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    RIF.

    What's overblown is those tantruming and thinking the Spurs should trade away Murray because he's a Klutch client. That is overblown, clearly.

    At least wait until Morris completes the reneging before you start calling for Murray's head, tbh.

    Wait till something has actually happened before organizing the lynchin' party. That's always a good policy.

    But instead of getting rid of Murray, maybe the Spurs should strongly suggest that he get a new agency. I wonder of Klutch would think that was over the line?

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    First off, the league would never do jack to the Knicks. It's not like it could do anything that the Knicks organization hasn't done to itself. Not to mention that the payoff by screwing the Spurs over (probably a low 1st round pick from a contender along with scraps to make the money work at best in a trade deadline deal for Morris) is low relative to pissing off another franchise you may want to do business with in the future. But, alas, they are the Knicks and they've spent free agency signing 5 different power forwards after reportedly not even offering the max to Durant.

    Next, if a player is going to bail after giving his word then not someone you can trust on your team. The black and silver lining is even if he backed up his commitment he'd probably be gone next summer, but at least that would've been a season. Now the Spurs have to dig deep into the bargain bin, or pull off a trade and give up value to fill the spot.

    And, how can you not fault Morris' reps? Not a good look continuing to shop a deal for a player after you've reached an agreement with a team. Murray having the same reps is a concern and could very well impact how they approach future decisions involving him. Fool me once....

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    RIF.

    What's overblown is those tantruming and thinking the Spurs should trade away Murray because he's a Klutch client. That is overblown, clearly.

    At least wait until Morris completes the reneging before you start calling for Murray's head, tbh.
    We aren’t calling for Dejounte’s head. Essentially the entire fanbase loves him and wants him to be the future. It’s just he needs to realize his agency, despite not messing with his contract, is negatively impacting his team and his career with a weaker supporting cast by non respectable/ethical business activities

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    How the fck is this murrays fault

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    No one's said that.

    Uhhh lots of people said that earlier in this thread.

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    RIF.

    What's overblown is those tantruming and thinking the Spurs should trade away Murray because he's a Klutch client. That is overblown, clearly.

    At least wait until Morris completes the reneging before you start calling for Murray's head, tbh.
    Oh - if that is the angle absolutely. But I am talking about the real damage and real backhandedness of this agency. Sure, it’s always been SORT OF a thing with power broker agents but this is next level colluding and harm.

    This has nothing to do with Murray but it would be powerful if Murray stood up for SA here and changed representation

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    Lamond Murray part two.

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    No one's said that.
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    Yes they have. Read the thread. Let me know if you want me to provide quotes

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    I was onboard with the signing only because Morris had a pretty decent year for Boston last year but meh. The dude isn’t a game changer and who knows how he would fit on this team’s structured style of play.

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    Honest question

    IF this is a power move from Morris to get a roster spot for his childhood friend Thomas Robinson over Eubanks,what do you do?

    a)Tell him to go himself?

    b)Tell him to go himself all the way to NY?

    c)Tell him to go himself and then cut Robinson from the SL team?

    d)All of the above,with another Morris as a goodbye note?

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    Yes they have. Read the thread. Let me know if you want me to provide quotes
    Good luck with the “search” feature.

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    Should aggressively puruse covington tbh.

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    How the fck is this murrays fault

    It's not Murray's fault. That's why I said - tell Murray that it's going to be hard for the team to work with him going forward, if they have to go through an agency that they fundamentally cannot trust. "We know you're a trustworthy person, DeJounte. So we know you don't want to be associated with that kind of dishonesty."

    Paul would go screaming to Silver in minutes, demanding that he take some kind of action.

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    I think Morris is gone. As others have mentioned, you have to question whether you would still want him on the team after this anyway. I think the team must think they have a chance of still signing him if they haven’t moved on. I would think they would have moved quickly before the pool of free agents gets even worse.

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    They have. People are posting like crazy past 4 hours. You probably missed it. Overreacting to TIMVP's reaction, tbh.
    Like what, two people? Criticism of Klutch is natural, even vital. Timvp was saying that it's not. He's trying to walk back his statement and it's not working. He was wrong.

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    So, as far as player empowerment goes, I don't mind it honestly. Yeah it sucks when it doesn't work out for the team, but honestly I'd rather the NBA players have the power than some rich white owner. What Kawhi did was ed and ty, but owners have done far worse. So have GMs. Isiah Thomas anyone?

    That being said, there needs to be enforcement of tampering rules. I'm not sure if this falls into that category as its still unclear if Morris is going to reneg and whether or not it was suggested and put forth by his agency or whether or not he's just being an asshole who's word doesn't mean .

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    Like what, two people? Criticism of Klutch is natural, even vital. Timvp was saying that it's not. He's trying to walk back his statement and it's not working. He was wrong.
    Yeah sounds just like vintage Timvp. Just walking back because he mouths off so much. Pick your battles. This one is ing stupid.

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    So, as far as player empowerment goes, I don't mind it honestly. Yeah it sucks when it doesn't work out for the team, but honestly I'd rather the NBA players have the power than some rich white owner. What Kawhi did was ed and ty, but owners have done far worse. So have GMs. Isiah Thomas anyone?

    That being said, there needs to be enforcement of tampering rules. I'm not sure if this falls into that category as its still unclear if Morris is going to reneg and whether or not it was suggested and put forth by his agency or whether or not he's just being an asshole who's word doesn't mean .

    libs..always gotta play the race card...sad

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    So, as far as player empowerment goes, I don't mind it honestly. Yeah it sucks when it doesn't work out for the team, but honestly I'd rather the NBA players have the power than some rich white owner. What Kawhi did was ed and ty, but owners have done far worse. So have GMs. Isiah Thomas anyone?

    That being said, there needs to be enforcement of tampering rules. I'm not sure if this falls into that category as its still unclear if Morris is going to reneg and whether or not it was suggested and put forth by his agency or whether or not he's just being an asshole who's word doesn't mean .
    This is absurd. It’s one thing to be about player empowerment, and another to turn the other cheek when a deal is reneged. This wasn’t some tentative contract they agreed to - it had terms, salary, and a duration. There’s a coloravle argument that it’s an enforceable contract despite being verbal. “Player empowerment” here looks no different than Player X saying I wanna play somewhere else in the middle of his deal.

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    So, as far as player empowerment goes, I don't mind it honestly. Yeah it sucks when it doesn't work out for the team, but honestly I'd rather the NBA players have the power than some rich white owner. What Kawhi did was ed and ty, but owners have done far worse. So have GMs. Isiah Thomas anyone?

    That being said, there needs to be enforcement of tampering rules. I'm not sure if this falls into that category as its still unclear if Morris is going to reneg and whether or not it was suggested and put forth by his agency or whether or not he's just being an asshole who's word doesn't mean .
    If this were the nfl I’d buy the rich white owner stuff, but nba players have it better than anyone and there needs to be balance and it’s tipped wayyyyy to far at the moment and causing real harm.

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    Should aggressively puruse covington tbh.
    bertans would have been a nice piece to have

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    No one's said that.
    Like what, two people?
    He's trying to walk back his statement
    Heh.

    If you disregard the context and want Klutch burnt at the stake, that's fine, tbh. Classify me as wrong if it makes you feel better about this situation

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    Shouldnt the spurs already obtained a verbal commitment from Morris and his agency before trading Bertans? From a legal perspective, a verbal contact as as good as written. I believe there’s is something legally spurs can do ( if they opt to do so).

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