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    Herr Gaetz

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    ‘Trump confessed on television’:

    Fox News’ top political editor says the impeachment case is clear


    America’s Newsroom host Bill Hemmer turned towards Fox News Political Editor Chris Stirewalt and

    said that there’s “no record” of the allegations against Trump and

    his apparent pressuring of the Ukrainian government to investigate his political rivals.

    “There is a record for those committees even if they meet without television cameras present,” Stirewalt responded.

    “We are early in this process, number one,” he said.

    “Number two, the whistleblower doesn’t matter anymore. … The whistleblower is substantially irrelevant.

    The President confessed on television — he said, ‘I did it,’ and

    then he added China to it,

    which sort of obviates the question about is there a whistleblower, isn’t there a whistleblower.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-confessed-on-television-fox-news-top-political-editor-says-the-impeachment-case-is-clear/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29



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    Darrin and DMC like the article that says Dennison is a stupid blind jackass .

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    >> Posts article criticizing executive's absues of executive powers, focusing on retaliation whistle-blowers
    >> Sees no problem in Trump's use of executive powers to pressure political opponents.

    But hey, it says MSM bad, right?

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    I'm not exactly surprised that the intelligence apparatus reacted differently to whistleblowers who exposed torture abroad and secret surveillance programs than they did to a whistleblower who revealed that the President of the United States was negotiating foreign aid in exchange for dirt on political rivals. Consider the stakes.

    That's not a defense or an endorsement, it's just to say that concluding that the Ukraine whistleblower is a fraud, or a cog in a larger coup of the President, is a massive reach. Pointing out the differences in consequences, particularly without contrasting the means by which the information was "leaked" (the Ukraine WBer didn't go to Wikileaks, for one thing), is not a very effective case.

    I like Taibbi but he's reaching pretty unfortunate levels of paranoia these days.

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    Meanwhile Chelita Manning sitting in jail with no charge for a few months already

    Deep state detests real whistle blowers like Snowden and Manning yet they are sucking the out of this whistle-blower LMAO

    I feel sorry for the pathetic Americans who actually believe this Cia agent is a whistle-blower

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    Let's take a closer look

    - is a Cia agent? Check
    - infiltrated the white house? Check
    - is now hiding behind Cia skirts? Check

    That's no whistle-blower. That's a spy

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    Meanwhile Chelita Manning sitting in jail with no charge for a few months already
    The charge is contempt of court. She's guilty of that. Her sentence is the fine and incarceration for the duration of the grand jury.

    Pretty simple.

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    I'm not exactly surprised that the intelligence apparatus reacted differently to whistleblowers who exposed torture abroad and secret surveillance programs than they did to a whistleblower who revealed that the President of the United States was negotiating foreign aid in exchange for dirt on political rivals. Consider the stakes.

    That's not a defense or an endorsement, it's just to say that concluding that the Ukraine whistleblower is a fraud, or a cog in a larger coup of the President, is a massive reach. Pointing out the differences in consequences, particularly without contrasting the means by which the information was "leaked" (the Ukraine WBer didn't go to Wikileaks, for one thing), is not a very effective case.

    I like Taibbi but he's reaching pretty unfortunate levels of paranoia these days.
    One of my first reactions was that wb volunteered as part of group of IC people who knew the Trash-Ukraine crime.

    Trash called the IC Nazis in his campaign.

    Later said he didn't believe 17 IC agencies that Pootin had meddled and did believe Pootin saying he didn't.

    I expect those two items plus lots more of Trash daily has boiled a lot blood in the IC (and their military friends) people, who saw the Ukraine crime as the perfect opportunity for totally legal payback.

    All they needed was for someone to sacrifice his normal life and blow the whistle, which he did through totally legal channels.
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    Let's take a closer look

    - is a Cia agent? Check
    - infiltrated the white house? Check
    - is now hiding behind Cia skirts? Check

    That's no whistle-blower. That's a spy
    "infiltrated"

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    Cheljta is in jail for refusing to testify against Julia Assange

    The got judge is just pissed. ing s

    Chelita already answered all the questions. They just want to ask her again and test her memory and make her fall in a trick question so they can charge her of perjury and force her to BS about Assange to avoid serious jail time

    She's a national hero. Scratch that she's a world heroine. Lmao contempt of court. The court is a joke it's the 7th distri t of Virginia. That's not a court that's a ing Clown show.

    Cheljta chelita chelita!!!


    USA usa usa!

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    Cheljta is in jail for refusing to testify against Julia Assange

    The got judge is just pissed. ing s

    Chelita already answered all the questions. They just want to ask her again and test her memory and make her fall in a trick question so they can charge her of perjury and force her to BS about Assange to avoid serious jail time
    why doesn't she just give the same answers then?

    Simple.

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    Cheljta is in jail for refusing to testify against Julia Assange

    The got judge is just pissed. ing s

    Chelita already answered all the questions. They just want to ask her again and test her memory and make her fall in a trick question so they can charge her of perjury and force her to BS about Assange to avoid serious jail time

    She's a national hero. Scratch that she's a world heroine. Lmao contempt of court. The court is a joke it's the 7th distri t of Virginia. That's not a court that's a ing Clown show.

    Cheljta chelita chelita!!!


    USA usa usa!
    You are a Putin guy.
    Dont act like you are offended.

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    We dont need a fckn whistleblower except to look at the depth of stupidity and who all is involved.

    Trump could not hold back his traitor mouth all on his own.
    This is all that is needed. Then to make it all better, he asked China.
    He done in 2020.

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    That's absolutely the worst legal strategy I've ever heard.

    Getting imprisoned and fined $1000 a day for a year and a half to pwn...er...no one....

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    Oh please do this.
    Censure Schiff for mocking our dumb ass president for hitting himself in the face.

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    Bill Clinton asked UK's Tony Blair to 'take a look at' fixing problem during 2000 'political season': do ent

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    LMAO at the idea of Ben Sasse ever turning on Trump. He talks a lot of to attention in front of cameras just like Flake and Corker did, but just like those two losers he falls in line behind Trump every time there is an actual vote that matters.

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