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Trade Mills and Forbes.
We know Forbes will be in the starting lineup because of his shooting, familiarity and comradery. So the starting lineup looks like:
DJM, Forbes, DDR, DC, LMA
We know Patty is going to get minutes because of his salary, familiarity and comrades. So the 2nd unit looks like:
White, Patty, ???, Gay, Poeltl
Who gets the (??? - SF - 10th man) minutes between Beli and LW4?
I believe if LW4 is playing good basketball by the trading deadline and shows that he is ready to contribute then either 2 of Forbes, Mills or Beli will be traded for a 3 and D Small Forward. Let's say Patty stay because of his contract and other obvious reasons then the lineups would look like this:
DJM, DDR, 3 and D, DC, LMA
White, Patty, LW4, Gay, Poeltl
KJ, Lyles, Luka, Metu, buyout vet
What do y'all think?
Trade Mills and Forbes.
I think this is the likely rotation but Walker is probably going to fill in the backup 3 minutes and Beli will get spot minutes until he is either traded or released.
Beli is better for the second unit but Walker has the possibility of contributing too this season. If he can play decent defense, knock down open 3's and attack close-outs then he can be effective.
They'll share minutes in the second unit and duke it out which is a good thing. If the question is who will get the most minutes, I think it will be 50/50 until the RRT................................. and then either Lonnie has broken through (which I think he will) or he hasn't.
Maybe they're keeping Beli as injury insurance. Or extra shooting. Or maybe Pop trots out two different lineups to use on alternating days, like he did when we had the Turd Towers (tm). aka regular season minutes eaters.
Having lost Bertans, I can't see how we can get by without Beli's shooting. The first unit's only shooting threat is Forbes -and this season he won't be anymore a "surprise"-, the second unit has maybe Mills and maybe Gay on a good day.
Let's not forget that last season the second unit kept the boat afloat for months, and that was in large part due to Beli.
Regular season is not the PO.
imo white will be in s5 instead of djm whose coming back from an injury. Mills and forbes should be traded
DJ and White reminds me of the Manu and Parker situation. One of them are going to have to come off the bench to lead the second unit, of the two White is most likely humble enough to except that role. IMO Mills and Beli will be the two fighting for floor time.
Like some have already stated I think Marco and Lonnie will split minutes early in the season until Lonnie proves he is unequivocally a better option.
Marco, Mills, and Forbes are needed on this roster for consistent 3 point shooting
The hope is Patty Mills gets hurt and Pop finally sees how useless he is with White, Dejounte, Forbes, DDR on the roster. Kinda of like the Pau situation last year.
Whomever is the worst on defense gets the minutes
The Spurs are going to put White on the bench? That makes sense..
I’m less concerned with who the starters and bench are, and more about what minutes distribution will look like. We know with the depth they have, they’ll be able to limit most guys ... either minuteswise or by holding them to 70 games. Last year was a grind for Demar and think he needs more off nights this year to be fresher at the end.
32 Demar
32 Aldridge (both guys down 1-2 minutes from last year)
28 Murray
28 White
24 Gay
22 Carroll
20 Forbes
18 Poeltl
36 combined of White / Patty / Beli
Will obviously be tweaked during regular season with guys getting off nights and rotating guys like Lyles and the rookies into the lineup on occasion.
That looks about right. I figure it'll be like this;
Murray-Mills (28/20)
Forbes-White (20-22/ 26-28)
DDR-Walker (32/16)
Carroll-Gay (22/26)
LMA- Poeltl (30/18)
Think a deeper team and a better backup 5 means rest games for LMA and fewer minutes when he does play, otherwise Lyles will probably be the 3rd center unless he impresses with the minutes he is likely to get earlier in the season when Pop tinkers.
Doesn't make sense to have 3 ball handlers in the SL (Murray, White and DDR), especially when the best shooter of the 3 was a below average 3pt shooter last season. Forbes makes a lot more sense as a starter due to his floor spacing.
Having White play 28 mpg off the bench and be the primary ball handler for 10 minutes a game makes a lot more sense. With White, Mills, Walker, Gay, and Poeltl as a second unit, that is probably the bench 2nd unit in the league.
White >>> Instagram Baller
lol at spurs fans still sleeping on the next great Spur
Why can’t they both be great? It’s like saying TP>>>>>Manu when they are both stars.
For 10 minutes a game? Yeah, let's take the ball out of the hands of our most crafty player that has natural PG skills to put it in the hands of a low IQ guy with a high dribble.
White needs to have the ball in his hands a lot more than Murray. Even DeRozan should.
But have you noticed that most of ST still inexplicably rates IB higher? I mean why would anyone, after what White did last season and how he's showing out with Team USA, not think White is easily the best PG on the team?
10 fold.
Because Murray, in his rookie year, made an actual all nba-defensive team. It’s not like he was some scrub. You may like White better, especially due to offense, but there are legit reasons to think Murray can be very impactful too with some improvements.
American black player in pop’s system = no PT, made into a pariah, screamed at constantly etc
Why is everybody putting Murray as the starting PG? Dude is just coming off an ACL injury, Pop will be limiting his minutes. Best way to do that is by having him come off the bench.
Lineup will be:
White, Forbes, DeRozan, Carroll/Gay, Aldridge
or
White, Forbes, DeRozan, Aldridge, Poeltl
You know Pop is all about continuity.
Last edited by DAF86; 08-09-2019 at 11:31 PM.
he tore his ACL, much shorter recovery time. he should start because he’s a better player than white in nearly every way and is two years younger.
White will probably take over the Manu role, and be the glue-guy. I'd see him perhaps as the first guy off the bench, and always in the game the second half of 4th quarters.
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