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    You ain't gettin' the guns, 21. That's it, Fort Pitt. Savvy? You gonna volunteer to go door-to-door pryin' 'em loose from cold, dead fingers? Nope
    shhh, adults are talking

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    shhh, adults are talking
    Just checkin' assholes; I spotted you-&-you fit the bill.

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    No one was arguing that a ban is futile to begin with. The only point made was clear and concise. Maybe dont make such massive leaps in logic.
    the inference was clear given the your comment and the comment you were agreeing with

    People are going to get what they want if they want it. Junkies, sex addicts, gun addicts.
    this goes back to my point, which you claimed was a strawman. a ban WILL decrease the activity. just won't eliminate it. i think thats a very good start. we still have laws against murder even though murders still happen.

    and this point DOES suggest that a ban would be futile. otherwise what's the point of throwing this out there?

    To answer your question, it wont be as bad as prohibition, but the black market for weapons already exists. to deny that there will be a black market for weapons is ridiculous. There already is a fairly large one, we see it with inner city violence (stolen and smuggled) and cartel shipments that get busted are commonly found with huge caches of weapons.

    The cartels, like their Mafia predecessors, will follow the money. The illegal market that already exists will just boom.
    yeah, there will still be black markets. there are black markets for illegal drugs. people get their hands on them. but to a lesser degree than if they were legal. thats my whole point

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    Just checkin' assholes; I spotted you-&-you fit the bill.
    cept i'm not in favor of a blanket ban on guns, repeal of 2A.

    farthest i'd like it to go would be mandatory buyback program of semi auto rifles, and strict limits on handgun capacity

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    cept i'm not in favor of a blanket ban on guns, repeal of 2A.

    farthest i'd like it to go would be mandatory buyback program of semi auto rifles, and strict limits on handgun capacity
    I see you, 21. So does the NRA. You want to get your foot in the door, then push us to the slope that is slippery. No. You can't be trusted because your goal is not honest & forthright. We cannot deal, son. No.

    Like I've said: this, like all other things American will run it's course. Each of us has to hope & pray that we ain't unlucky and get shot in the mean time.

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    the inference was clear given the your comment and the comment you were agreeing with


    this goes back to my point, which you claimed was a strawman. a ban WILL decrease the activity. just won't eliminate it. i think thats a very good start. we still have laws against murder even though murders still happen.


    yeah, there will still be black markets. there are black markets for illegal drugs. people get their hands on them. but to a lesser degree than if they were legal. thats my whole point
    LOL, no. Chris said literally, "bad people dont care about laws". I said "illegal doesnt mean inaccessible". Beyond benefitting your argument, I dont get how you get to that conclusion in ten words.

    The point I was making, regardless of your disagreeable leap in logic, is pretty much validated with your post. People will get what they want, even if it's illegal. This is why black markets exist. That's the point that was made, hopefully its clarified well enough for ya.

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    accessible for some =/= accessible for all

    If it's illegal not all people will get what they want if it's that much harder to get

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    accessible for some =/= accessible for all

    If it's illegal not all people will get what they want if it's that much harder to get
    No one said that it wouldn't help. No one said that it would be completely ineffective either. But the fact remains that there is already a large black market for weapons and the lovely cartels to the south of us have no problem accommodating the American appe e for contraband.

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    People will get what they want, even if it's illegal. This is why black markets exist.
    No one said that it wouldn't help.
    That's literally what you're implying in the top post.

    I agree it won't be completely ineffective. If a tougher gun law stops just one person from killing, would it not be worth it?

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    LOL, no. Chris said literally, "bad people dont care about laws". I said "illegal doesnt mean inaccessible". Beyond benefitting your argument, I dont get how you get to that conclusion in ten words.

    The point I was making, regardless of your disagreeable leap in logic, is pretty much validated with your post. People will get what they want, even if it's illegal. This is why black markets exist. That's the point that was made, hopefully its clarified well enough for ya.
    again. this creates the inference that bans are futile and have no effect. a point which you simultaneously deny making

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    "i'm not saying that bans would have no effect, i'm just saying that everyone will just get things illegally anyway"

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    If a tougher gun law stops just one person from killing, would it not be worth it?
    That's truly the dumbest argument the left makes. If restricting <insert any right> helps just one person...derp.

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    I suggested what amounts to a BOLO after a weird 911 call and ST Oath Keepers blew a gasket.

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    farthest i'd like it to go would be mandatory buyback program of semi auto rifles, and strict limits on handgun capacity
    Make M14's and .38 Specials great again!

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    Make M14's and .38 Specials great again!
    sorry if that crushes your fantasy of single handedly defeating the US military in the event of tyranny

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    sorry if that crushes your fantasy of single handedly defeating the US military in the event of tyranny
    PADDOCK STILL COULD HAVE SHOT 400 PEOPLE WITH A REVOLVER 300 FEET UP AND 1000 FEET AWAY IT'S JUST SCIENCE

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    That's truly the dumbest argument the left makes. If restricting <insert any right> helps just one person...derp.
    K, what's the downside of restricting <insert assault style rifle>?

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    K, what's the downside of restricting <insert assault style rifle>?
    That nothing to do with my comment but I'll answer anyway.

    I don't own one so I'd say none imo, but then you'll just move onto blaming <insert "style" rifle>.

    Oh and...

    lol "assault style"

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    That nothing to do with my comment but I'll answer anyway.

    I don't own one so I'd say none imo, but then you'll just move onto blaming <insert "style" rifle>.

    Oh and...

    lol "assault style"
    People actually say "assault style" because if we don't ST Oath Keepers launch into their one of their diversionary technical gun term diatribes. See: clip/magazine.

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    In the redneck south gun laws are expected to be lax, especially with open carry, however, an alarming amount of legal non white individuals who open carry throughout Texas and other states in the redneck south gets the cops called on them and then the cops come out guns already drawn, seems like whites only want whites to open carry and exercise their second amendment, not nonwhites.

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    PADDOCK STILL COULD HAVE SHOT 400 PEOPLE WITH A REVOLVER 300 FEET UP AND 1000 FEET AWAY IT'S JUST SCIENCE

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    That nothing to do with my comment but I'll answer anyway.

    I don't own one so I'd say none imo, but then you'll just move onto blaming <insert "style" rifle>.

    Oh and...

    lol "assault style"
    Well if there's no downside but there's potential upside then you seem pretty stupid.

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    People actually say "assault style" because if we don't ST Oath Keepers launch into their one of their diversionary technical gun term diatribes. See: clip/magazine.
    No they say it because they won't take the time to learn what they are talking about. Even though it's not complicated at all.

    I don't mind "clip" but when they start talking about "silencers" it is annoying since there is no such thing outside of hollywood.

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    Well if there's no downside but there's potential upside then you seem pretty stupid.
    Still doesn't make your if it helps just one person argument any better. Why not stick with the tried and true what about the children defense.

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    Still doesn't make your if it helps just one person argument any better. Why not stick with the tried and true what about the children defense.
    but enough about abortions

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