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Mise en scene:
Amber Guyger dyed her hair blonde. Not sure that'll make a difference, but she does appear somewhat "whiter" for that.
That said, US sentencing guidelines and penalties are comparatively excessive across the board. I’d be down with scaling it all down. Give discretion back to judges.
Last edited by Winehole23; 09-28-2019 at 01:04 AM.
Mise en scene:
Amber Guyger dyed her hair blonde. Not sure that'll make a difference, but she does appear somewhat "whiter" for that.
She did display suitable remorse in court. That probably will count in her favor too.
An unarmed black immigrant man killed immediately by a white cop in Dallas?
I think the cop has very little to fear.
Judge/jury/prosecutor will probably decide that losing her job and all the time and worry the "poor little thing" spent on this fiasco is more than enough enough punishment.
Whose paying for her defense? Dallas taxpayers?
Will his St Lucia parents sue her civil court?
And as always, if he had been white, would he be alive?
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Last edited by boutons_deux; 09-28-2019 at 07:08 AM.
I think 5 years is too tough for a reflexive self defense killing based on mistaken iden y.
But that's just my opinion.
You mean too little. She deserves at the very least 20.
I'd go with five to ten. You can get out in twenty easy for first degree murder in Texas.
The question is if you believe her self-defense claim was reasonable. If so, she should be acquitted anyways. If not, then 5 years imo is a very reasonable sentence.
I'm in the camp that thinks she was unreasonable. The context of her multiple erroneous actions up to the shooting and her admittance she was 'scared to death' but still willing to barge into the apartment gun drawn vs calling for backup as per protocol proves this. Why would I believe the victim was charging towards her vs her simply shooting him with a hair trigger based on the forensic evidence?
In fact I think she's lying about key details for self-preservation.
well duh.
All cops lie to protect themselves and to protect other cops. The Blue Wall
And ultimately that's where the laws may be too rigid. Because I think she should still have jail time even if the self defense was "reasonable" reaction. Ultimately her mistake cost the life of someone else. What are the criminal ramifications of turning the wrong way on a one-way street and killing another driver in a head-on collision? I assume you get more than a traffic ticket?
I'm pretty sure the jury will be instructed they have la ude to consider the lesser charge of 'criminally negligent homicide' which carries a sentence from 0.5-2 years (or a fine) tbh. I still think it's murder, but realistically, this is probably the prosecution's best bet.
people capable of reflexive killing need to be held to a certain standard
Seems like in a world where we (1) allow people to carry around weapons that kill and (2) allow people to shoot to kill when their property is at risk, that standard potentially involves everyone.
lethal force is never permitted merely for the defense of porperty
particularly when one enters an apartment under su ious cir stances when the door was open
and you know what, if you're going to carry lethal force, then yeah you have some duty to the public to act responsibly
Can you imagine the precedence set if she is allowed to skate?
Sitting in our own farking houses and gunned down by a Whoopsie I thought this was My Place.
Jury:
5 Black
4 Hispanic
2 White
1 Asian
8 of 12 are women.
Property is probably not the right word to have used.
I assume that in most cases if you walked into your (actual) apartment and an intruder was there, the law (and most juries) would permit you to react as if your safety was threatened?
"lethal force is never permitted merely for the defense of porperty"
Remember the Houston? story of a guy acquitted for shooting two robbers running away at night. IIRC I think it wasn't even his house being robbed.
IIRC, shooting at night at anybody on your property is AOK in gun crazy hole TX
Last edited by boutons_deux; 09-30-2019 at 10:56 AM.
closing arguments are live
Prosecuter: "What burglar is going to break into your apt, get a bowl of ice cream, plop down on the couch, smoke some weed and watch t.v.?
"I guess based on that all of you jury members here are a deadly threat."
Nicely done.
Prosecuter: "What burglar is going to break into your apt, get a bowl of ice cream, plop down on the couch, smoke some weed and watch t.v.?
"I guess based on that all of you jury members here are a deadly threat."
Nicely done.
he did a good job
Yikes. The defense is really leaning hard into 'reasonable doubt'
Is this a public defender?
He's boring AF.
Ya that was why the prosecutor said insert "reasonable person" every time the defense liar might attempt to say Amber thought Amber said Amber blah blah.
The ambulance people got their within 60 seconds? FOH.
'Oh well that she didn't do CPR -he would have died anyway.'
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