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    AD pulled a 73 game medical holdout and I missed it !?! How these things fly by...
    The claim was that Kawhi said LA or bust so that caused the Spurs to not be able to negotiate great returns... AD also said LA or bust... Both were traded in the summer... How the do u guys keep trying to ignore the fact that our FO got destroyed in those negotiations? We got a player and a draft pick... These other teams got great YOUNG talents and a ton of future picks...all from players that said LA or bust.. We got jobbed

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    Man, the shear delusion of some people on here...
    Did Pop and the FO make mistakes? Absolutely. But to those who believe there was ever a chance nephew was ever going to stay... I got nothing for them.
    He's wanted to go back to Cali ever since he left. Uncle parlayed that desire into an opportunity to make more money. This is not just his uncle, this is his AGENT. Would he rather get 10% of the super max kicker or 10% of all the endorsement money nephew could make in a major market? These shoe deals are in the hundreds of millions and he wasn't getting a major endorsement in SA. Period. HEB and a 20 million clothing line was the best he could get here.
    The evidence all supports this:
    At the same time he's sitting out the season his uncle is canceling the contract with Jordan brand because he wasn't making "MVP money";
    He sits out the season before he demands a trade so he doesn't risk injury and now he's on the last year of the contract (more likely to be traded);
    While he's in the middle of his playoff run uncle is suing Nike for the rights to the klaw logo so he's ready for his new brand this season;
    And finally he just left a team that have him the rest he wanted and the support he needed.
    Now I will concede that he might have stayed with Toronto if they had brought in George, but that has to do with uncle being comfortable with his endorsements in Canada (being the star player in the only basketball team in Canada).
    In the end this came down to two factors: nephew wanted to move to Cali and uncle wanted more money. Simple. The ONLY thing the spurs could have done to hold him is to move to LA.
    I agree with you... Once the Spurs did whatever they did to him, then compounded it by all the media bashing they did, there was no coming back for Kawhi... It's like we want our players to have Stockholm syndrome

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    There is no such thing as "a little bit pregnant", you're either pregnant or you are not, you are a or you are not. Kahwitter is still a who left a very stacked Toronto team to go play alongside an mvp caliber player. Right now KD is not a , Kyrie is nowhere near mvp material.
    LMFAO... Ok guys... Stop it... Now Toronto is akin to golden state? A year ago yall were laughing at the fact that he got sent there to "waste" a year... Now they're stacked because it first ur argument? The clippers this year arguably would beat a kawhiless raptors team in a seven game series

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    Sooo… Kawhi went to the Clippers because he was trying to spread the talent around the league, and not give himself the best chance to win B2B with different teams? He passed on an extra $40M that the Raps could have given him, and he passed on playing for a stacked Lakers super-team - all so that he could protect the balance of power in the league?

    He's like some kind of saint. Maybe even a god. I mean, if I wasn't a god myself, I might even bow down to him.
    And because his wife wanted to go home... He could have played for the Lakers if he wanted to... But he hates lebron

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    kawho?

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    Some people...

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    Dat duncan2k5 re spinning dat ...

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    LMFAO... Ok guys... Stop it... Now Toronto is akin to golden state? A year ago yall were laughing at the fact that he got sent there to "waste" a year... Now they're stacked because it first ur argument? The clippers this year arguably would beat a kawhiless raptors team in a seven game series

    You need to be drug tested for this claim. Those who think that Toronto wasn't stacked last year better stop talking about bball altogether. FVV was the second coming of Curry for s sake.

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    This signing is great for the Spurs.. Spurs are free, Lakers are screw, NBA is wide open once again

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    Could part of the problem been that the spurs weren't willing to swing for the fences to trade for a PG and given up the ransom Clippers did?

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    Boston wouldn’t even trade Jaylen Brown. Thanks to Kawhi sandbagging, his value plummeted due to the uncertainty of his injury.

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    Could part of the problem been that the spurs weren't willing to swing for the fences to trade for a PG and given up the ransom Clippers did?

    I would make any bet available that the Lakers won't be in the playoffs for two decades straight, with championships scattered through, with the approach they've taken. If only it wouldn't take 20 years for the payoff.

    The Spurs are a small market team, and can't throw unlimited money at a roster year after year. For them it wouldn't be swinging for the fences, it would be swinging for the scrap heap. You did make me realize one thing, though. It's probably been a week since I've said Kawhi.

    Kawhi.

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    LMFAO... Ok guys... Stop it... Now Toronto is akin to golden state? A year ago yall were laughing at the fact that he got sent there to "waste" a year... Now they're stacked because it first ur argument? The clippers this year arguably would beat a kawhiless raptors team in a seven game series
    DENIAL

    The claim was that Kawhi said LA or bust so that caused the Spurs to not be able to negotiate great returns... AD also said LA or bust... Both were traded in the summer... How the do u guys keep trying to ignore the fact that our FO got destroyed in those negotiations? We got a player and a draft pick... These other teams got great YOUNG talents and a ton of future picks...all from players that said LA or bust.. We got jobbed
    ANGER

    I agree with you... Once the Spurs did whatever they did to him, then compounded it by all the media bashing they did, there was no coming back for Kawhi... It's like we want our players to have Stockholm syndrome
    BARGAINING


    well, you are making progree bro.. good fo ya

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    The claim was that Kawhi said LA or bust so that caused the Spurs to not be able to negotiate great returns... AD also said LA or bust... Both were traded in the summer... How the do u guys keep trying to ignore the fact that our FO got destroyed in those negotiations? We got a player and a draft pick... These other teams got great YOUNG talents and a ton of future picks...all from players that said LA or bust.. We got jobbed
    Context matters.

    Kawhi didn't play for a whole year, so there were a TON of questions about his health. That didn't help his trade value. AD's issues are for more explicable.

    More importantly, Magic and Rob Pelinka were on a high last year; they were convinced that they could just get him in FA, and that PG13 was just a fluke. Fast forward to a year full of dysfunction, with sudden resignations and the observation that they were, at best, a distant 3rd in the Kawhi-sweepstakes going into the offseason: they were in a FAR more desperate situation, so they were willing to part with more to get AD.

    Not to mention that the Lakers young players depreciated in value in their eyes. I remember them not being willing to give up Brandon Ingram in a Kawhi deal, lol.

    In your zeal to blame this on PATFO, you have failed to take the important context of the two situations into account.

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    Sooo… Kawhi went to the Clippers because he was trying to spread the talent around the league, and not give himself the best chance to win B2B with different teams? He passed on an extra $40M that the Raps could have given him, and he passed on playing for a stacked Lakers super-team - all so that he could protect the balance of power in the league?

    He's like some kind of saint. Maybe even a god. I mean, if I wasn't a god myself, I might even bow down to him.
    No, that was not his main motivation, but it is a byproduct of his decision. I'm just saying the league will be more entertaining now than if he had joined the Lakers. Good decision Kawhi.

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    I wouldn't say he gave us a championship.... He gave Toronto a championship. We had multiple championships before him ...

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    Is that a trans sticking up for him?

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    The claim was that Kawhi said LA or bust so that caused the Spurs to not be able to negotiate great returns... AD also said LA or bust... Both were traded in the summer... How the do u guys keep trying to ignore the fact that our FO got destroyed in those negotiations? We got a player and a draft pick... These other teams got great YOUNG talents and a ton of future picks...all from players that said LA or bust.. We got jobbed
    Completely different situations but I suspect you know that. Kawhi didn’t play for a year and his injury didn’t require surgery and really nobody knew what was wrong with him. We do know that the Celtics didn’t even offer Jaylen ing Brown. The 76ers wouldn’t even offer Fultz and the Lakers only offered Bradon Ingram (who is a taller version of DeRozan at best). We also couldn’t hold Kawhi to showcase that he was healthy bc his uncle said Kawhi would sit out the next year if we didn’t trade him. We were lucky to even get the Toronto offer tbh. Of the 4 situations, which team would you have traded him to? Keep in mind Magic Johnson literally said in live TV that he didn’t offer the same package for Kawhi that he did for AD so bringing up AD to begin with is ridiculous.

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    Is that a trans sticking up for him?
    paging Spurtacular for his preferred fap material, if true

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    Is that a trans sticking up for him?

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    This is pretty much what I knew all along. He was injured but then he used that as a pretext to bail out and faked it the rest of the way.

    Guys - a #1 player and FMVP moving to another team less than a month after winning a ring with red carpet treatment, etc. for less money has never happened before. Nothing Toronto could have done and nothing the Spurs could have done.

    He ed the Spur's valuable trade opportunities when he spoke up about moving only to LA. He seemed to be alright playing for Toronto. It was all FAKE.

    You re ed people who are in DENIAL, are in DENIAL!!

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    The fact that Leonard waited to consider his options, instead of immediately declaring his choice to go to LA, vitiates the OP's thesis.
    Leonard to LA was not inevitable.
    To say that Spurs are vindicated is self-serving.
    I hope the Spurs can learn from this experience.
    Sorry man - not on this one. Going to LA was inevitable - it has been for many years now. I recall that's true back in 2015 rumors started that KL was going to reject the super max if offered. People in denial came up with fake news that the Spurs weren't planning to offer max when it was the other way around

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    all i know the spurms patfo shouldve taken the clippers offer whatever it was... harris 1yr rental + 15+16th picks is still fkn better then ddr the fkn scrub, had the spurs did last season with the rental it be part of the tanking for higher picks

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