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yep. Worst is he might lose to Trash,but if he wins the WH, it will tell progressives to GFY, the BigDonor Dem establishment is unbeatable
And I have been asked why I constantly pick on this poster.
yep. Worst is he might lose to Trash,but if he wins the WH, it will tell progressives to GFY, the BigDonor Dem establishment is unbeatable
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-02-2019 at 08:05 AM.
Right now Trump would win in a landslide no matter who came out of the Democratic primary.
bull 40% approvel rating ain't winning , even with Repug/Pootin election ing
Disagree. Any of Bernie, tulsi or even Warren could beat Trump. That's because their followers would unite and back any of the 3 easily. Sure each has their weakness. Bernie is a communist, tulsi an Assad lover and Warren pocahontas wannabe. But then again, Trump is a racist fascist so it evens out.
Trump would win easily VS anyone else but those 3
So you are giving Hillary more credit than any of the current dem candidates running for president right now? I mean given that she barely lost by 77k votes across 3 states and all.
I think you might want to reassess that statement. lol
Maybe not. In 2016 the fear was that if Trump became president, the world would end and economy completely crash. That didn't happen and USA is doing más o menos and more importantly a big war has not been started.
Trump is in stronger position this time like it or not
there's a fairly significant difference policy wise. though i agree that biden would be a very uninspired choice, to put it lightly
I continue to be baffled by this take. Biden is absolutely an uninspiring candidate and among the more conservative options for the Democratic nomination, but Trump is in a league of his own even as compared to Republican Presidents in recent history.
Do you really think the judges Biden would nominate are anything like the judges Trump has nominated? Do you think Biden would continue to reverse Obama orders the way Trump has? Would he treat election safety as an inconvenience? Would he block liberal policies coming out of Congress?
And moral difference.
Also not sure about lies all the time or opportunistic.
These two posts essentially agree with my position, tbh. Notice how I didn't mention policy at all in the attributes I described. Yes, policy-wise, one would carry water for the Ds and the other for the Rs.
But policy rarely wins presidential elections. It's all about the character, charisma, baggage, how believable is your bull , how well you did with your debate and acting coaches, appeals to emotion, spin machine, etc. And in that domain, Trump probably has an edge on character, and Joe on charisma, but neither is really likeable, and both are largely devoid of any rational ideas that can pass the bull detector. Both carry a lot of baggage in different ways, and for pragmatic voters (ie: rust belt) they're both uninspiring and full of .
While the Rs are kinda stuck with Trump, it's really damning for the Ds if they can't really do any better.
I ing hate that my CD interest rate went from 2.37% to 1.95% in 3 months flat over the summer
I don't think Warren wins
Bernie is super socialist but millennials will turn out for him BIG BIG BIG time... Tulsi is very interesting and seems to be challenging the deep state/current political football. Cut oil ties with Saudi Arabia oligopoly, let other nations including Iran compete. Why are we so explicitly favoring the Sunnis over the Shias when the Sunnis did 9/11 and all the other jihadi attacks? I don't get it.
Boss Biden
Trash promised, if he is re-elected, to cure HIV (diverging from St Ronnie's policy of "Let the gots deservedly suffer and die") and to cure (only) childhood cancer.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-03-2019 at 01:19 PM.
I think Bernie stands the only real chance to beat Trump because his die hard supporters will only vote for him and and him only. If Biden somehow wins the nomination Trump wins in 2020. Dem voters especially younger voters won't show up to vote for Biden. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he loses worse than Hillary in battleground states.
I thought the argument was when you guys stayed home in 2016 people would have no choice but to vote Bernie in 2020
Spoilers: Bernie lost the 2016 primary by ing 3.7 million votes and hes going to get drubbed even worse this time.
Umm Hillary didn't lose because of low youth voter turnout. She didn't need an Obama like perfomance to boost her chances.
She needed to not suck to such extreme level. I am starting to see the same fear mongering from the left already.
Again with the dumbass threats about not voting for X candidate because he's not to the left enough. Democrats are a bunch of re s.
How far you are to the left should never be the measuring stick to get the nomination or to deserve the presidency.
Biden
Like the above is any worse than what we get DAILY from the orange garbage.
Joe Biden is a liar as well, just not as prolific. Orange slush as taken the act of purposely changing facts to a new level.
Alternative fact: yes now means no.
Joe's WAY PAST his Use By date.
I don't think he has the mental facilities (anymore?) to be President.
and then there is his racist, corporatist, misogynist history
Biden in his prime was a Morón. At his 70 plus years old he is nothing but a body the DNC, and corporations can use to their own liking.
If he is president all his job will consist of is waking up in the morning and reading his given daily script. And even that will be hard to do for this old
Gaffe-prone presidential hopeful Joe Biden put his foot in his mouth during an Iowa campaign stop on Thursday when he told a group of predominately Asian and Hispanic voters that “poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids.”
https://nypost.com/2019/08/08/latest...as-white-kids/
unfortunately this wont hurt him. the DNC is all in on this guy for some reason. just a reminder he did author the crime bill that destroyed a lot of black families in the 90s. hopefully kamala keeps attacking him.
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