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    I'm highest on White of any of the young guys but, man, I'd have to do DeRozan + White for Beal. That fixes any spacing issues and then you're Dejounte-Murray-becoming-a-star away from a championship, IMO.
    I'm just really really high on White. To me it's not a matter of "if", it's just a matter of when DeRozan gets the out for White to become a borderline all-star.

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    Admittedly I've paid little attention to the Wizards. Any reason they'd ditch Beal with two years left?

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    If we were interested in a move for Beal; would be weird to complete 2 separate trades with them since we just did a Bertans?

    I feel like if we were interested in Beal it would’ve happened with Bertans in the package

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    Admittedly I've paid little attention to the Wizards. Any reason they'd ditch Beal with two years left?
    Because giving John Wall that contract ruined any chance of them being relevant in the next 5 years and Beal is the only asset they have.

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    Maybe you could try for Beal with Murray, White or Walker plus Mills and Bellinelli and pick? [Assuming that Wizards are looking to move on and free up near term cap room] Still, if Beal was being shopped I'd imagine they would find a better deal than the Spurs could put together.
    A big part of the Beal/DeRozan swap win would be getting past the DeRozan era, tbh.

    A Murray, Beal, DeRozan, Morris, Aldridge lineup wouldn't be as good as a Murray, White, Beal, Morris, Aldridge lineup.

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    Admittedly I've paid little attention to the Wizards. Any reason they'd ditch Beal with two years left?
    Payroll. No one will take Wall's bloated deal.

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    Because giving John Wall that contract ruined any chance of them being relevant in the next 5 years and Beal is the only asset they have.
    Spurs then likely don't have a shot if the Wizards are looking for the best return as opposed to finding a team to take a large contract.

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    Spurs then likely don't have a shot if the Wizards are looking for the best return as opposed to finding a team to take a large contract.
    Yeah, the Spurs would be easily outbid unless the Wiz were just in love with one of the young guys. Derozan holds little value, especially to a team like Washington tbh.

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    Pistons,heat,rockets names keep coming up.spurs rumors seem to have died down for now
    I Imagine cause they want The Spurs whole young core plus derozen

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    Spurs then likely don't have a shot if the Wizards are looking for the best return as opposed to finding a team to take a large contract.
    DeRozan's virtual expiring + 2 of the youngsters + 2 future 1st round picks. I think that could be something the Wizardz consider. I mean, it's more than what we got for Kawhi ing Leonard.

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    Time for this thread to close? changing to a Beal thread now

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    Derozan holds little value, especially to a team like Washington tbh.
    I seriously wonder if Toronto would want him back. They instantly return to a Top 4 Eastern team (admittedly one that will flame out in the playoffs) and he's beloved there. But, I can't imagine the Spurs would want anything but Siakam. And that ain't happening.

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    I seriously wonder if Toronto would want him back. They instantly return to a Top 4 Eastern team (admittedly one that will flame out in the playoffs) and he's beloved there. But, I can't imagine the Spurs would want anything but Siakam. And that ain't happening.
    Yeah, the only one I'd ever want from them is Siakam. But as you said, Masai is probably beyond happy that he was able to offload Derozaon regardless if they won the le or not.

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    why not trade ddr to knicks for whatever picks?

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    DeRozan's virtual expiring + 2 of the youngsters + 2 future 1st round picks. I think that could be something the Wizardz consider. I mean, it's more than what we got for Kawhi ing Leonard.
    DeRozan and Beal's contracts are nearly identical, doesn't change anything for them with respect to cap space unless we are to believe DeRozan opts out next summer for whatever reason. You'd have to offer at least one unprotected 1st rounder if not more and White, Murray, or Walker.

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    DeRozan and Beal's contracts are nearly identical, doesn't change anything for them with respect to cap space unless we are to believe DeRozan opts out next summer for whatever reason. You'd have to offer at least one unprotected 1st rounder if not more and White, Murray, or Walker.
    Yeah, well, pretty much what I said.

    I would do that, tbh.

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    I seriously wonder if Toronto would want him back. They instantly return to a Top 4 Eastern team (admittedly one that will flame out in the playoffs) and he's beloved there. But, I can't imagine the Spurs would want anything but Siakam. And that ain't happening.
    Anunoby + Marc

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    Russ leaving OKC to play with PG-lite.

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    Miami is the only team that makes sense tbh....

    Riles has been star desperate since LeBron left, they don't really even care if it means they're a 6th-7th seed for the next 5 years....

    Russ can get paid stupid money to wear some of the gayest you can imagine down in South Beach....win/win tbh.....

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    Dragic/JamesJohnson/Winslow for Russ. Easy peezy.

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    Yeah, Westbrook to the Heat makes too much sense. Riles never passes up the opportunity to acquire a star who is nearing the end of the rope.

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    But what if dd opts in I mean he’s unlikely to get paid more that 27.5 mill .. it’s possible he doesn’t opt out

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    The Pelicans can probably beat any offer for Beal if/when he (inevitably?) becomes available. The only chance the Spurs would have of even entering the sweepstakes, is for Murray and/or White to flash star potential next season (Walker more than likely won't play enough to have the opportunity).

    I'd be willing to give up DeRozan, 1 of Murray or White and 2 of Walker and future 1sts.

    DeRozan is irrelevant and this team has built up enough depth of youth to where they could afford to sacrifice 3 young assets for a player who checks as many boxes as him.

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    I don't think Butler and Westbrook is a good fit if he goes to Heat. I don't see it working, going to be lots of bricks thrown up in the air.

    It doesn't seem like the Spurs are expressing any interest in Westbrook so far.

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    But what if dd opts in I mean he’s unlikely to get paid more that 27.5 mill .. it’s possible he doesn’t opt out
    Next summer supposedly is a weak free agent class, potentially able to get a larger next contract then rather than in 2021. I'd be surprised but you never know.

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