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    I think bump stocks should be illegal based on the fact they are re ed. In all honesty, anyone that's ever bumpfired a gun realizes its little more than a novelty, and theres a million ways to do it without purchasing a seprate stock.


    The assault weapons ban that was enacted under Bill Clinton is a perfect example of what's wrong with gun policy. It made it expensive and bersome to import cheap quality guns but propped up the AR market. Also the "armor piercing bullets" side is artificially propping up domestic ammo manufacturers. I think anyone that tells themselves that they need guns for hunting or defense is kidding themselves. Its for their enjoyment and more importantly so we don't end up like the other countries. That picture from spain this last week of the firefighters trying to protect the people from the police portrays something that would not so easily happen here. The other side of the argument paints that scenario like its a zombie apocalypse but its a real scenario.


    On the other side of the coin, I've noticed that the ones that I am aware of that carry aren't the quiet calm guy that's always cool headed. Most often their brash, tough guy mentality. And that specifically includes ex military.

    I don't care if someone conceal carry's but way to often it ends up in a bar, employment, etc.... I had a guy i work with unexpectedly show me his 1911 ( that i didn't know he was carrying) in my home one time. He mentioned his new gun and a split second later its in his hand being drawn out at MY kitchen table with my kids around. If an ex marine doesn't know that not only should he not have that in a company vehicle, let alone a customers house, i don't think that any gun owners can be 100% responsible.

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    forum conservatives avoiding this like the plague.
    I don't understand the point it's making. What does it have to do with the OP?

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    I think bump stocks should be illegal based on the fact they are re ed. In all honesty, anyone that's ever bumpfired a gun realizes its little more than a novelty, and theres a million ways to do it without purchasing a seprate stock.


    The assault weapons ban that was enacted under Bill Clinton is a perfect example of what's wrong with gun policy. It made it expensive and bersome to import cheap quality guns but propped up the AR market. Also the "armor piercing bullets" side is artificially propping up domestic ammo manufacturers. I think anyone that tells themselves that they need guns for hunting or defense is kidding themselves. Its for their enjoyment and more importantly so we don't end up like the other countries. That picture from spain this last week of the firefighters trying to protect the people from the police portrays something that would not so easily happen here. The other side of the argument paints that scenario like its a zombie apocalypse but its a real scenario.


    On the other side of the coin, I've noticed that the ones that I am aware of that carry aren't the quiet calm guy that's always cool headed. Most often their brash, tough guy mentality. And that specifically includes ex military.

    I don't care if someone conceal carry's but way to often it ends up in a bar, employment, etc.... I had a guy i work with unexpectedly show me his 1911 ( that i didn't know he was carrying) in my home one time. He mentioned his new gun and a split second later its in his hand being drawn out at MY kitchen table with my kids around. If an ex marine doesn't know that not only should he not have that in a company vehicle, let alone a customers house, i don't think that any gun owners can be 100% responsible.
    This is all over the place, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

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    CNN triggers DMC again.

    Hates the network but cant stop tuning in.
    If I say almost any of the new source you left-wing types will just laugh at the source. I know you're all gooey wet over CNN

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    This is all over the place, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
    Its discussion. My opinion on gun control is neither left nor right. Its muddied just like my response. I don't trust gun nuts but yet i have 8 of them and i think it is a right to do as they please with them.

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    I don't understand the point it's making. What does it have to do with the OP?
    It doesn't. The crumb snatchers come in and get their shots in when they can.

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    The OP was self-contradictory .

    OP should thank us for salvaging his thread with tangential discourse.

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    The OP was self-contradictory .

    OP should thank us for salvaging his thread with tangential discourse.
    "us"

    You and your alts?

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    yawn...

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    Nothing changes. Same , different day.

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    There will still be speculation. And the potential benefit will increase when buyers realize can actually get done in congress. Right now gun speculation is limited by the fact that enough people know nothing is going to get passed.

    Ban bump stocks, then figure out what might be next on the chopping block.
    Well, those did get banned.

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    Nothing changes. Same , different day.
    Because (they) can't be trusted. It's crazy to actually view these incredible weapons on the police blotter. But, if I give (you) that weapon(s), it will only wet your appe e, your need to avenge the old man's ravaging of Clinton assurance of the Presidency. (You) won't even stipulate to a toe in the water. " you. I'm taking everything I can get my mitts on."

    & Spurm is right in his materiel that Pav's cited. (They're) waiting that triple...House, Senate, WH...

    So, as always when an occurrence like yesterday & Friday take place I urge all Americans:::double your stockpile, triple your ammo dump & if you haven't already done so...teach yourself how to build ammunition there in your home. That SOB Hussein during his 8 years was purchasing it constantly on the open market & destroying it as fast as it was manufactured.

    + urge RBG to go toward the light.

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    Nothing changes. Same , different day.
    Yup


    "Washington(CNN) A Texas Republican state representative said he opposes stricter gun laws and that people should instead be "praying for protection" hours after a mass shooting shook West Texas.

    Republican Matt Schaefer posted on Facebook Saturday that "so-called gun-control solutions" won't "stop a person with evil intent," and that people should instead pray for victims and those with "evil intent."...

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/polit...ing/index.html

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    "Washington(CNN) A Texas Republican state representative said he opposes stricter gun laws and that people should instead be "praying for protection" hours after a mass shooting shook West Texas.

    Republican Matt Schaefer posted on Facebook Saturday that "so-called gun-control solutions" won't "stop a person with evil intent," and that people should instead pray for victims and those with "evil intent."...

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/polit...ing/index.html
    Your side will not deal fairly, Blake. You have no intention of dealing honestly. You crave vengeance, total annihilation of Trump & his endeavors & you make no bones about it, whether it's immigration, or gun materiel.

    You think we don't see that? There's no chance anything will happen till January of '21 at the earliest, no matter who prevails.

    You made your bed, climb in there, sweetheart, get your comfy on.

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    Oh hey another crazy made up narrative about me. Neat.

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    "Washington(CNN) A Texas Republican state representative said he opposes stricter gun laws and that people should instead be "praying for protection" hours after a mass shooting shook West Texas.

    Republican Matt Schaefer posted on Facebook Saturday that "so-called gun-control solutions" won't "stop a person with evil intent," and that people should instead pray for victims and those with "evil intent."...

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/polit...ing/index.html
    also said he would NEVER vote for any kind of gun control

    ing hole TX, its bag Repugs,and the bags who elect and reelect them. A bunch perverted sickos.

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    Repug policies, in support of Capitalism and Christian hate, have, are, and will sicken, hurt, impoverish, and kill 10Ks of Americans by denying healthcare, by refusing to restrain health care costs, and by increasing pollution of air, land, water.

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    What makes you guys think another new gun law will stop these mass shootings? Premeditated murder is already illegal and punishable by life in prison or death yet they still do it. If the media really cared about mass shootings they would collectively agree to quit publishing the names and biographies of these nuts that want to go out in a blaze of "glory" like that.

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    What makes you guys think another new gun law will stop these mass shootings? Premeditated murder is already illegal and punishable by life in prison or death yet they still do it.
    The fact that gun laws have stopped them in other countries.

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    Taking guns away wont fix anything. We live above the snake pit of cartels that will have mules, smuggling tunnels and trucks loaded with black market weapons the moment anything resembling confiscation.

    I can see how it works for an isolated country like Australia or a country surrounded by like minded neighbors. That's not us, our society is spoiled and will do what they want when they want. It's something inherent about us, we think we can have whatever we want whenever we want.

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    Except for the fact that most of the guns in mexico come from here.

    Also, how do you figure incel white idiot with no black market connections approaches a cartel member about purchasing an illegal weapon? How do you think that conversation goes?

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    The fact that gun laws have stopped them in other countries.
    Other countries didn't have the pollution of 300M guns and centuries old culture of gun violence, nor a perverted, politicized, weaponized 2nd Amendment paid for by BigGun and SCOTUS s helping the gun violence.

    Any attempt at regulating gun sales is decades too late, and bound to fail. The horses are out of the burning barn. Closing the doors now is risible.

    And of course there won't be any Federal regulations with MoscowMitch running the Senate, (Fed govt can't even study gun violence or do mj research) and red/slave states ain't gonna regulate . And SCOTUS s are ready to block any gun regs as UnCons utional.

    The American disaster of gun violence is without solution, no hope. And nobody offers any practical path to solving it.

    Then there is toxic manhood culture of less childish men and boys who think owning, knowing guns is the foundation of their manhood. them all.

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    Taking guns away wont fix anything. We live above the snake pit of cartels that will have mules, smuggling tunnels and trucks loaded with black market weapons the moment anything resembling confiscation.

    I can see how it works for an isolated country like Australia or a country surrounded by like minded neighbors. That's not us, our society is spoiled and will do what they want when they want. It's something inherent about us, we think we can have whatever we want whenever we want.
    Australia isn't the only country where gun laws have worked.

    The "it'll never work" arguments always rely on hypotheticals; meanwhile we have real world examples of gun control working. I'm willing to give it a shot against the hypotheticals.

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    "arguments always rely on hypotheticals"

    it's wishful thinking that gun regs will never be passed, which is the most probable future.





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    "arguments always rely on hypotheticals"

    it's wishful thinking that gun regs will never be passed, which is the most probable future.




    You got 60 votes in the Senate? Nope.

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