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    Beal is a better player than DDR but hes not worth ddr plus young players. He wont stay in a spurs longer than his recent contract. DDR + 2nd rounder(s) for beal is a wise move but not gonna happen.
    Porter is overpaid, his contract is bigger than kardashians ass comparing to his skills.
    The only option is gordon or trade with nets. If not, better he stays in spurs and trade him for picks or young player with some potential.

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    DeRozen for Gordon and Okeke is the best option. But this FO doesn’t like big moves

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    Beal is so ing overrated. He's basically Gilbert Arenas after the knee injury

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    ^DD is worse. He's a choker who can't even shoot the 3.

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    Beal is so ing overrated. He's basically Gilbert Arenas after the knee injury
    What?!

    He's a lot more like an undersized version of young Ray Allen. His game is nothing like Gil - Zero, man.

    And he's definitely a top 5 SG especially with the serious injuries to Oladipo and Thompson.

    I wouldn't take him on the Spurs, though, since guard is their strongest, deepest position and the least of need. They need to acquire one more combo forward (with more size or athleticism than Johnson) over anything else.

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    Spurs can offer:
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    You trolling, right?

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    Beal is a better player than DDR but hes not worth ddr plus young players. He wont stay in a spurs longer than his recent contract. DDR + 2nd rounder(s) for beal is a wise move but not gonna happen.
    Porter is overpaid, his contract is bigger than kardashians ass comparing to his skills.
    The only option is gordon or trade with nets. If not, better he stays in spurs and trade him for picks or young player with some potential.
    The issue is not how close Beal and Derozen are in skill, the issue is why would the Wizards trade their best asset for a 30 year old player and two second round draft picks? If you are trading Beal, you are starting over and rebuilding. You can't trade Wall for assets; he makes too much. But you can trade Beal. Essentially, you are giving up, but you want young players and draft picks. Derozen doesn't make you compe ive and 2 draft picks in the second round doesn't justify moving an asset like Beal. You have to give up future value because a trade for Beal is about the future, not the present.

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    Why would Spurs need another 6’5” guard? Any of White, Lonnie or Murray would eclipse him tbh. If we can’t get a legit 3andD for Demar, Spurs should just stand pat. I’d wait what Demar improved over the summer him knowing he needs a 3pt range and better defense.

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    The issue is not how close Beal and Derozen are in skill, the issue is why would the Wizards trade their best asset for a 30 year old player and two second round draft picks? If you are trading Beal, you are starting over and rebuilding. You can't trade Wall for assets; he makes too much. But you can trade Beal. Essentially, you are giving up, but you want young players and draft picks. Derozen doesn't make you compe ive and 2 draft picks in the second round doesn't justify moving an asset like Beal. You have to give up future value because a trade for Beal is about the future, not the present.
    thats why i said it wont happen....

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    DeRozen for Gordon and Okeke is the best option. But this FO doesn’t like big moves
    I wouldn't really mind this, but it doesn't really help us this season. Gordon is a PF, and we are pretty well covered there. And Okeke, the SF, is out for the season. If PATFO were more aggressive, your proposed deal would set the stage for a companion deal to move LMA, since Gordon would be on hand to replace him. But everybody knows that PATFO is never going to turnover the roster to that extent.

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    I wouldn't really mind this, but it doesn't really help us this season. Gordon is a PF, and we are pretty well covered there. And Okeke, the SF, is out for the season. If PATFO were more aggressive, your proposed deal would set the stage for a companion deal to move LMA, since Gordon would be on hand to replace him. But everybody knows that PATFO is never going to turnover the roster to that extent.
    Doesn’t matter how he’s listed, just like Duncan, LMA is our center.

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    Doesn’t matter how he’s listed, just like Duncan, LMA is our center.
    True enough. But I think Gordon/Poodle could still suffice for a year. Then bring in Milutinov - retaining Poodle or not.

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    True enough. But I think Gordon/Poodle could still suffice for a year. Then bring in Milutinov - retaining Poodle or not.
    With the new NBA, chances are that Mulitinov will make as much or more in Europe, so he won’t come. I’d put him in the Hanga category.

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    With the new NBA, chances are that Mulitinov will make as much or more in Europe, so he won’t come. I’d put him in the Hanga category.
    That's okay, too. We can find another 5. My original point was that with Okeke out for the year, I would still like to have a starting 3.

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    That's okay, too. We can find another 5. My original point was that with Okeke out for the year, I would still like to have a starting 3.
    OP. He’s a fit, and like DD, is likely gone next summer in FA, clearing the way for our young forwards.

    Gordon isn’t a 3. Coupla Orlando GMs lost their jobs thinking he could be.

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    OP. He’s a fit, and like DD, is likely gone next summer in FA, clearing the way for our young forwards.

    Gordon isn’t a 3. Coupla Orlando GMs lost their jobs thinking he could be.
    Exactly. Because Gordon is a 4 I would still want a starting 3 for next season. Hence my suggestion of an additional trade of LMA to acquire a starting 3.

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    Exactly. Because Gordon is a 4 I would still want a starting 3 for next season. Hence my suggestion of an additional trade of LMA to acquire a starting 3.
    They won’t trade both LMA and DD.

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    Wizards aren’t trading Beal tbh. Close thread

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    What?!

    He's a lot more like an undersized version of young Ray Allen. His game is nothing like Gil - Zero, man.

    And he's definitely a top 5 SG especially with the serious injuries to Oladipo and Thompson.

    I wouldn't take him on the Spurs, though, since guard is their strongest, deepest position and the least of need. They need to acquire one more combo forward (with more size or athleticism than Johnson) over anything else.
    he's more like an 2.0 version of ray allen (size, skills, stats, etc)

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    They won’t trade both LMA and DD.
    That's what I said in my original post.

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    He is staying with the Wizards for a max contract.

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    he's more like an 2.0 version of ray allen (size, skills, stats, etc)
    No. He isn’t as good as ray ray. Ray was a three time All star for three different teams; Milwaukee 3 times, Seattle 4 times, and Boston 3 times. Ray shot 40% from 3 for his career on almost 7500 attempts. He also averaged 4.1 rebounds and 3.4 assists. I never liked him, but recognized his greatness. People forget how good he was.

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    No. He isn’t as good as ray ray. Ray was a three time All star for three different teams; Milwaukee 3 times, Seattle 4 times, and Boston 3 times. Ray shot 40% from 3 for his career on almost 7500 attempts. He also averaged 4.1 rebounds and 3.4 assists. I never liked him, but recognized his greatness. People forget how good he was.
    indeed they are, and have very similar individual statistics and achievements (although I still find Ray a little better, he's not MUCH better than Beal)

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    comparing that chucker to Ray Allen millenials

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    Think Boston would be open to a DDR for Hayward trade?
    i think the dude would be perfect for us

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