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    Castro wanted people to know which local leaders maxed out for Trump. I expect they'll get public feedback of all kinds -- good, bad, worse and totally indifferent. It's also foreseeable that people will vote with their feet, for and against any associated businesses based on the information.

    Do you think politicians are obligated to curtail their own speech, or to refrain from singling people out?
    that, sir, is a trick question.

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    that, sir, is a trick question.
    That question, sir, goes to the solution -- if any -- for the purported problem.

    If we grant that politicians have an obligation to limit their own free speech so as not to endanger others, it is time to move on to whether Castro actually endangered other people merely by highlighting public information, and if yes. how that might be remedied, consistent with the 1st Amendment etc..

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    These jokers want the opprobrium that attaches to the complaint of recklessness, without the logical consequences of upholding the principle defended.

    It's frankly not hard to see why, that principle is so easily turned around on Trump.

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    which underlines how the griping about Castro is a deflection.

    another mass shooter who took inspiration from the President's insistent, inflammatory rhetoric about immigration, is apparently not as scary as pointing out publicly who's all in for Trump.

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    here's the sort of thing Castro might have been aiming at, putting pressure on businesses and donors to reconsider their support:


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    What did Castro want his followers to do with this information?
    Put pressure on people to justify/reconsider their support. Why wouldn't that be legit?

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    Team trump really looking like snowflakes behind this. Looking Charmin soft.

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    Unlike Trash, JC didn't exhort

    "rough 'em up"

    "If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you?

    Seriously, OK? Just knock the ... I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise,"

    he said security guards were too gentle with a protester. "He's walking out with big high-fives, smiling, laughing," Trump said.

    "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."

    "Get him out," he said of a protester. "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court. Don't worry about it."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

    Hilarious you rightwingnutjob assholes are OUTRAGED that JC simply highlights some people using public information.



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    Put pressure on people to justify/reconsider their support. Why wouldn't that be legit?

    Seriously? What kind of "pressure" should be applied to retirees and homemakers who support a president you don't like?

    People should be able to support whichever candidate they want.

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    Seriously? What kind of "pressure" should be applied to retirees and homemakers who support a president you don't like?
    Are these people listed retirees and homemakers, Darrin?

    People should be able to support whichever candidate they want.
    Nothing is making them unable to do so.

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    Seriously? What kind of "pressure" should be applied to retirees and homemakers who support a president you don't like?

    People should be able to support whichever candidate they want.
    People should be able to see who is buying off our politicians.

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    Seriously? What kind of "pressure" should be applied to retirees and homemakers who support a president you don't like?

    People should be able to support whichever candidate they want.
    Public criticism (media coverage, public/social media comment) doesn't prevent anyone from supporting the candidate of their choice. People deciding all on their own to support or not support businesses based on who they support likewise restricts no one's ability to support any given candidate.

    There's no right to max out on political contribution without the public knowing. Doesn't the public deserve to know who's spending money to influence elections and officials?

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    People should be able to support whichever candidate they want.
    Umm they are.

    These people though want it both ways. They want to support someone who is disliked overall but also want to remain anonymous for fear of losing customers.

    People deserve to know what one is about. Stop whining about this already.

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    People should be able to see who is buying off our politicians.
    You DO realize that this a list of people who maxed their donations as individuals. That's just $2,800

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    You DO realize that this a list of people who maxed their donations as individuals. That's just $2,800
    What's your great fear here, Darrin?

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    Trump donor targeted by Castro says he's raised $1 million for president's campaign since 'outing'


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...n-since-outing


    : )

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    Trump donor targeted by Castro says he's raised $1 million for president's campaign since 'outing'


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...n-since-outing


    : )
    So what's the problem again, Qhris?

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    What's your great fear here, Darrin?
    The market might vote with its feet against pro-Trump business owners, but I wouldn't rule out that some of them might benefit from the notoriety. The stubborn refusal to consider possible positive consequences tells you something about Darrin's priors.

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    Trump donor targeted by Castro says he's raised $1 million for president's campaign since 'outing'


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...n-since-outing


    : )
    Backfired. Good. Joaquin Castro is one of them neoliberal corporatist Democrats (Republican lite). I still applaud him for what he did though. People should know who is buying off every politician.

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    You DO realize that this a list of people who maxed their donations as individuals. That's just $2,800
    What's the problem with this being public information? What's the problem with public figures highlighting the information?

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    The market might vote with its feet against pro-Trump business owners, but I wouldn't rule out that some of them might benefit from the notoriety. The stubborn refusal to consider possible positive consequences tells you something about Darrin's priors.
    It could definitely backfire on Castro, but that doesn't excuse his very poor taste and questionable motive.

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    It could definitely backfire on Castro, but that doesn't excuse his very poor taste and questionable motive.
    What was in poor taste?

    What, in your opinion, was his motive?

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    Backfired. Good. Joaquin Castro is one of them neoliberal corporatist Democrats (Republican lite). I still applaud him for what he did though. People should know who is buying off every politician.
    Not interested in your trolling. Appreciate it if you didn't quote me in the future. Please and thank you.

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    It could definitely backfire on Castro, but that doesn't excuse his very poor taste and questionable motive.
    Facts over feelings. Facts don't care about your emotions.

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