from any LA and allowing them to trade for a Star.(

    Worst decision ever.
    Next time try grasping English a bit more. The Spurs were never offered crap for Leonard because he sabotaged his own trade value. No team trusted #2 last year and a good trade could not be had because of his physical situation and undermining of his own trade value. These trades you are praising are a year after the fact. If KY had not been an azzhat, the Spurs would have received more compensation. HE sowed the seeds of discontent and wanted to damage the Spurs as he pouted out the door.
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    Presti is the real genius here, turning Serge Ibaka into five first rounders, two pick swaps, and Gallinari and SGA. Got a year of Oladipo/Sabonis and a couple out of PG13 too.

    Paul George was under contract for 4 more years as is Leonard with the signing. Leonard would be gone from SA anyway no compensation


    You forgot to mention that Leonard was “hurt” and basically missed an entire season before the trade. George was/is also hurt but played through it.


    It doesn't matter what you or I think, I'm coming at it from the perspective of what I think Kawhi thought. If Kawhi thought those signings were terrible, and if he truly didn't think that the FO office was doing enough to surround him with a compe ive team, then that could have played a big part in him wanting to leave. Maybe he really did like Dedmon and Simmons a lot, and then when the Spurs let them go, that may have pissed him off. It doesn't matter what you and I thought about those decisions, it matters what Kawhi thought, or if he perceived it as a compe ive team. If the Spurs didn't bother asking him, or do as he wanted, then it's their fault they lost him. That is, if he didn't want out before then.
    Paul George agreed to sign back up with Russ and Steven Adams. Give me Patty and Gasol at much lower numbers every time.
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    Lmao at all the trolls in this thread

    We didnt get ripped off from the trade. We got a championship out of Kawhi just like Toronto did. He was always leaving.

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    Kawhi wanted to be home. That's all. Accept it. Move on.

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    So was the earth quake an omen? Is.God pleased.or angered?

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    So was the earth quake an omen? Is.God pleased.or angered?
    Probably laughing at the Lakers like the rest of us, tbh.

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    Spurs were trading a one year rental of Leonard, not effectively George and Leonard for the next 4 seasons.
    Exactly. The Spurs had no leverage. Kawhi's camp was telling anyone who'd listen that he only wanted to go to Los Angeles. They weren't lying.

    It sucked but those were the cards that were dealt.

    Despite the bad hand, the current situation could be a lot worse. A group of promising young players and a group of older players on short-term contracts. The recovery could be swift, tbh.

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    I truly think the Spurs tried to work with the Duece, but LJ Ellis indicates there were "issues" with Leonard FIVE years ago. People conveniently forget that SA asked KL to wait a year to get a max contract in the summer of 2014 so the Spurs could sign a top level free agent. As it turned out, the Spurs signed THE BEST available FA in L Aldridge. And yet people say the Spurs never sign top level FAs. They did that year AND maxed out Nephew - they had carefully planned that situation out. SA won 67 games and then couldn't get past OKC because #2 couldn't make Andre Robertson pay to guard him often enough. Leonard didn't step up against the Clippers the prior year. Then #2 could not stay on the court in 2017 to finish the job. Things did not come together the last few years and the GSW were actually healthy in those years, which trumped everything else.

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    It doesn't matter what you or I think, I'm coming at it from the perspective of what I think Kawhi thought. If Kawhi thought those signings were terrible, and if he truly didn't think that the FO office was doing enough to surround him with a compe ive team, then that could have played a big part in him wanting to leave. Maybe he really did like Dedmon and Simmons a lot, and then when the Spurs let them go, that may have pissed him off. It doesn't matter what you and I thought about those decisions, it matters what Kawhi thought, or if he perceived it as a compe ive team. If the Spurs didn't bother asking him, or do as he wanted, then it's their fault they lost him. That is, if he didn't want out before then.
    agree

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    For those praising the Thunder with all those picks, just remember. Those picks are mostly Clipper and 76er assets. I don't think those picks will be all that great unless something weird happens.

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