The Radicalization of White Males..

[midnightpulp]

"more radical left's focus on iden y above all else"

bull . The "iden y politics" is all WHITE MALE IDEN Y SUPREMACY

resist the urge toward tribalism and

"a more elevated form of cooperation."

Going back to Falwell and Limbaugh in the '70s, '80s, fomenting hate, division, polarization, white iden y, Christian identify, with the Repugs recruiting so-called Christians with the anti-abortion question, the rightwing/Christian assholes absolutely won't cooperate, since cooperation, compromise, all-in-same-boatness is unmanly, and all their opposition to My Way is simply not even legitimate, so hit The Highway.

"doesn't mean that minorities still don't experience real racism".

gun violence and racism are strong now as ever, are foundational to the American iden y, and are INSOLUBLE faults in American civilization, as is predatory Capitalism.

The left's tactic in those days was to just let Rush and Falwell blather and focus on bettering the lives of working class Americans. That's the correct tactic. Let Trump, et al hang themselves by spewing white iden y politics while the left focuses on healthcare, wage growth, etc. They play into the right's hands when they start talking about white male privilege, etc because it gives the right a propaganda tool.

[midnightpulp]

Conservative whites have a low in group bias compared to the entirety of other race groups.

Anyone can say anything on a poll.

[Mark Celibate]

You really can't will yourself to wealth if you lack certain fundamental traits (intelligence, both social and cognitive, creativity, athleticism, etc) and certain social advantages (connections, stable rearing environment). Sure, some can rise above these obstacles, but it's rare. I'm not saying submit to determinism, but don't feel "worthless" if the so-called American Dream didn't happen for you for whatever reasons. If the incel finds himself not up to the standards of "normie" society, find other things that can be fulfilling, even if that's collecting anime or beating videogames. The "nerds" of the past we're more confident in their eccentricity because, as you pointed out, such on-demand Internet based negative feedback loops didn't exist then. An angry nerd in the 80s or whatever would find his outlet by programming or writing fantasy stories. Now the incel/nerd goes onto 4chan or MGTOW and just marinates in all the "seething."

Bill Gates probably doesn't create Microsoft if he were born in 1997. He'd spend too much time seething about Chads and Normies on the typical outlets than working on creating something.

Damn, never thought about that last paragraph but you’re probably spot on

[Othyus Lalanne]

- "I think you're sweet on old Billy the Kid."

- Sam Rockwell - "The Green Weiner"

You think you are a Bunta, but you are really just the Razor's next victim.

[midnightpulp]

Damn, never thought about that last paragraph but you’re probably spot on

The Internet is ironically not a healthy place for nerds. Real nerds (not the modern "nerd" that wears a classically trained NES shirt and debates Marvel Movies online), as defined by VERY socially awkward, near autistic types who have preoccupations with certain hobbies (computers, fantasy stories, anime, table top role playing games, etc).

[boutons_deux]

"The left's tactic in those days was to just let Rush and Falwell blather and focus on bettering the lives of working class Americans"

W T F ? what do any one of these demagoguing, grifting assholes do about "bettering"

white male privilege?

that's iden y politics, that's racism, that non-white, non-male people deal with everyday, eg, lower pay for same job because they aren't white male, tier schools, denied opportunity because they aren't white males.

iow, white male privilege and supremacy is ING TOXIC even for white males, esp young males who think big muscles is manhood, sports is manhood, etc, etc.

[Pavlov]

Nah, I think Gates' situation was such that he'd still end up in a Ivy League school but maybe wouldn't start a transformational company.

[Thread]

You think you are a Bunta, but you are really just the Razor's next victim.

- "Whoaaaa...smell you."

- Sam Rockwell - "The Green Mile"

[Nathan89]

The left's tactic in those days was to just let Rush and Falwell blather and focus on bettering the lives of working class Americans. That's the correct tactic. Let Trump, et al hang themselves by spewing white iden y politics while the left focuses on healthcare, wage growth, etc. They play into the right's hands when they start talking about white male privilege, etc because it gives the right a propaganda tool.

I wouldn't call an ideological stance they've been preaching in colleges for decades propaganda. There is a reason white liberals are the only group with an out group preference. I'd say a few generations of this ideology being taught is a major factor.

[Pavlov]

I wouldn't call an ideological stance they've been preaching in colleges for decades propaganda. There is a reason white liberals are the only group with an out group preference. I'd say a few generations of this ideology being taught is a major factor.

Are you actually in favor of acts by radicalized whites like those carried out in El Paso yesterday?

[midnightpulp]

I wouldn't call an ideological stance they've been preaching in colleges for decades propaganda. There is a reason white liberals are the only group with an out group preference. I'd say a few generations of this ideology being taught is a major factor.

Leftist politicians=/=leftist intellectuals. Dukakis, for example, didn't invoke any kind of iden y politics when he ran.

[Nathan89]

"more radical left's focus on iden y above all else"

"The top echelon of staffers at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee left their jobs Monday, a shakeup following a pair of Politico stories detailing deep unease with the party’s campaign apparatus over a lack of diversity."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...uproar-1439525

Seems like an accurate assessment given the fact that whites have to leave their position for being white.

[Nathan89]

Are you actually in favor of acts by radicalized whites like those carried out in El Paso yesterday?

This is an unreasonable response, pav.

[Pavlov]

This is an unreasonable response, pav.

The act by the radicalized white was an unreasonable response?

[Thread]

This is an unreasonable response, pav.

The poor thing couldn't help himself, Nathan. Another minute & his balloon knot a busted wide open.

[boutons_deux]

Here's the perfect that Fox News defecates on to it viewers, and America

‘Grow the f*ck up’: Tomi Lahren gets chewed out after blaming ‘over-medication’ for trend of white shooters



Fox News host Tomi Lahren argued over the weekend that two mass shootings in Texas and Ohio had been caused by “over-medication” and “absentee parents.”

“It’s not Trump’s fault. It’s not the NRA’s fault,” Lahren wrote in a Sunday tweet

“When will our nation wake up and realize we have a

youth mental health crisis likely caused by over-medication,

absentee parents, and

a culture that glorifies infamy and notoriety above God, family and community?” Lahren asked.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/grow-the-fck-up-tomi-lahren-gets-chewed-out-after-blaming-over-medication-for-trend-of-white-shooters/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

[Thread]

Here's the perfect that Fox News defecates on to it viewers, and America

‘Grow the f*ck up’: Tomi Lahren gets chewed out after blaming ‘over-medication’ for trend of white shooters



Fox News host Tomi Lahren argued over the weekend that two mass shootings in Texas and Ohio had been caused by “over-medication” and “absentee parents.”

“It’s not Trump’s fault. It’s not the NRA’s fault,” Lahren wrote in a Sunday tweet

“When will our nation wake up and realize we have a

youth mental health crisis likely caused by over-medication,

absentee parents, and

a culture that glorifies infamy and notoriety above God, family and community?” Lahren asked.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/grow-the-fck-up-tomi-lahren-gets-chewed-out-after-blaming-over-medication-for-trend-of-white-shooters/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

Bulls eye!

50% divorce rate since WW2. You can't run from that. You can't even walk-a-way from it. That graveyard we've been whistlin' past 75 years is getting crowded.

[chunticakes]

Bulls eye!

50% divorce rate since WW2. You can't run from that. You can't even walk-a-way from it. That graveyard we've been whistlin' past 75 years is getting crowded.

You tell em, Cubby. That white broad isn't entirely wrong, tbh..

[Splits]

[Thread]

Afternoon, fart-face.

[boutons_deux]

Trump is the end result of 40 years of right-wing radio hate-mongering





actually August 1, 1980,” said Smerconish. “How come?”

“That’s the day that Rush Limbaugh takes to the radio,” said Rosenwald.

“And people tune in, what they hear every day is calls for action.

It doesn’t make for good radio to say, hey, nuance, compromise, that stuff is boring.

But fighting, that’s good radio.

And Donald Trump captured that.”

Limbaugh, Rosenwald said, “was simply giving voice to the bedrock conservative sentiments that he had grown up with or that his audience had.

But it wasn’t like he was a puppet master who directed his audience to believe things.

His audience already believed them.”

“The motivation was to charge advertising rates which is how can we make the most money,”

“What’s the best, most engaging show that we can put on every single day?

“They were frustrated by both Bushes. They were frustrated by John Boehner and Paul Ryan,” said Rosenwald.

“These guys made promises and they got to the campaign trail and they didn’t actually deliver.

what the folks heard on the airwaves.

They heard frustration.

They heard anger.

They were afraid, hosts were saying, just to pick one issue, immigration, they were saying this is going to destroy the fabric of America.

And the end result was they were looking for someone like Donald Trump.

Someone who sounded like their favorite host.

Someone who the most important thing was punching back against the liberal elite.

Not just people on television, but in the democratic parties.

And Donald Trump gave them that.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/trump-is-the-end-result-of-40-years-of-right-wing-radio-hate-mongering-media-expert/?utm_source=feedburner&ut%E2%80%A6

Trash didn't actually "deliver", either, but his low-ed, low-wage, ignorant cult mob doesn't care

[Thread]

Trump is the end result of 40 years of right-wing radio hate-mongering





actually August 1, 1980,” said Smerconish. “How come?”

“That’s the day that Rush Limbaugh takes to the radio,” said Rosenwald.

“And people tune in, what they hear every day is calls for action.

It doesn’t make for good radio to say, hey, nuance, compromise, that stuff is boring.

But fighting, that’s good radio.

And Donald Trump captured that.”

Limbaugh, Rosenwald said, “was simply giving voice to the bedrock conservative sentiments that he had grown up with or that his audience had.

But it wasn’t like he was a puppet master who directed his audience to believe things.

His audience already believed them.”

“The motivation was to charge advertising rates which is how can we make the most money,”

“What’s the best, most engaging show that we can put on every single day?

“They were frustrated by both Bushes. They were frustrated by John Boehner and Paul Ryan,” said Rosenwald.

“These guys made promises and they got to the campaign trail and they didn’t actually deliver.

what the folks heard on the airwaves.

They heard frustration.

They heard anger.

They were afraid, hosts were saying, just to pick one issue, immigration, they were saying this is going to destroy the fabric of America.

And the end result was they were looking for someone like Donald Trump.

Someone who sounded like their favorite host.

Someone who the most important thing was punching back against the liberal elite.

Not just people on television, but in the democratic parties.

And Donald Trump gave them that.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/trump-is-the-end-result-of-40-years-of-right-wing-radio-hate-mongering-media-expert/?utm_source=feedburner&ut%E2%80%A6

Trash didn't actually "deliver", either, but his low-ed, low-wage, ignorant cult mob doesn't care

Boiled down:::

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

[Down Under]

My issues following the aftermath of these shootings is the focus on race. I really hate scrolling throughout the cesspool that is twitter, but one common theme from the outraged there (and on any social media platform) is to focus on the race of the shooter. It's not a matter of if, but when, an angry Latino, black, etc shoots up a majority white soft target, likely claiming it as an act of revenge for the people of color who were victims of the Christchurch, El Paso, etc shootings. How will the debate look then? My problem is that racializing and politicizing these events deflects away from what should be evaluated in an agenda-free manner: How do we stop mass shootings. When the eventual black or Latino shooter does his deed, the debate will devolve into, "See! Blacks and Latinos do it too! I bet you lefties were utterly disappointed when you found out the shooter's name was Jesus Ramirez," instead of continuing dialogue on how to stop this .

It'll just further entrench sides on a issue we need to work together to solve.

Back to your point on mental health, it needs to be mentioned that less than a quarter of those who carry out mass shootings are diagnosed as having a mental illness. I think the point with that stat that is missed though, is do the others indeed have a problem? Does a young, unemployed, disgruntled bloke fall into the class of having a mental illness according to the DSM-IV manual? Or is he just in a 'depressed state'? Even if he has an illness, will he seek treatment if it is more readily available? Or is it an American societal problem? Obviously, I'm in complete agreement on gun control regulation.

[Nathan89]

Trump is the end result of 40 years of feminist hate mongering on college campuses across the country and the Dems deciding to incorporate that within their party.

[Thread]

Trump is the end result of 40 years of feminist hate mongering on college campuses across the country and the Dems deciding to incorporate that within their party.

Tell it, Nathan. Testify!!!