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    Yikes. The defense is really leaning hard into 'reasonable doubt'
    Overrated album tbh.

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    Property is probably not the right word to have used.

    I assume that in most cases if you walked into your (actual) apartment and an intruder was there, the law (and most juries) would permit you to react as if your safety was threatened?
    i think typically in the context if somebody being in your home at night, you can argue that your personal safety (or family in the house) is at risk. i was being a bit nitpicky, but if you have no reason of knowing you're in physical danger, you cant use lethal force. ie you invite somebody into your house, and halfway through a conversation he just yanks your TV off the wall and starts running out, and you shot and killed him, you'd be doing time

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    Overrated album tbh.
    D'Evils is top 5 songs all time, come at me brah.

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    I'm pretty sure the jury will be instructed they have la ude to consider the lesser charge of 'criminally negligent homicide' which carries a sentence from 0.5-2 years (or a fine) tbh. I still think it's murder, but realistically, this is probably the prosecution's best bet.
    Shocker they did not include this charge, as news panel is discussing. Manslaughter did not seem like the appropriate alternate charge. Won't be totally shocked if she's acquitted tbh

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    i think typically in the context if somebody being in your home at night, you can argue that your personal safety (or family in the house) is at risk. i was being a bit nitpicky, but if you have no reason of knowing you're in physical danger, you cant use lethal force. ie you invite somebody into your house, and halfway through a conversation he just yanks your TV off the wall and starts running out, and you shot and killed him, you'd be doing time
    Is her bull story the first time (that you know of or can access thru sources) a charge and defense like this has hit the US courts?

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    Did Numb Nutts public defender who gave media interview in spite of clear gag order the night before the trial began now set up easily winnable appeal by Shooter McGuyger?

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    D'Evils is top 5 songs all time, come at me brah.
    Indeed a great song, but the rest of the album drops off hard.

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    They really should have tried Guyger as a black male in this case tbh.

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    They really should have tried Guyger as a black male in this case tbh.
    The judge turned the castle doctrine on its head in the jury instructions:


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    To paraphrase a tweet I saw earlier:

    I HAVE NO DUTY TO RETREAT FROM YOUR HOME

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    The judge turned the castle doctrine on its head in the jury instructions:

    i never would have thought the castle doctrine would be used to justify the killing of somebody in that person's own castle

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    this is so insane considering some who accidentally kill others in car crashes go straight to prison for a long time but this drunk cop comes strolling into a different apt downstairs with a mat at the door, unlike her doorstep, and after sexting just to blow this dudes chest into pieces.

    our justice system is ridiculous.

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    To paraphrase a tweet I saw earlier:

    I HAVE NO DUTY TO RETREAT FROM YOUR HOME
    Robert Rogers, another of Guyger's defense attorneys, said the prosecution failed to "do their duty" and show that Guyger wasn't reasonable in her actions.
    "We actually, even though we have no duty, we showed you how this was a reasonable mistake," he said.

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    Guyger thru her defense liarwyers:
    But but but he was standing up coming at me so i had to shoot him in the chest.
    Vs real trajectory of bullet:

    We'll see if the jury consists of dumb s or racists. BTW, what's it gonna take 12-0, 10-2? Can the Sleaze Team have paid off only one juror to get the W?

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    The judge turned the castle doctrine on its head in the jury instructions:

    I figured it would be considered applicable here, it's Texas after all.

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    If Guyger skates I wonder if we're going to see riots in Dallas just like LA 1992.

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    If Guyger skates I wonder if we're going to see riots in Dallas just like LA 1992.
    I'd bet on more Micah Johnsons only now they will mistakenly enter cops' homes before murdering them.

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    Robert Rogers, another of Guyger's defense attorneys, said the prosecution failed to "do their duty" and show that Guyger wasn't reasonable in her actions.
    "We actually, even though we have no duty, we showed you how this was a reasonable mistake," he said.
    You would take the side of state power against the innocent victim.
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    The judge turned the castle doctrine on its head in the jury instructions:

    Racist decision?

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    To paraphrase a tweet I saw earlier:

    I HAVE NO DUTY TO RETREAT FROM YOUR HOME
    this is a recipe for official mayhem

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    Sorry, King, I mistook the castle!

    (King dies.)

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    Winehole, in your avalanche of thought droppings did it ever occur to you that the judge is considering intent? Of course not.

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    Couldn't say. The judge probably considers it a careful balancing of equities. Saying the castle doctrine protects the confused cop but not the legit resident confuses me

    How do you gloss it?

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    If Guyger skates I wonder if we're going to see riots in Dallas just like LA 1992.
    No. It's not a big story with impeachment talks happening. Rodney King beating was front and center.

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    To me, look like there could be a precedent where, if the cop is confused, he/she can blow you away at home without penalty.

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