I keep seeing this repeated...If he's so easily replaced why couldn't we replace Splitter for 5 years?
Seriously, most everyone on here has been hoping for a Splitter-esque center since he left, and now we seemingly have a more athletic, younger, healthier version of him and you guys keep saying he's readily replaceable.
I dont get it.
He has zero post game whatsoever. I like his energy and the will to be positive on the court, i don't like his bball IQ especially on defense were he makes unnecessary fouls and gets caught out of position some times. This is the year he needs to show a few more things if he wants to get paid. It depends on the price.
Splitter was essentially replaced by Aldridge, tbh. Or if you're talking about the starting center position, Splitter was replaced by Duncan. Add in Old Gasol and Dedmon in the meantime and I don't think Splitter was missed too much, if at all.
But, yeah, Splitter is a pretty good comparison for Poeltl. Peak Splitter was better than current Poeltl ... but even he wouldn't be worth a ton in today's game. He was one of the best pick-and-roll bigs on the planet but he couldn't do much once removed from Ginobili and Parker.
Prime Splitter while short lived was a great one on one defender as well. His defense against Dirk & LMA was awesome in 2014. Poeltl regularly gets abused against skilled big centers.
Poeltl is much stiffer than Splitter, but a better shotblocker, I think?
Not trying to be argumentative... but isn't that the nature of the PnR? Plus the fact that Tiago got injured the next season and only played 40-something games, and then about 10 the next season? I don't disagree so much with the comparison, but Poeltl is going to be 23 this season. By the time Tiago came to SA, he was almost 28 and had a lot more experience than Poeltl.
I still haven't fallen out of love with a well-run pick and roll, especially against so many teams that don't pay that much attention to defense. This fourth pro season is pretty much make or break, and I think Poeltl will be better than he was last season. I think the Spurs will extend him, at a price that can be swallowed. But I've been wrong before trying to predict what PATFO will do.
Disagree. Tbh.
I don’t see them extending him. They have no incentive to do so when the RFA system is so favorable to in bent teams. They have lately chosen to let the market set the price on their roleplayers RFA and go from there. I like Poltl but don’t see how they treat him any different unless he signs a very very cheap deal.
, tbh.
That's how I see it and how I expect (hope?) how the Spurs see it. I like Poeltl. Good player. But not someone you go too far out of your way to lock up, IMHO.
We sure with the Patty Mills contract that SA won’t rush to this and bid against no one?
That was the gameplan. Let the Joker go crazy but take everyone else out. It was no coincidence, that when Poeltl was on the Floor the Team was much better defensivly. Joker is a great player, he will make his points against everybody. I watched every game. Poeltl was the most consistent of all the spurs. His impact you could see on the Floor.
Jakob has neither of them to PnR with.
Right now i think 3/20 would be ok. (That's about 30th place in Center-Salary in the league where i see him right now)
But it depends if he is allowed to get more attempts per possession. If he is unable to convince his team he is a good way to score (more) baskets he will stay pretty cheap or go even cheaper.
I sure hope not. The guy is average at best. His one or two dunks against low tier teams is not impressive. Having said that, the spurs will give 4 years 80 million.
He is good people people still compare centers to David and Timmy. Almost every Center has problems the first year for what ever reason they have a hard time adjusting to Poops scheme. But I except him to get better and if Poop starts calling back door loop plays his offense numbers will be much better.
When asked what a Jacob Poeltl extension would look like, Steve Kyler of basketball insiders said "No idea... typically agents look at what comparable guys got... 12pts and 11 rebs in San Antonio, and a 17 PER... Myles Turner got 4-year, $72 million on similar numbers - 12pts 7 rebounds. 16.6 PER"
Myles Turner is an elite shot blocker and can knock down 3's. Theyre not really similar.
Steve Kyler of Hoopsworld infamy just makes stuff up, tbh. But this is even bad on Hoopsworld levels. Those numbers aren't based in any sort of reality. As far as I can tell, he is trying to compare Poeltl's per 36 minutes stats to Turner's regular stats
It does seem like a gross overpay to me and this is coming from a guy that thinks he'll get a good bit more than the numbers we are talking about on ST if he hits the open market.Steve Kyler of Hoopsworld infamy just makes stuff up, tbh. But this is even bad on Hoopsworld levels. Those numbers aren't based in any sort of reality. As far as I can tell, he is trying to compare Poeltl's per 36 minutes stats to Turner's regular stats
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That's how I see it and how I expect (hope?) how the Spurs see it. I like Poeltl. Good player. But not someone you go too far out of your way to lock up, IMHO.
I've been trying to figure out what you were getting at with this. It sounds like you don't think Poeltl will sign at a price that you think is justified - so you're saying, "Don't do it," like you did with Tiago? And you think anything above about $6M per would be more than replacement cost. Is that about right?
I think there's a good chance that some team will offer him more than that, partly because that's where the league is now, and partly because there's always a market for Spurs' players. And I agree that chasing a bad deal is a mistake. Boban reportedly tried to talk to Pop about taking less money to stay in SA. I think Poeltl likes it here, and sees more opportunity than he would have on some crap team with cap space. He might take a more reasonable offer to lock down a job here. If not, let him go. He's worth having, I think, but not worth chasing.
And that's just stupid. Like Jabari young suggesting the Spurs might trade Aldridge for Evan Turner's expiring and some other random ballast. These guys get paid to write this crap.
Whatever makes him tradeable down the line if needed
Fck perpoodle is what he is 5/5 but saying he gets anythng more then 10 mil per is beyond re ed
Based on absolutely nothing what so ever.
Dude, for serious? Brain damaged or what?
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