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There are extremists in every religion. Christianity has its fair share . . . and so does Islam.
But I believe the core teachings of boths religions is peace (and I say "I believe. . ." because I'm no expert on Islam).
Keep telling yourself that.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...186#post104186
There are extremists in every religion. Christianity has its fair share . . . and so does Islam.
But I believe the core teachings of boths religions is peace (and I say "I believe. . ." because I'm no expert on Islam).
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/trueface.shtml
Much valuable information.
The True Face of Islam
By Abdullah Al Araby
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The Peaceful Prophet of Mecca Changes into the Ruthless Warrior of Medina
The Abrogator and the Abrogated
The Real At ude of Islam Towards Christians and Jews
The Peaceful Prophet of Mecca Changes into the Ruthless Warrior of Medina
Mohammed's decision to relocate his new movement from Mecca to Medina presented an economic challenge. He had to find a method of supporting himself and his followers that would also provide an adequate base to finance the ever-increasing demands of the Muslim movement. The traditional method for acquiring wealth among the Arabs at the time was attacking other tribes and seizing their possessions. Muslims living in Medina found no easier way than doing that. They started to make raids (Ghaswa) on other tribes and passing caravans.
The first raid was called an-Nakhla. Muslims, led by Abdullah bin Jahsh, waited in ambush near a place called an-Nakhla and took the passing Qoray e caravan by surprise. Muslims killed the leader of the caravan and captured two men and the entire cargo goods.
The turning point in Mohammed's life, however, was the raid against Badr. Muslims were able to kill dozens of Meccans and take scores of prisoners and much booty. On their way back to Medina some of those prisoners were put to death. One of them was a man name Uqbah bin abi Muait. Before his execution Uqbah pleaded with Mohammed saying, "Who, then, will take care of my little girl?" Mohammed answered, " -fire."
After that, a confident Mohammed starting moving against his enemies in a series of attacks that resulted in the elimination of Jewish tribes and the assassination of certain individuals for the slightest offense. The assassination of Kaab ibn al-Ashraf, of the Jewish tribe Banu al-Nodair, was prompted by Kaab showing sympathy for the Qoray es, and then when he returned to Mecca he recited amorous poetry to Muslim women. Mohammed was enraged and asked for volunteers to rid him of ibn al-Ashraf. Those who volunteered asked for permission to lie in order to lure him out of his house at night into a remote area where they were able to kill him.
A poetess named Asmaa bint Marwan was ordered to be killed for uttering a few verses of poetry against Mohammed. A Muslim assassin, acting on Mohammed's orders, crept at night into the women's bed while her suckling baby was attached to her breast. The man plucked the baby from her breast and then plunged his sword into her abdomen. Later, the killer, fearing the consequences of his crime, asked Mohammed, "Will there be any danger to me on her account?" Mohammed answered, "Two goats will not butt each other about her."
There were many other outrageous assassinations ordered by Mohammed. Abu Afak, an old man of 120 years of age was murdered for composing poetry critical of the Prophet. Another brutal assassination was against an aged women by the name of Umm Kirfa. They tied her legs to camels which were then driven in opposite directions. The poor woman was split into two pieces.
The reality of the Muslim assassin's brutality is punctuated by their practice of cutting off the heads of victims and bringing them to Mohammed. As the killers came into view carrying with them the evidence of Allah's victory over the enemies of Mohammed, a jubilant Mohammed would cry, "Allaho Akbar," (God is great)!
The list of these horrendous acts is too long, much is too repulsive to mention. What has been cited should be sufficient to say about the man that Muslims describe as the "prophet of peace and mercy"!
The essential problem is that the fruit of Mohammed's legacy exists today. As Muslims get deeper into Islam, they simply try to follow in the footsteps of their prime example. Can one still wonder why so much violence is committed, around the world, in the name of Islam?
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The Abrogator and the Abrogated
In their attempt to polish Islam's image, Muslim activists usually quote the Meccan passages of the Quran that call for love, peace and patience. They deliberately hide the Medenan passages that call for killing, decapitating, and maiming.
Muslim activists also fail to reveal to people in the West a major doctrine in Islam called "al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh" (the Abrogator and the Abrogated). This simply means that when a recent verse in the Quran gives a contradictory view to another verse that preceded it (chronologically), the recent verse abrogates (cancels and replaces) the old verse and renders it null and void.
This doctrine is based on the Quran, where Allah allegedly says in Surah 2:106, "None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We subs ute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?" Also, in Surah 16:101 "When We subs ute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not."
One of Islam's classical reference books, written by a recognized Muslim scholar, deals in great detail with the subject. The le of the book is "al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh" (The Abrogator and the Abrogated) by Abil-Kasim Hibat-Allah Ibn-Salama Abi-Nasr. The book goes through every chapter in the Quran and points in full detail to every verse that has been canceled and what verse replaced it. The author noted that out of 114 Surahs (chapters) of the Quran, there are only 43 Surahs that were not affected by this concept.
An example of the abrogation: there are 124 versus that call for tolerance and patience which have been canceled and replaced by this one single verse: "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)....." Surah 9:5
One doesn't help but wonder: how Allah, the all-powerful, the all-knowing, needs to revise himself so often?
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The Real At ude of Islam Towards Christians and Jews
We have discussed the facade that Muslim activists in the West have been displaying to Christians and Jews. They have been saying that Islam is compatible with Christianity and Judaism. Some Christian and Jewish leaders have been deceived into believing them. The following "Fatwa" (Sanction) by a prominent Islamist tells, exactly and bluntly, what Muslims really think of Christians and Jews.
From the Muslim site of Ibrahim Shafi on the Internet:
http://www.wam.uwd.edu/~ibrahim
[Answer by Shaikh Ibn Uthaimin]
Question: One of the preachers in one of the mosques in Europe claimed that it is not allowed to consider Jews and Christians disbelievers. You know - may Allah preserve you - that most of the people who attend the mosques in Europe have very little knowledge. We fear that statements like this one will become widespread. Therefore, we request from you a complete and clear answer to this question.
Answer: I say: The statement that came from that man is misguidance. In fact, it can be blasphemy. This is because Allah has declared that Jews and Christians are disbelievers in His Book. Allah has said, "The Jews call Uzair a son of Allah and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouths; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary: Yet they were commanded to worship but one Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with him)." [Al-Taubah 9:30, 31]
That shows that they are polytheists who associate partners with Allah. In other verses, Allah has made it clear that they are disbelievers:
"in blasphemy indeed are they who say that Allah is the Christ, son of Mary." {Al-Maidah 5:17 and 72]
"They do blaspheme who say, God is one of three (in a Trinity)." {Al-Maidah 5:73]
"Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected faith by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary." {Al-Maidah 5:78]
"Those who reject (truth) among the People of the Book and the Polytheists will be in fire to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.." {Al-Bayyinah 98:6]
Many versus and Hadith express the same meaning. The one, who rejects the idea that the Jews and Christians who do not believe in Mohammed (peace be upon him) and deny him are disbelievers, is in fact denying what Allah has said. Denying what Allah has said is blasphemy. If anyone has any doubt concerning them being disbelievers, then he himself is also a disbeliever. This is a matter concerning which there is no room for doubt. And help is sought only with Allah.
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You can probably find harsh words in the Bible too (specially in the Old Testament). That doesn't mean Christianity is not a Religion of peace . . .
Holy ... (pun intended)
????@scott
That's a nice punch line from George Carlin . . . but what does it mean in the context of this thread?
Last edited by smeagol; 12-05-2004 at 08:39 PM.
Sorry, I was just expressing my... amazement... at two participants of this thread. I'll leave it at that... I have nothing further to add.
From what I can tell, you have to add something to not add anymore.I have nothing further to add.
Looks like your only contribution here is fear.
Fear would be well founded! Of course, you could do the ostrich.
According to the history books. The Quayrash(sp) in an effort to abolish Muslims denying there Paegan Idols was to destroy any property that belonged to the Muslims and imprisoning there family in Mecca so that they might give up. The battle at the wells of Badr and the battle at Mt. Uhud weren't raids the Muslims stationed themselves at the wells of Badr while one caravan of Busof Yan apporached them while Busofiyan and his part of the caravan headed back towards to Mecca, both tribes were expecting a war due to the Muslims being treated harshly and the Meccans wanting Islam no more. The Paegan arabs lost and later came back with a bigger army for redemption and this one the Muslims lost. Hey if you want to find anything negative about a subject you can do a simple search ala yahoo.com
Islam is bad
Judasim is bad
Christianity is bad
Religon is bad
Chees is bad
etc.
Smackdaddy, have you ever stepped into a mosque? I would hardly consider you a scholar on any religion much less Islam.
Not even close to a scholar. This is why I don't post that much. Reading info allows you to learn more. Reading info from all over the world and pay particular attention to articles that interview Muslim clerics, interview and film the Imams sermons. Saudi Arabia ran a TV special a few weeks back on the proper way to beat your wife.
The history of the Middle East has been the dictatorships have allowed the Imams to blame all their problems on the U.S. and Israel to keep the masses off of the governments back. The Imams want power in the world as that equates to money. The poor in the Middle East get madrassas for education. Nobody lives in a democracy. This is the reason Iraq is so important. Bush hopes Iraq would start a domino effect and freedom would come to the masses in the Middle East and radical Islam will hopefully die.
My above post was written by an ARAB. The original post is a story on Islam and the beliefs of it's followers in the U.S. What better sources to use to form an opinion? Originally, I did believe the religion was a religion of peace. Over the past year, I have seen the truth. I see the inherint danger of the intolerance of the religion.
Reading another person's opinions helps you form their opinions.
Like I said, go to a mosque and experience Islam then come make a post about it.
Stupid statement. I have the mosque come to me. There is something called the internet.
Are these enough links for you or would you like a couple hundered more?
Pay special attention to the links by FORMER Muslims.
WEBSITES BY EX-MUSLIMS:
http://www.secularislam.org/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
http://www.middleastwomen.org/
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/
http://www.knowislam.info/
http://www.homa.org/
http://www.ladeeni.net/english.htm
http://www.murtadd.org/
http://www.islamreview.org/
http://www.geocities.com/freethoughtmecca/
http://exmuslim.com/
http://www.shoebat.com/
http://www.noniedarwish.com/
http://www.muslimsandislamic.faithweb.com/
http://www.mukto-mona.com/
http://taslimanasrin.com/
http://www.geocities.com/ibn_rushd2
http://www.ampbreia.com/
http://www.webspawner.com/users/hfali1/
http://www.assoaime.net/
http://www.sabatina.at/
About ex-Muslims, Apostates from Islam:
http://muslim-canada.org/apostasy.htm
A website which reports on what has actually happened to Apostates in Muslim countries:
http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/apostacy.html
http://www.al-islam.org/short/apostacy.htm
http://www.beautifulislam.net/articl...hemy_islam.htm
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=en...QR=12406&dgn=4
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Hahn/Mawdudi/
http://www.light-of-life.com/eng/ilaw/l5721et1.htm#p19
http://islamonline.net/fatwaapplicat...FatwaID=102152
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/eng...hFatwaID=38268
http://thetruereligion.org/modules/w...?articleid=119
http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_apos.htm
http://www.sunnah.org/msaec/articles/apostasy.htm
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=en...e&QR=811&dgn=3
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=en...e&QR=696&dgn=3
http://muslim-quotes.netfirms.com/femaleapostate.html
http://debate.domini.org/leekk/Index/A/apostasy.html
NON-MUSLIM WEBSITES CRITICAL OF ISLAM:
http://muslim-quotes.netfirms.com/
http://members.lycos.nl/whatsthisthen/
http://answering-islam.org/
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.nojihad.com/
http://www.victimsofjihad.com/
A large list of critical websites:
http://listislam.cjb.net/
SOME RECOMMENDED BOOKS ABOUT ISLAM:
By ex-Muslims:
"Leaving Islam - Apostates Speak Out" edited by Ibn Warraq
"Why I am not a Muslim" by Ibn Warraq
"23 years" by Ali Dashti
"Women and the Koran" by Anwar Hekmat
"Islam and Terrorism" by Mark Gabriel
"Islam and the Jews" by Mark Gabriel
"Rage against the veil" by Parvin Darabi
"Islamic Mysticism: A Secular Perspective" by Ibn Al-Rawandi
"Shame" by Taslima Nasrin
Coming soon: "A World Apart" by Ali Sina
By others:
"Onward Muslim Soldiers" by Robert Spencer
"Islam Unveiled" by Robert Spencer
"Muhammad" by Maxime Rodinson
"Islam and dhimmitude" by Bat Ye'or
"Among the Believers" by V. S. Naipaul
"Islam and Human Rights" by Ann Elizabeth Mayer
"Human Rights in Iran: The Abuse of Cultural Relativism" by Reza Afshari
"Escape from Slavery" by Francis Bok
"The Rage and The Pride" by Oriana Fallaci
"Jihad in the West" by Paul Fregosi
"Mohammed and the Rise of Islam" by David S. Margoliouth
"Slavery in the Arab World" by Murray Gordon
"Reliance of the Traveller" by Ahmad Ibn Lulu Ibn Al-Naqib
Coming soon: "Eurabia" by Bat Ye'or
FREE, ONLINE BOOKS ABOUT ISLAM:
A selection:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/library.htm
"Sirat Rasoul Allah", The earliest biography of Muhammad, An abridged version:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sira/index.htm
"The Life of Muhammad", Sir William Muir:
http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Books/Muir/Life1/
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Books/Muir/Life2/
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Books/Muir/Life3/
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Books/Muir/Life4/
"The original sources of the Qur'an" by Tisdall:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Books...rces/index.htm
"The Codification of the Qur'an text" by John Gilchrist:
http://answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Jam/index.html
Prophet Of Doom - Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words" by Craig Winn:
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/toc
"The Coran, Its Composition and Teaching, and the Testimony it Bears to the Holy Scriptures" by Sir William Muir:
http://answering-islam.org/Books/Muir/Coran/
"The Historical Development of the Qur'an" by Edward Sell:
http://answering-islam.org/Books/Sell/Development/
"Muhammad" by Maxime Rodinson, chapter 3:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/med/rodinson.html
"Meccan Trade and the Rise of Islam" by Patricia Crone, 231-250:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/med/crone.html
"The Origin of Islam in its Christian Environment" by Richard Bell:
http://muhammadanism.org/bell/origin/p000i.htm
"The Collection of the Qur'an - from the hadiths" by John Burton:
http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Collection/index.html
"Jihad - The Islamic Doctrine of Permanent War" by Suhas Majumdar:
http://www.nojihad.com/library/doctrine/doctrine.htm
"The Calcutta Quran Pe ion" by Sita Ram Goel:
http://voi.org/books/tcqp/
"Understanding Islam through Hadis - Religious Faith or Fanaticism?" by Ram Swarup:
http://www.bharatvani.org/books/uith/
"Islam - The Arab National Movement" by Anwar Shaikh:
http://www.islamreview.org/AnwarShaikh/arabnationalism/
Texts by Islamists:
"The Millennium Biography" , Modern Islamic Biography of Muhammad:
http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/En...graphy/TOC.htm
"Milestones", by Sayyid Qutb:
http://www.islamis ch.org/texts/q...nes/index.html
"In the Shade of the Qur'an" - Koran commentary (tafsir) by Sayyid Qutb:
http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_li...qutb/index.htm
"Finality of Prophethood" by Syed Abul 'Ala Maudoodi:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...alprophet.html
Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi's Chapter Introductions to the Qur'an:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/maududi/
Many texts about classical Islamic philosophy, from Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd and others:
http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/
"Mishkat Al-Anwar (The Niche for Lights)" by Ghazzali:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/mishkat/
"Munkidh min al-Dalal (Confessions, or Deliverance from Error)" by al-Ghazali:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis...ali-truth.html
Corpus (Works) by al-Ghazali:
http://www.ghazali.org/site/corpus.htm
"Principles of Islamic Faith (Al-`Aqidah Al-Wasitiyah)" by Ibn Taimiyah:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/introduc...aimiyah_1.html
"Enjoining Right and Forbidding Wrong" by Ibn Taimiya:
http://www.islamic.pwp.blueyonder.co...rbidding_w.htm
"The Book of Tawheed" by Shaikh Abdul-Wahhaab:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...ed/abdulwahab/
"The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam" by Yusuf al-Qaradawi:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/Q_LP/
"Jihad" by Hassan al-Banna:
http://www.youngmuslims.ca/online_library/books/jihad/
More than 400 Free online books from Islamic point of view:
http://www.islammessage.com/books/e/Bookslist.htm
ISLAMIC SOURCES:
The Koran, in three English translations:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/
Look up 8 Koran translations at the same time:
http://quranbrowser.com/
More Koran:
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/neindex.htm
http://www.road-to-heaven.com/noblequran.htm
http://www.quraan.com/
http://www.free-minds.org/quran/quran.htm
Transliteration (Arabic words written in Latin letters) of the Koran:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/transliteration/
http://transliteration.org/quran/home.htm
The renowned tafsir (Koran commentary and explanation) of Ibn Kathir:
http://tafsir.com/
http://tafseercomparison.org/
http://www.shariah-ins ute.org/science.htm
http://www.altafsir.com/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Tafseer/Ulum/
http://www.quran.org.uk/ieb_quran_tafseer.htm
A non-Muslim, critical view of the Koran and Islam:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm
http://www.atheists.org/Islam/mohammedanism.html
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Text/index.html
http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol6No1...henixHorn.html
http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye/Vol3No1/HV3N1Griffith.html
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/AbulKasem41205.htm
The Koran's 164 Jihad Verses:
http://www.angelfire.com/moon/yoelna...arpassages.htm
http://www.secularislam.org/jihad/index.htm
The ahadith (Traditions about Muhammad and his companions) of al-Bukhari and others:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...unnah/bukhari/
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
About hadith collections, Islamic perspective:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...hadith/brief1/
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...dith/a .html
About the Sunna (The example of Muhammad and his companions) and jurisprudence:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...unnah/muwatta/
Some Shia Muslim resources:
A Shi'ite Encyclopedia:
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/
A multi-media site by Richard Hooker:
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/SHIA/SHIA.HTM
Shia Library:
http://al-shia.com/
Sunni website critical of Shias:
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/...to_shiites.htm
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/index.htm
http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/KAFI.HTM
Shia ahadith (Traditions about Muhammad and his companions) of Al kafi:
http://hahsim.s5.com/kafi.html
Sayings of Imam Ali (Muhammad's son-in-law, first Shia Imam):
http://www.al-islam.org/nahjul/index.htm
Shia tafsir (Koran commentary and explanation):
http://www.almizan.org/
Other:
http://www.al-islam.org/short/martyrdom/
http://al-islam.org/ashura/
http://www.shiachat.com/
DEFINITIONS OF ARABIC-ISLAMIC TERMS, HISTORICAL INFORMATION:
The Internet Islamic History Sourcebook, a long list of historical and religious resources and texts, from the early days until today:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
Encyclopaedia of the Orient:
http://lexicorient.com/e.o/
Atlas of the Orient:
http://lexicorient.com/e.o/atlas/index.htm
Other historical maps:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/map_s...s.html#mideast
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~rs143/map.html
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbookmap.html
http://www.muhammadanism.com/maps/default.htm
http://www.al-bab.com/arab/maps/maps2.htm
Definitions of Islamic terms:
Thomas P. Hughes' "Dictionary of Islam":
http://answering-islam.org/Books/Hughes/index.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...erms_in_Arabic
http://www.knowislam.info/drupal/mno
Islamic definitions:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/glossary.html
http://muttaqun.com/
http://www.onelook.com/ (Dictionary Search)
ABOUT THE ARABIC LANGUAGE AND ALPHABET:
http://dictionary.ajeeb.com/en.asp
http://www.ectaco.com/online/diction...fid=532&lang=3
Online automatic translators. Note that these automatic translators are far from flawless, but they can still be useful in certain situations:
http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box
http://www.free-translator.com/
How to write and pronounce Arabic:
http://www.funwitharabic.com/alphabet.html
http://www.i-cias.com/babel/arabic/
http://arabic-language.eigenstart.nl/
Write with Arabic keyboard:
http://www.arabicdictionaries.com/arabickeyboard.htm
The history of the Arabic alphabet and script:
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/arabic.htm
http://www.ancientscripts.com/arabic.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language
The differences between Classical (Koran) Arabic, written Modern Standard Arabic and Colloquial Arabic (spoken dialects):
http://www.pacificarabic.com/resources/diglossia.html
http://slate.msn.com/id/2063956
http://i-cias.com/cgi-bin/eo-direct.pl?arabic.htm
Damn smack laid the wood down on that one.
Why, he's like NBADan, only with hypertext links.
I actually checked out one of them, secularislam.org. It's interesting that people who lose their faith in Islam share a similar sentiment to those who lose their faith in Christianity. IT'S AS IF THEY WERE "SAVED" BY THEIR BRAIN.
It makes me ponder the similarities of faithful Christians and Muslims, in very condescending terms.
Back to the testimonials.
Adios.
Last edited by Guru of Nothing; 12-07-2004 at 08:00 PM.
Yes, because finding links on the Internet is so difficult.
Wow.
Smack, once again, try forming your own opinions by experiencing the religion not by looking at sites put up by people with agendas that happen to match yours.
http://www.answering-christianity.org/
That was easy. There's one called answering Judaism aswell.
Not difficult . . . just time consuming and only 5% of posters actually get in them.
If it is on the Internet, it must be true.
yeah those atheistic communist countries have only killed about 100 million people..!
Eritrea is about 50% Christian.
I saw no info about the religious creed -- if any -- of the perp in the articles I found and none in yours.
Why did you post it here? Is there something aboit the nature of the crime that leads you to conclude it must be peculiar to Islam?
50 Christian / 50 Muslim. I think we all know the likely relgiosity of the perp and victim(s).
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