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Makes sense.
To be clear, I think its a move to give your word and then reneg. I just don't know if its a violation of the rules.
I mean I generally feel the owners have more power than the should in all the leagues. I do think there should be balance but I think the balance is skewed in favor of the owners in every sport, including the NBA. Just because the NBA players have the most power out of any sport doesn't mean they have balance. I do think they are much closer to it than any other league, however.
Makes sense.
To be clear, I think its a move to give your word and then reneg. I just don't know if its a violation of the rules.
Nothing would surprise me but I think we go with Ockham's razor and it seems more likely that when the Knicks realized they had a problem and the remaining uncommitted free agent pool was they looked at who had yet to sign their contract.
Are the players not rich or something? The most influential ones, who are also the ones usually driving the player empowerment movement have a net worth of hundreds of millions. They're little divas that flock to the big market coast cities, ing over fans like us on the inland. Being more sympathetic to their cause is stupid since the divide between the players and us average joes is probably bigger than the divide between the players and owners.
Also, I don't care what some piece of GM or owner did. To do what Nephew and Morris have done to a first class organization is beyond ed up. To me "player empowerment" doesn't encompass ing over honorable men like Pop and RC.
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Seems like a bit of colluding to me. Spurs behind the scenes surely will point this out. The clear conflict of interest is Paul as the agent of lebron. Spurs did everything correctly in good faith and with in the rules.
Have no doubt this why the spurs are staying quiet.
Yeah, I can't imagine every FO in the league hasn't noticed this, even if he does resign. And I can imagine Silver is in communication with his people as we speak. Timvp continues to be very wrong on this issue.
Okay, but if Morris still signs, what's the big deal? I get saying that it sucks he may not come over, but it's foolish to think this would really go with him if he ends up sticking to the script. Plus, you know he'd be a good player for the team given that he turned down so much money to play for SA. If his goal were just to coast on money, he'd go to NYK. If he goes to the Spurs, it'll be because he wants to play for a good team, win games and show off his worth in a strong system. That's actually more than I was expecting from him going into this.
Some stars have power. But a lot of members of the players union aren't on max deals. Lockouts usually don't work out for either side, but the owners would be able to apply some real pressure.
I love KU but the Morris twins have been ed up since day 1 in the NBA.
This is all on Pop and RC. ing things up....
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Yeah my bad. Was trying to respond to a post saying Murray should drop Paul immediately to not lose face with the Spurs.
Wtf? Murray hasn’t done yet. Dude has to ball first. Dfs in here want to max out someone who hasn’t proved
Well, only insofar as it covers such issues. It's not like the NBA becomes a fiefdom unto itself. Labor and contract law still apply.
Sure - makes sense and I said it will likely blow over. But SA know what he did and the fact that it even happened is pretty damaging. But if it’s all for not, people likely have short memories I guess. Fans are pissed though
You're not wrong, but a lot of the players area also generating a lot of money from other places. People make fun of Murray's instagram presence, but that's probably generating him actual money. The lockout pressure won't be as strong. Doesn't mean it still won't be effective for the owners, but its also now as sure a thing as it was before.
too much common sense in this statement
The Spurs have whatever remedy the CBA affords them. Or, they could pick up the phone and move on.
Right. You can’t have a CBA providing for murder-for-hire contracts. It’s still subject to the law, but provides for an additional regime governing how employment issues are handled
It goes with him because he's looking for another deal after this one. Who thinks he'll be negotiating in good faith? For Klutch, this is even more damaging. There's a reason why Pelinka dropped Boozer after that fiasco: he needed to be seen as working in good faith. There was that dude where his agent's office failed to turn in a form and cost him millions of dollars. They paid him themselves. There's a reason why good faith and word of honor are extremely important.
One thing is for certain, it does suck when players do this type of thing to the Spurs because the Spurs are at the forefront of enabling players not holding them back. Morris could have probably been upfront with Pop instead of missing the physical and the Spurs wouldn't have been upset. I mean they let Korver back out of a deal.
Fully expect this thread to be 60 pages when I wake up tomorrow. Hopefully with news he signed with us. Won’t lose any sleep over it though.
Yeah, it will be bad if he leaves. The biggest issue is that the Knicks aren't likely to even have a good spot for Morris. They would have just signed him to sign somebody, and doing so in such an underhanded way would stick in many people's craws. Like if the Lakers had signed him after Kawhi picked LAC because they all of the sudden had cap space and needed good players, that makes sense. The Knicks had a ton of front-court players they signed just this year. They didn't need another one, especially on a one-year deal.
Reactions in this thread generally seem to be assuming he's gone. But after thought, I'd agree with you that if he signs then it'll be a blip.
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