trump impeachment watch thread

[TSA]

Have no preference about WaPo, but they’re batting waaaaay better than fake news... like not even close.

[ElNono]

This sums up what I’m expressing here pretty well, and why the House really has no alternative now.

Without an impeachment process to check the White House, ‘the office of the presidency will morph into one with virtually unlimited power’
Kimberly Wehle is a professor at the University of Baltimore School of Law, and author of How to Read the Cons ution — and Why.

Was this an impeachable offense? Democrats in Congress seem to increasingly believe the answer is yes, and this is a political judgment, not a legal one. Accordingly, the Cons ution’s standard for an impeachable offense—“High Crimes and Misdemeanors”—does not require proof of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt.

But based on the phone call meeting notes alone, it is clear that President Trump asked the Ukrainian president to “look into” his political opponent and—in that connection—he served up the assistance of the attorney general of the United States. This is after the Ukrainian President brought up Senate-authorized military aid that we now know Trump was holding up, to the apparent dismay of a key supporter in Congress, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. This is not to mention the ulative effect of this news in addition to the other concerns about this president.

Whether Trump is ultimately impeached is beside the point. This issue is that, absent invocation of some impeachment process to check the White House, the office of the presidency will morph into one with virtually unlimited power. This is bad for regular people, regardless of political party.

[ElNono]

Lying to a grand jury and obstruction, nancy

You can lie to a grand jury about eating a vanilla ice cream and you still usually go to jail for it. Of course unless you are the president and own the senate

I will spell it out for you. He was impeached for lying not the subject of his lying

so did this guy, according to Mueller... (at least on the obstruction side)

The point being, we’re not dealing with law, but a political bar.

[ElNono]

What’s so funny? That’s what serious news outlets do, print corrections when they’re wrong.

Where’s the QAnon correction

[ElNono]

Let’s put this in context:

The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents is not serious and no big deal, but an alleged pedo ring running off the inexistent basement of a pizza parlor is serious business? Are you guys listening to yourselves?

I get hater’s angle that without the Senate they can’t remove him. Reasonable, but misses the larger point, IMO.

[ducks]

AOC dismisses polls showing disapproval of impeachment, suggests Dems should be willing to lose reelection

[LkrFan]

She is lying

So David Dennison has more credibility?

[hater]

so did this guy, according to Mueller... (at least on the obstruction side)

The point being, we’re not dealing with law, but a political bar.

Trump never spoke to a gran jury

[hater]

What’s so funny? That’s what serious news outlets do, print corrections when they’re wrong.

Where’s the QAnon correction

using serious news outlet to refer to wapo

They are like the wilt chamberlain of fake news. And rarellg correct their fake stories. Most of th efake news of last few years have been parroted by other outlets starting with "according to the wapo".

This is just yesterday for christsakes

You really should pay attention more or just stick to commenting on Manu and video games nig

[pgardn]

using serious news outlet to refer to wapo

They are like the wilt chamberlain of fake news. And rarellg correct their fake stories. Most of th efake news of last few years have been parroted by other outlets starting with "according to the wapo".

This is just yesterday for christsakes

You really should pay attention more or just stick to commenting on Manu and video games nig

Name ONE news outlet you use that is better than WaPo.
Just one.
You can’t.

[LkrFan]

Facepalm

[pgardn]

Remember that hater is convinced The NY Times an arm of the CIA even though this news outlet brought up much of the work done by the CIA in Central and South America to help undermine democracy. The same Banana Republics Hater considers home. Also The NY Times help tell the story of the big fruit companies and their massive role.

But, But, But....

Fckn idiot....

[CosmicCowboy]

Facepalm

Geez, Pence needs to go too. Someone with integrity PLEASE primary Trump.

[baseline bum]

Geez, Pence needs to go too. Someone with integrity PLEASE primary Trump.

So they can get their teeth kicked in by Trump in the primary? Trump is exactly what assholes like Limbaugh and Hannity have taught the right wing electorate of this nation to desire, and there will be many more in Trump's image leading the way for the GOP in the future. It's his party and GOP voters love him. He wasn't lying when he said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes from his base.

[koriwhat]

hahaha wapo lied, pelosi lied, all the dems lied, and the show goes on... same ol tune. the party of re s that cry wolf.

[CosmicCowboy]

So they can get their teeth kicked in by Trump in the primary? Trump is exactly what assholes like Limbaugh and Hannity have taught the right wing electorate of this nation to desire, and there will be many more in Trump's image leading the way for the GOP in the future. It's his party and GOP voters love him. He wasn't lying when he said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes from his base.

I dunno. I run with a pretty conservative crowd. A lot that loved him two years ago are pretty embarrassed by him now.

[TSA]

Let’s put this in context:

The actual POTUS asking for a personal favor (his own words) to a foreign president, directing him to talk to his Attorney General and his *personal* lawyer, about digging dirt on one of his political opponents is not serious and no big deal, but an alleged pedo ring running off the inexistent basement of a pizza parlor is serious business? Are you guys listening to yourselves?

I get hater’s angle that without the Senate they can’t remove him. Reasonable, but misses the larger point, IMO.

That wasn’t the favor he asked for. Did you not read it in full for yourself?

[LkrFan]

[Pavlov]

TSA still spinning.

Tough day for the poor fella

It's all over but your shouting now.

[CosmicCowboy]

TSA still spinning.

Tough day for the poor fella

It's all over but your shouting now.

Did you get the DTs today chump? I could just see you staring at the screen hitting refresh after refresh and finally curling up in a fetal position trying to argue with yourself.

[baseline bum]

I dunno. I run with a pretty conservative crowd. A lot that loved him two years ago are pretty embarrassed by him now.

I do too. They all love him because he hits back against the media that Limbaugh and Hannity have poisoned them against for the last 20+ years. I don't know a single Trump voter who is embarrassed or who wouldn't vote for him again. And I know a lot of Trump voters. About the worst I have heard is the typical "I wish he would stop tweeting".

[baseline bum]

The way every conservative I know sees it:

Trump:GOP :: Duncan:Spurs

[Pavlov]

Did you get the DTs today chump? I could just see you staring at the screen hitting refresh after refresh and finally curling up in a fetal position trying to argue with yourself.

Thank you for thinking about me in multiple threads. I could just see you posting about me in multiple threads like so much derp.

[LkrFan]

[LkrFan]