Woj: Marcus Morris Reneging on Agreement with Spurs?

[Fusternino]

MLE has a hard limit, tbh.

[Hyperhypo]

MLE has a hard limit, tbh.

I realized that right after I made that post. thx

[duncan2k5]

Timvp is wrong on this issue.

I hate them too... They get away with murder in the league

[duncan2k5]

There are a lot of teams with Spurs ties in the front office, lots of teams aren't going to trust Morris or RP

U think other teams give a f*ck? If they feel like a player will make them win, they'll throw all the money at them... Look what happened when the AD deal didn't go through... They got all parties involved the outta there

[monty4329]

The only thing that the Spurs could've done different was hold off on the trade of Bertans and hold off on signing Carroll on that three year deal until Morris actually signed his contract.

Why? Spurs FO is honorable people. They had an agreement, they followed through.
The piece of here is Klutch, hope there will be revenge on PATFO side.

[duncan2k5]

Morris playing a season in SA getting solid starting minutes on a playoff team would position him very well for free agency next summer. He got lost in the shuffle this season with so many names hitting the market.

Yes, the reported gross contract offer is substantially higher, but the take home difference is less. Getting crap minutes for a team doesn't seem like the best approach in a contract year, but hey, he got paid more today.

On the flip side, many ppl think playing for the Spurs puts a cap on what you're allowed to do and the stats u can achieve

[monty4329]

Any chance he still ends up signing with the Spurs?

I hope not now.

[SouthTexasRancher]

NBA Commissioner Adam "Small Plastic Balls" Silver has lost control of the NBA. People like KaWhitter, Uncle, Lea'Bron'e and Marcus Morris's agent are running the league. I wouldn't want Morris at this point. But, if Silver wants to get control of the NBA back he should step up and grow a pair of balls as big as David Stern's were when Stern knocked the crap out of the Minnesota Timberwolves for signing Joe Smith to an illegal contract. If I remember correctly he took 4 or 5 first round picks away, fined them several million dollars and I think he went after their owner and did a number on him and some front office jerk. Silver should do the same damn thing to the NY Knicks. Then we'll see if this kind of happens again any time soon. Silver could send us Julius Randle and make the Knicks pay the difference in Randle's larger contract and the head quitter asshole, Marcus Morris' contract. Then suspend MM for a year. Throw in a couple of future draft picks and this crap will stop dead in its tracks. PATFO should never have sent Davis Bertans to Washington in the first place w/o a signed contract with Morris. Giving Demarre Carroll an extra year doesn't bother me. I think he'll provide some decent minutes for us.

you Marcus Morris and your New York Small s. Your sorry ass belongs there.

[Uriel]

If there’s anyone we should be blaming for this debacle, it’s Reggie Bullock for failing his physical, which is the whole reason why the Knicks suddenly have the cap space to sign Morris in the first place.

[Spurtacular]

38 pages in 14 hours? That some kind of record?

[venitian navigator]

The point is that the agreement was made...to the point that Morris agency (clutch) made it public.
So ther's evidence to this.
Once the agreement is made, verbal or written, in most legal systems you have obligations...bacause the negotiations are already over for the main points and remains just for the details that will be translated in the final contract. But usually in most legal systems there are consequences also if your conduct in negotiations is unfair...in Italy its called pre-contractual responsability...and also this leads to consequences and sanctions...

[monty4329]

NBA Commissioner Adam "Small Plastic Balls" Silver has lost control of the NBA. People like KaWhitter, Uncle, Lea'Bron'e and Marcus Morris's agent are running the league. I wouldn't want Morris at this point. But, if Silver wants to get control of the NBA back he should step up and grow a pair of balls as big as David Stern's were when Stern knocked the crap out of the Minnesota Timberwolves for signing Joe Smith to an illegal contract. If I remember correctly he took 4 or 5 first round picks away, fined them several million dollars and I think he went after their owner and did a number on him and some front office jerk. Silver should do the same damn thing to the NY Knicks. Then we'll see if this kind of happens again any time soon. Silver could send us Julius Randle and make the Knicks pay the difference in Randle's larger contract and the head quitter asshole, Marcus Morris' contract. Then suspend MM for a year. Throw in a couple of future draft picks and this crap will stop dead in its tracks. PATFO should never have sent Davis Bertans to Washington in the first place w/o a signed contract with Morris. Giving Demarre Carroll an extra year doesn't bother me. I think he'll provide some decent minutes for us.

you Marcus Morris and your New York Small s. Your sorry ass belongs there.

Knicks have nothing to do with it. They were certainly approached by Klutch after Bullock didn't pass the physical. Paul probably told them he never promised anything to the Spurs, on the contrary bla bla bla.

Morris should be suspended and Klutch/Paul/LBJ stripped of agency privileges.

[r0drig0lac]

U think other teams give a f*ck? If they feel like a player will make them win, they'll throw all the money at them... Look what happened when the AD deal didn't go through... They got all parties involved the outta there

agree

[Dhbsr555]

My concern now isn’t Morris but Murray and that they will do everything and anything for him to not resign with us

[Mr. Body]

Knicks have nothing to do with it. They were certainly approached by Klutch after Bullock didn't pass the physical. Paul probably told them he never promised anything to the Spurs, on the contrary bla bla bla.

Morris should be suspended and Klutch/Paul/LBJ stripped of agency privileges.

What the Knicks are doing, going after an already committed player, is definitely unprofessional and unethical.

[Harry Callahan]

The point is that the agreement was made...to the point that Morris agency (clutch) made it public.
So ther's evidence to this.
Once the agreement is made, verbal or written, in most legal systems you have obligations...bacause the negotiations are already over for the main points and remains just for the details that will be translated in the final contract. But usually in most legal systems there are consequences also if your conduct in negotiations is unfair...in Italy its called pre-contractual responsability...and also this leads to consequences and sanctions...

Lender Liability cases happen all the time where the affected party was negatively impacted by the actions of a lender (deal does not get to the finish line for one reason or another). Adam Silver is an attorney and knows what is going on right now is bad for his business model. He should quietly go to the affected parties and say - "MM you and your Reps committed to SA" "its a done deal" "go there for a year". Stern was not afraid to at least pretend that he cared about the LEAGUE AS A WHOLE.

Silver is more of a passive SJW who will not cross a poor, downtrodden player who has made more money in his eight year NBA career 99.999% of the people posting on this forum will in their lifetimes. Silver's continuing passivity will make it that much harder for the majority of teams to do its business in the NBA.

I'm also wondering if all the wonderful cap room the Spurs will have in two years makes any difference if the NBA Labor situation gets REALLY ugly and we have a lockout shortly after.

I'll be interested in the Spurs as long as I have a pulse, but it is extremely difficult to enjoy the NBA as much given the direction players and owners are taking (OOPs I'm not supposed to use the term owners anymore). Sorry to offend there. Even if the owners own the FRANCHISES not THE PLAYERS who are employed by the franchises.

[monty4329]

What the Knicks are doing, going after an already committed player, is definitely unprofessional and unethical.

I guess they found out too late, I'd bet money they were lied to by Paul

[Hyperhypo]

After some research, Morris stands to make a few mill extra after taxes playing for the Knicks but that should nearly get eaten up in cost of living. Morris can start and play for a playoff team under a hall of fame coach and leave next year (or stay) or he can get lost in an over crowded frontcourt during a tank season for the Knicks

[mo7888]

I keep saying - Oubre is a restricted free agent. Any offer he receives, the Suns have the option to match. There is zero chance that the Spurs can sign him outright. It can't happen.

The ONLY chance would be a sign and trade, and Oubre would pretty much have to be pushing for that to happen. And to give him the kind of salary it would take would pretty much require trading Mills' and Belli's contracts. That sounds great for us, but I can't see any reason why the Suns would be interested. If... IF... Oubre was really pushing to get out of Phoenix, the Suns might listen to deals just to keep from losing him for nothing next year.

Now that the Suns have signed Rubio, there's really no leverage on them. The chance of getting him now is pretty close to zero. Forget about it.

So what is oubres option here? He wants more that the MLE but where's he going to get it? Phoenix has made it clear they don't want to pay it. Unless dallas shifts gears and decides he fits there no more money out there. That leaves oubre with 2 options 1) take the MLE or 2) sign the QO. If theres animosity between he and the suns a S&T is a real possibility here.

[monty4329]

My concern now isn’t Morris but Murray and that they will do everything and anything for him to not resign with us

Well it's up to him now. He can change representation. Plus we don't know yet if we really will want to extend him and for how much money. By season start he wouldn't have played more than a year, we'll see.

[Harry Callahan]

I actually heard this guy talk the other day - maybe during the Summary League. Not impressed with how he carries himself. Money literally grows on trees when you are friends with LeBrick.

[RC_Drunkford]

this will all come down to for how much Reggie Bullock signs. The Knicks have exactly 15 Million in cap space available. If I understand this right they are trying to use the Room-Exception on Reggie Bullock (4.9 Million) instead of signing him with 10 Million of cap space. So if they sign him with the Room Exception Morris is heading to the Knicks, if Bullock demands more and they have to use cap space Morris is coming to San Antonio from what I understand

[Harry Callahan]

The Spurs are in no position to push Paul or his agency around. The influence of Klutch Sports is too pervasive. Any act of retribution against them would be brought back in kind and more. Paul and his group are teflon coated.

As the old saying goes - "You lie down with dogs, you will get fleas".

[mo7888]

this will all come down to for how much Reggie Bullock signs. The Knicks have exactly 15 Million in cap space available. If I understand this right they are trying to use the Room-Exception on Reggie Bullock (4.9 Million) instead of signing him with 10 Million of cap space. So if they sign him with the Room Exception Morris is heading to the Knicks, if Bullock demands more and they have to use cap space Morris is coming to San Antonio from what I understand

Who is Bullock's agent?

[mo7888]

The Spurs are in no position to push Paul or his agency around. The influence of Klutch Sports is too pervasive. Any act of retribution against them would be brought back in kind and more. Paul and his group is teflon coated.

As the old saying goes - "You lie down with dogs, you will get fleas".

I don't buy that. Klutch loses influence as soon as Lebron's game starts to fade. In any event, you don't look for retribution against them. You simply do what's in your best interest and the rest will take care of itself.