OT: Dadashev almost died in the ring last night

[hater]

RIP, Mad Max, we all prayed for you, and it turned out it was not God's will. Perhaps you had a higher purpose of enlightening all of us still here.




Looks like some really sad combination of cir stances, tbh. He fell unconscious in the ambulance, so he was probably already going by then. They diverted to what people describe as a 2 star hospital and not an L1 trauma center. Hard to call that a mistake since it's the first responders' call, and they were driving on Friday night in likely horrible Washington DC traffic.
They likely chose not to go to another (better/L1 trauma) hospital, and, controversially, that may have also been a factor in whether he lived or died. We all know there's a big difference between medical facilities and quality of care.

But like Max Kellerman said in his interview about the topic, these situations are usually the most difficult to judge because it's typically a combination of 1. a hard, but not devastating puncher as the opponent, and 2. a strong fighter with a great chin who just becomes a little too heroic and doesn't want to quit.

I'd also add that it may be in part due to a weakened state due to losing/gaining all the weigh in weight, leading the fighter's immune system to be sweakened at fight time. I'm not an expert on fight science, but I've always cringed at fighters who have to lose a significant amount of weight to make weight, only to emergency hydrate and get back to full health right before the fight. It should be you weigh what you weigh at a random time before the fight, not 2 guys starving their bodies with diuretics and water, and then one guy ends up being much larger than the other at fight time (is it looked like with Mattias vs. Dadshev).

Also of note, he was fighting for his Green Card, in order to be able to bring his wife stateside. Also really sad was I'm not sure if he hung on long enough for his wife to make it to his bedside. She was slated to arrive Tues. morning, and the news that he was dying was announced by his manager Monday evening.

That's ed up. Was he fighting at the MGM? That's actually in Maryland and there's a ing great hospital across the Potomac in Virginia. Fairfax Hospital. Only 15 min away.

that MGM. They couldn't even afford a ing helicopter ride?

I been to that MGM a couple months ago and it's a hole. Full of hood nigas, it's actually in the middle of the hood and they charge abou $25 a drink in the casino!

Plus that place is cursed imo. A little girl got electrocuted there and died last year and now this.

that cursed place

[phxspurfan]

That's ed up. Was he fighting at the MGM? That's actually in Maryland and there's a ing great hospital across the Potomac in Virginia. Fairfax Hospital. Only 15 min away.

that MGM. They couldn't even afford a ing helicopter ride?

I been to that MGM a couple months ago and it's a hole. Full of hood nigas, it's actually in the middle of the hood and they charge abou $25 a drink in the casino!

Plus that place is cursed imo. A little girl got electrocuted there and died last year and now this.

that cursed place

It sure as was at the MGM. You’re right, they cheaped out by not getting a helicopter to one of the many proper L1 centers in the area.

[hater]

Holy

Almost exactly a year ago

Zynae Green was 6 years old when, while with her family at the MGM National Harbor resort and casino on June 26, she grabbed a "dangerously electrified" staircase railing as she and her siblings made their way down to a large outdoor fountain, according to a complaint filed Monday by the family's lawyers.

Zynae went into cardiac arrest and had to be resuscitated before being transported to a hospital. She suffered "severe and permanent neurological injuries," the complaint said.

I guess she didn't die but is a vegetable

[gambit1990]

boxing will never be safe... the point of it is to make your opponent not be able to stand

[phxspurfan]

The Kremlin is now investigating...

http://rusboxing.ru/news/federation-news/26473/

The Russian Boxing Federation has begun an investigation into the cir stances that led to the death of 28-year-old Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev, who spent his last fight on the night of July 20 in the United States with Puerto Rican Subriel Matias. This was stated by the Secretary General of the Russian Boxing Federation Umar Kremlev.

- We lost today Maxim Dadashev. Our pupil. We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the cir stances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened. This happens in any sport. I think some human factor intervened, there was some kind of violation. We will be always near his family, we will not leave them, - the Kremlin declared.

The fight for the right to become a mandatory challenger for the IBF world junior welterweight le ended in the 11th round. The decision to stop the fight took the corner of the Russians. After the fight, Dadashev, whose condition worsened, was taken to hospital. Doctors diagnosed cerebral edema, was a difficult operation. On Tuesday, the athlete's heart stopped.

In the professional ring, Dadashev had 14 fights, losing only to Matthias.

[DAF86]

The Kremlin is now investigating...

http://rusboxing.ru/news/federation-news/26473/

The Russian Boxing Federation has begun an investigation into the cir stances that led to the death of 28-year-old Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev, who spent his last fight on the night of July 20 in the United States with Puerto Rican Subriel Matias. This was stated by the Secretary General of the Russian Boxing Federation Umar Kremlev.

- We lost today Maxim Dadashev. Our pupil. We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the cir stances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened. This happens in any sport. I think some human factor intervened, there was some kind of violation. We will be always near his family, we will not leave them, - the Kremlin declared.

The fight for the right to become a mandatory challenger for the IBF world junior welterweight le ended in the 11th round. The decision to stop the fight took the corner of the Russians. After the fight, Dadashev, whose condition worsened, was taken to hospital. Doctors diagnosed cerebral edema, was a difficult operation. On Tuesday, the athlete's heart stopped.

In the professional ring, Dadashev had 14 fights, losing only to Matthias.

[DJR210]

boxing will never be safe... the point of it is to make your opponent not be able to stand

Truth.. Max Kellerman called it a "guilty pleasure"

[Spurtacular]

Truth.. Max Kellerman called it a "guilty pleasure"

The boxers, past and present could easily strive for change to headgear. They don't b/c they don't want to make one fifth of the money. Dadashev's corner needed to be smarter and call that way ing sooner. They also could've instructed him to dance way more instead of trying to match a guy hitting much harder punch for punch if they wanted to save some face and take it into a later round before throwing the towel. It was amateur hour. His corner deserves way more criticism. I actually give credit to Dadashev for being a warrior otherwise and getting as far as he did against the odds.

[Spurtacular]

When did you become aware that the unverified Christopher Steel dossier was used in attaining the FISA application? (And related questions)

Grandpa Bob shuts down. What a ing joke.

[RD2191]

The Kremlin is now investigating...

http://rusboxing.ru/news/federation-news/26473/

The Russian Boxing Federation has begun an investigation into the cir stances that led to the death of 28-year-old Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev, who spent his last fight on the night of July 20 in the United States with Puerto Rican Subriel Matias. This was stated by the Secretary General of the Russian Boxing Federation Umar Kremlev.

- We lost today Maxim Dadashev. Our pupil. We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the cir stances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened. This happens in any sport. I think some human factor intervened, there was some kind of violation. We will be always near his family, we will not leave them, - the Kremlin declared.

The fight for the right to become a mandatory challenger for the IBF world junior welterweight le ended in the 11th round. The decision to stop the fight took the corner of the Russians. After the fight, Dadashev, whose condition worsened, was taken to hospital. Doctors diagnosed cerebral edema, was a difficult operation. On Tuesday, the athlete's heart stopped.

In the professional ring, Dadashev had 14 fights, losing only to Matthias.

If Russia wasn't such a hole country then maybe Dadashev wouldn't have to of died trying to get his family into the United States.

[koriwhat]

No one should die playing a sport. I wouldn't mind to see pro boxing ins ute headgear, even if it's perceived as "pussy." We understand biomechanics better than ever before and this means fighters of all weight classes will be punching harder than ever before. NFL players still get their brains rocked wearing a helmet. Now think what a boxer's brain goes through taking 100 blows to the head every bout.

i used to love the full headgear with mouth guard during sparring sessions but i don't think it's adequate during compe ion. you got a bit of blind spots with it, pressure on the face and head, as well as making it harder to breathe. i never did compe ions though but sparring was hard enough with that gear on even though i liked having it on.

[Mitch]

boxing will never be safe... the point of it is to make your opponent not be able to stand

Point is to score points, tbh. The tko exists to prevent it fr getting to that point where a boxer will get KOd or seriously injured. A ref should have stopped the fight upon seeing the clear disparity in skill and the damage he was taking.

[The Gemini Method]

I caught this fight as by-catch at and it was just jarring seeing how he was wobbly walking in the arena. Hopefully he'll be alright in terms of life.

[SpursforSix]

I caught this fight as by-catch at and it was just jarring seeing how he was wobbly walking in the arena. Hopefully he'll be alright in terms of life.

[i'm_still_beta]

I caught this fight as by-catch at and it was just jarring seeing how he was wobbly walking in the arena. Hopefully he'll be alright in terms of life.

Unfortunately, he died

[phxspurfan]

Unfortunately, he died

savage...



But yeah he's in heaven, chugging God's best vodkas rn. Unfortunately the sport will definitely suffer, as Russia will demand we treat fighters better with all the mistakes made on this one. Maybe it will become safer, who knows

[weebo]

This is on his corner and the ref...sometimes boxers need to be saved from themselves

[FkLA]

Another boxer died. Hugo Santillan, Argie, 23 years old.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/argen...ffered-in-ring

[Spurtacular]

Point is to score points, tbh. The tko exists to prevent it fr getting to that point where a boxer will get KOd or seriously injured. A ref should have stopped the fight upon seeing the clear disparity in skill and the damage he was taking.

Agree. But I don't think judges routinely apply that standard. The standard seems to be if someone's about to black out.

[Spurtacular]

Another boxer died. Hugo Santillan, Argie, 23 years old.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/argen...ffered-in-ring

At least he won the fight.

[Mark Celibate]

At least he won the fight.

yep good thing. imagine how much worse it would've been for him had he lost...

[Spurtacular]

yep good thing. imagine how much worse it would've been for him had he lost...

Well, who wants to go out a loser?

[Spurtacular]

savage...



But yeah he's in heaven, chugging God's best vodkas rn. Unfortunately the sport will definitely suffer, as Russia will demand we treat fighters better with all the mistakes made on this one. Maybe it will become safer, who knows

They have Russian Heaven? Not sure I'd want to go if vodka is what's on tap.

[apalisoc_9]

yep good thing. imagine how much worse it would've been for him had he lost...

[RGMCSE]

This is on his corner and the ref...sometimes boxers need to be saved from themselves

Normaly I would agree but after watching the fight I just came away thinking the guys got heart and kept fighting. It wasn’t so obvious that the poor man would pass. But damn the other boxer basically put on an offensive clinic.