I don't love demars fit on this team but tell me who on this team can average 21/6/6? I love all are young pieces but none of them other then Dwhite imo has showed anything in important moments
Split up among those that can play D.
Net big gain.
You're like that sap in a fantasy league that will trade 1 A player for 3 C players. Yes, in the aggregate, they may be able to replace the numbers, but you can't play the 3 of them simultaneously with 4 other players. You can play DD with 4 other players, because that's a 5 man lineup. You need guys who can individually produce those numbers to replace him, and none of them have shown that they can.
Incredibly stupid and unfortunately not surprising in the least. He should be treated as a sunk cost and they should be trying to salvage whatever minimal value they can for him (probably a lottery protected 1st, fringe young player and salary filler), but instead their ego/pride is going to supersede what's best for the franchise again.
There is no number (it'll probably be similar to Aldridge's extension) that's a good one because he doesn't make sense going forward and it won't increase his trade value markedly (and I'll believe they'd operate like that when I see it) because the only 2 teams he makes sense for are the Pistons and Magic and even if they reach an agreement in principle on a trade, they could stipulate that it's contingent upon his agreeing to an extension first.
Except we already have guys on the roster to take on a chunk of that 21/6/6 and who need the opportunity.
My God...How far have we fallen? Some morons in here are really trying to talk themselves into an aging iso midrange baller as the centerpiece of the team. DeRozan never worked before and he never will. He will never win a le. Nor will he ever come up big in the biggest moments.
This is just the FO trying to save face from the Kawhi deal rather than ending up with nothing, while trying to "do right" by DeRozan by making him feel like he has a home. This doesn't make sense from a basketball standpoint and you PATFO slurpers know it deep down. You know what you thought about him before he was a Spur....Same with LMA and Gay for that matter.
I guess I am 1 out of 3. I always liked Gay. But tbh that was back when he still had a little speed/quickness.
Counting stats in '19. How do you know they can't produce them (on poor efficiency, which I notice you conveniently left out)? Give them approaching 35 mpg and a 30% usage and they probably at least come close.
Either way, it's irrelevant because he's a low impact player, with an archaic skillset that's extremely difficult to build around. They could attempt to spin that trading for him was because he was the best value available, but committing to him is the ultimate sign that they're content being a treadmill team.
There's probably a good chance the collective upside of Murray, White and Walker is being overrated, but that doesn't change the fact that they're the franchises best hope for a future beyond treadmill status. They need to be put in a position to flourish, not have their development stunted to prioritize a pseudo star.
Our great hope is the production of the guy who can't shoot will be replaced by two guys who can't shoot.
At least they're young or youngish, relatively or totally unestablished and can't shoot. There's hope and time. He's none of the above and stuck in his ways.
I'd rather see them with more of a 3 and D wing alongside. Maybe they'll flounder and drown and none will prove capable of shouldering a featured option's burden, but at least then we'll know.
I actually think Demar took some strides in his defense last year, especially the playoffs. I'm sure Spurs have seen that. Most players just don't want to take the energy to play defense because it throws their offensive rhythm a little off and they are tired. If Demar can focus on the dirty work (similar to what Lamarcus has been doing for us) and we sign him at a reasonable rate, it may be a good play. If Demar is in contract year mode then he may just worry about his offense so he can up his free agency market value. Fans like numbers, and teams like making fans excited.
reminder that the spurs went from having kawhicheal Jordan to trying to convince ourselves that extending this sack of won’t set the franchise back 10+ years
What's your point? Dude always wanted to go to LA.reminder that the spurs went from having kawhicheal Jordan to trying to convince ourselves that extending this sack of won’t set the franchise back 10+ years
It's not about who can make up his production, it's about being able to be a player if FA....if DD came off the books we would be looking at a near max cap slot...if we can't sign anyone (as usual), use the cap space to make a trade...sad that this is going to be the "big move" that the new GM makes...another albatross contract like gasol and parker, that will not help the team compete.
Can we start a fire Brian Wright thread/movement? I’d rather have more iso Lonnie than iso Derozan
people saying he gives you 20/6/6, those are empty number on a team that had no point guards for like the first quarter of the season. Look at the spurs his plus minus on and off the court...only reason we won any games is bc we had the best bench that dug us out of the 15 point whole the first unit put us in. I know there are 4 other players but his fit with LMA is bad and causes spacing problems
I've said this before and gotten on, but I'll say it again...
DeMar seems to have gotten really close to some of the guys...particularly Murray. He is also really close with Gay, but Rudy is on the tail-end of his career.
If the Spurs want Murray to be a part of the future, and they feel that pissing off DeRozan is going to interfere with that...that could be a problem.
I want all the players to succeed, for the sake of themselves as well as the team...I just hope that personnel decisions aren't being made on relationships. But, for better or worse, that does seem to be a part of the Spurs' "culture"
If that's the case they may as well package Murray with DeRozan to try to get back a good player. Murray hasn't shown anywhere near enough on the court to get the clout for personnel decisions to be made based off who he likes off the court.
DeRozan better be shooing 35-40 % from 3 next season if he gets this extension (still not sure even Chip can take a 9 year career .283 3pt% shooter and turn him into a decent shooter).
Derozen has so much athleticism and skill. But he’s a bonehead with zero bball IQ, so his talents actually works against him in late game/playoff situation because he thinks he can drive or score every time. Frustrating to watch.
Hopefully the ball will be Murray’s hands late and derozen won’t waste possessions while everyone just watches him turn it over.
Only makes sense to extend him that early if he has drastically improved his 3-point shot. Then I don't mind it, but I wouldn't want to pay more than 30 million per year for him. 27 per year on the current market is actually ok, but if they pay him 30 or more then nah. Let's see what he looks like and for how much it is. The Aldridge extension was great and a discount. I just want the Spurs to have some flexibility for next offseason so they can go after Jaylen Brown.
I also think that there's a good chance that Lonnie Walker can score like last years version of DeRozan pretty soon if he'd get the same amount of shots and minutes. It kind of makes sense to line up DeRozan's contract with Lonnie's, so that when DeMar comes off the books they can extend Walker
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 10-04-2019 at 09:44 PM.
"One source who saw DeRozan work out this summer in Los Angeles told The Athletic that his shooting looks improved and his mindset will benefit from a full summer to digest the knowledge gained after a year in Gregg Popovich’s system"
if this is the case give Chip Engeland the super max
DDR would have been better than MJ if he played in thr 90s, so it’s not that bad
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