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He benefits from Kwahi doing well.
Today Cris Carter says if Kawhi wins a le next year with the Clippers then we have to start questioning if he's better than Duncan or Kobe. Is this dude back on the pipe???
He benefits from Kwahi doing well.
Carter is a ing idiot. Kawhi could possibly surpass Kobe but Duncan? Come on man.
He's on the payroll, dude.
This.
Kobe is slightly overrated and Kawhi the flavor of the month. Neither can match prime Duncan both in terms of on the court, and being the bedrock of the franchise.
Cris Carter, didn't play the sport and honestly has track record for anything more than mindless speculation.
19 years straight playoffs and 5 rings, nuff said
Cris Carter: All he does is catch touchdowns, er, spew bulls*it.
Duncan would have 10+ rings had he joined super teams like today's soft ass stars.
Just take these modern sports media for what they are.
btw Kwa has already surpassed Kobme and neither are anywhere close to Duncan.
People scoffed at me when I said this would become the narrative. Neph wins another ring and the narrative will have him top ten all-time, tbh.
I never thought it would it happen I thought people had more common sense but I guess I was wrong.
Michael Irving is better than chris carter.
Duncan was a beast on both ends of the court right 'out of the gate'. He never shrunk in the playoffs. Never had an Andre Roberson or Matt Barnes caliber player shut him down (or at worst nullify his impact). Carter is pushing historical revisionism at its worst.
Last edited by Phenomanul; 07-18-2019 at 05:28 PM.
How about Kawhi as top 25?
He got people talking about his comments. It's just the media
Nobody in the history of basketball can match Duncan as the bedrock of a franchise. As a player he's top 5, top 7 at worst. But neither Jordan, nor Kobe, nor Kareem or anybody else gave a franchise 19 straight 50 win seasons
You could tell Kawhi was dealing with some leg pain in this last playoffs, even with taking a third of the regular season off. If he doesn't win another le in the next year or two, I doubt he ever will. His wheels will come off fast, which is why I was surprised to see him sign just a 3 year deal. He's in the midst of his fame right now, and people have short-term memories when it comes to greatness sometimes. I mean, LeBron is great, but he's no MJ, and people actually debate their respective places in basketball history.
Plus, the sheep migrate towards the next hot item, and then they tend to migrate away in droves, just as fast. His fame was ramped up by the Raptors run, but it could all be forgotten with an underwhelming Clipper season, or an injury, or maybe even by being outplayed by Paul George.
Imagine if Olajuwon went to the Bulls in the 90s, or Duncan to the Lakers in the early 00s, or Bryant to the Spurs in the mid 00s, etc. They too could have piled up a bunch of meaningless rings.
These divas today are creating scenarios that otherwise wouldn't exist. Take s bag, for example. If him and his sleazebag uncle don't tank his value to such an extreme degree, the senile front office doesn't even contemplate making the trade they ultimately made, in which case the '18-'19 Raptors never exist in the iteration they did and he doesn't win the championship.
Instead, they created the scenario, the Warriors injuries did the rest and now it's been decided that he's on course to be a short list all-timer because the masses only care about the results and not how the sausage was made.
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Kawhi winning another tle as a FMVP puts him above durabetas, and curry of the world, but its hard to put himover Duncan and Kobe.
Kobe and Duncans sheeer volume contribution alone puts them over Kawhi, they also have won more championships.
Duncans 4th and 5th > Kawhis first
Kawhis 2nd and 3rd = TDs 99, 05, 03 run
Same thing with kobe.
But the narrative will have hil at top 10 if he wins with the clippers though
And whatever les he did win as a Spur, while it was his team (despite the media's now second revisionst history, now pretending the '14 Spurs were his team, when before they preteded it was Pop's), would have been far more meaningful than the one he just won or whatever one(s) he might win in the future.
Not because I'm a Spurs fan, but because they would have been organic.
To me, no matter what they do, the likes of Durant and him have disqualified themselves from ever so much as being mentioned in the same breathe as Duncan. They forfeited that possibility by doing what they did.
Kawhi is 28 YO, has only 8250 points in 8 seasons, an amount that Tony Parker exceeded in one less season, and his leg is about to fall off. There is no way he's going to be an all time great. I'd question, long term, if his legacy will be better than Parker's.
The NBA has been slobbering to crown the "Next Michael Jordan" since Jordan retired. Kawhi is just the latest in a long line. If he wins a third ship this season, they'll have their narrative. If he gets hurt again, they'll pretend like they never heard of him.
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