Marco Belinelli plus someone else possibly going to be traded

[cd98]

I'm saying for Morris. And this is really bad for Klutch. An agency needs to maintain its reputation. This move is potentially cataclysmic. I'm not sure anything will happen yet, but right now it's a sudden fault line across the NBA.

I think Klutch sports has enjoyed some power in this league because LeBron wielded so much power. But in the near future, that might not be the case. I mean, they still represent stars, but there are only a handful of stars that teams are going to slobber over. Once LeBron is gone (and he is already in decline), they won't have the same sway in the league. So I think it does behoove them not to damage their reputation. And maybe they are trying to talk Morris out of it. But they have a contractual duty to Morris, not the Spurs. They have to act in his best interest, not theirs. If Morris wants the extra 5 million for one more year, Klutch has no choice.

[cd98]

I don’t see how the Knicks didn’t do something illegal. Unless they can prove that Marcus Morris reached our first. What’s to stop another team from saying “I see you reached a deal yesterday for 30 million, we’ll give you 35 million for the same amount of years”. I think the easy solution is for madam Silver to say the Knicks can’t sign him this year and make Morris a free agent and leave it up to Morris and Spurs whether they want to go forward with their deal.

Nothing would be illegal unless there is a law in New York of some federal law that prohibits interfering with a contract negotiations. It's probably just clouds deals during free agency even more and opens the door to teams acting more cutthroat.

[SpursDynasty85]

What doesn’t make sense with all the news we’re hearing is why would Belinelli need to be traded for a free agent if we spurs thought Morris might back out of his deal??

Belli always needed to be traded. IMO Spurs want to save face after this debacle. Spurs fans and the whole organization is disappointed this guy backed out. After getting excited with real "championship" hopes to go into the season with a worse team than one we thought just 3 days ago is deflating, especially after the Kawhi debacle. Belli was probably always on the table once PATFO thought Walker needed minutes this year (clearly he does). Belli would want to play for a team that gave him minutes this season I'm sure. Bertans kind of was always on the table too probably. PLus we have the FULL MLE to use still.

[ZeusWillJudge]

You can blame the league for allowing these "unwritten agreements". It's a ed up system, especially because of all the artificial deadlines.

[Dverde]

Nothing would be illegal unless there is a law in New York of some federal law that prohibits interfering with a contract negotiations. It's probably just clouds deals during free agency even more and opens the door to teams acting more cutthroat.

Madam Silver needs to slit this deal. You can’t reward the Knicks for reaching unprofessional lows or set a precedent I mentioned where announced deals become leverage for better deals. It helps it’s the Knicks and everyone hates Dolan.

[cd98]

Madam Silver needs to slit this deal. You can’t reward the Knicks for reaching unprofessional lows or set a precedent I mentioned where announced deals become leverage for better deals. It helps it’s the Knicks and everyone hates Dolan.

Well, they've never interfered before unless it was a team run by the league (NO and Chris Paul trade to Lakers). This is a player friendly move and the league is more player friendly than owner friendly now a day.

[EricB]

You can blame the league for allowing these "unwritten agreements". It's a ed up system, especially because of all the artificial deadlines.

Disagree. Doesn’t absolve the player from being a .

[ZeusWillJudge]

Disagree. Doesn’t absolve the player from being a .

Morris and his agent are bags. There's no absolution for that.

But you can blame the league for creating and keeping a system where teams are forced to do business like this. Morris is a bag, but it shouldn't be possible for him to exercise it in this way.

[r0drig0lac]

Nah. Nobody cares about this defection except the Spurs. And the rest of the league rejoices when SA gets screwed.

[Keepin' it real]

This will definitely have a ripple effect.

Exactly, just like the Deandre Jordan fiasco.

[SpursDynasty85]

Exactly, just like the Deandre Jordan fiasco.

That was one ripple, this is another... I'm definitely riled and might be overreacting but it's only a matter of time before NBA will clamp down on this kind of stuff because it just brings chaos to the whole league.

[ZeusWillJudge]

This will definitely have a ripple effect.

It's $10M. The league spent over $3B on the first day of free agency. Silver doesn't mind. The big market teams are fine with it, since they're the ones most likely to benefit. If there are any ripples, they will be very small ripples in a very small pond.

[SpursDynasty85]

It's $10M. The league spent over $3B on the first day of free agency. Silver doesn't mind. The big market teams are fine with it, since they're the ones most likely to benefit. If there are any ripples, they will be very small ripples in a very small pond.

At the very least teams, owners, and players will have more distrust of one another and how free agency is used and works could be even more chaotic. Stars demanding trades and flipping organizations into rebuild mode is "Crazy" in most other industries and markets. NBA market is obviously much different than others but owners and management of course will fight for more stability while Players and agents will fight for more power to do as they please. I think the fact these contracts are FULLY-guaranteed is already lost on these players. Which industry can gaurantee you millions for work you can't do because of injury or disruption?

Besides when teams mess with a players health (not saying Spurs did that to Kawhi but just in general humane purposes), players screwing over there teams is messed up. Way more so than being traded. The amount of money most players make, you can always make a situation work in any city. Putting a franchise into rebuilding mode can cost the organization, the city, and works of those teams and cities to lose jobs and affect way more people than players being traded without there consent.

[Mr. Body]

I think Klutch sports has enjoyed some power in this league because LeBron wielded so much power. But in the near future, that might not be the case. I mean, they still represent stars, but there are only a handful of stars that teams are going to slobber over. Once LeBron is gone (and he is already in decline), they won't have the same sway in the league. So I think it does behoove them not to damage their reputation. And maybe they are trying to talk Morris out of it. But they have a contractual duty to Morris, not the Spurs. They have to act in his best interest, not theirs. If Morris wants the extra 5 million for one more year, Klutch has no choice.

What's cool for Klutch is that they can get the Knicks to flip Morris over to the Lakers during the season for LeBron.

[Extra Stout]

I think the fact these contracts are FULLY-guaranteed is already lost on these players. Which industry can gaurantee you millions for work you can't do because of injury or disruption?

Fully guaranteed contracts are toast in the next CBA. At the least, a whole season will be lost to the lockout the owners will impose to achieve that.

The players of the mid-2020’s will pay the price for what the players of today are doing now.

[Dejounte]

Any updates with this trade?

[Prime BEEF]

Fully guaranteed contracts are toast in the next CBA. At the least, a whole season will be lost to the lockout the owners will impose to achieve that.

The players of the mid-2020’s will pay the price for what the players of today are doing now.

Yup. Totally agree

[CGD]

Whose even left as a back up plan?

[phxspurfan]

There are consequences. You don't do that to certain companies especially when you know the company had to use a lot of money and move other people around for you. You think that company would ever interview you again? Evidently Spurs are someone they are fine with messing with. This will definitely have a ripple effect.

Not saying it won't be disappointing or may not be met with bad blood, but who tf cares. I've seen people not show up for work before, after accepting an offer. Also have seen my company (current and past) reneg on a job offer on an employee in training because the headcount went away. 's real in the field and it's just business.

[SpursDynasty85]

Fully guaranteed contracts are toast in the next CBA. At the least, a whole season will be lost to the lockout the owners will impose to achieve that.

The players of the mid-2020’s will pay the price for what the players of today are doing now.

There are some other things that can and should be given to all potential NBA players besides fully-guaranteed contracts, letting teams sign whoever they want at almost any age the way soccer in Europe is done. Fully-guaranteed contracts are too harsh for teams but for kids and young prospects living in the ghetto should be able to help their families early and get early education from these teams including finance classes, etc. These guys are left to try and make it to age 19 in the very rough cir stances and then they get wooed by dirty agents and corporations that just want to exploit them with girls and money.

[SpursDynasty85]

Not saying it won't be disappointing or may not be met with bad blood, but who tf cares. I've seen people not show up for work before, after accepting an offer. Also have seen my company (current and past) reneg on a job offer on an employee in training because the headcount went away. 's real in the field and it's just business.

Yea I get it. Glad you have the right mindset. But there are only like 29 other NBA employers and I AM SO EMOTIONAL!! lol

[phxspurfan]

Yea I get it. Glad you have the right mindset. But there are only like 29 other NBA employers and I AM SO EMOTIONAL!! lol

It's not like this is Tim Duncan we're talking about here. We'll be just fine without his knucklehead Knicks limelight/money grubbing ass if he chooses to leave. And if he chooses to stay we should boo him for being an idiot publicly.

[Mr. Body]

Guessing it's Trey Lyles or bust at this point. There's a major gap in the lineup now.

[GreekSpursfan]

It's not like this is Tim Duncan we're talking about here. We'll be just fine without his knucklehead Knicks limelight/money grubbing ass if he chooses to leave. And if he chooses to stay we should boo him for being an idiot publicly.

We should ignore his existence completely. Why boo a role player? him.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

At the very least teams, owners, and players will have more distrust of one another and how free agency is used and works could be even more chaotic. Stars demanding trades and flipping organizations into rebuild mode is "Crazy" in most other industries and markets. NBA market is obviously much different than others but owners and management of course will fight for more stability while Players and agents will fight for more power to do as they please. I think the fact these contracts are FULLY-guaranteed is already lost on these players. Which industry can gaurantee you millions for work you can't do because of injury or disruption?

Besides when teams mess with a players health (not saying Spurs did that to Kawhi but just in general humane purposes), players screwing over there teams is messed up. Way more so than being traded. The amount of money most players make, you can always make a situation work in any city. Putting a franchise into rebuilding mode can cost the organization, the city, and works of those teams and cities to lose jobs and affect way more people to than players being traded without there consent.

This is what happens when you let the inmates run the prison.