Spurs and DeRozan Discussing Extension

[itzsoweezee]

Amazing to see the DeRozan truthers bashing the young guys. I'm definitely taking down names on this one.

By the way, if your argument for extending DDR is that the young guys aren't good enough, you need to point out what benefit DDR is going to provide in the alternative. If you're suggesting that keeping DDR is necessary so that the Spurs get be a first round knockout as the 8 seed for the next 5 years, then own it, you morons.

I'd rather have a rebuilding core with some chance of greatness down the line by rebuilding through the draft or free agency than years of middling incompetence.

[SpursDynasty85]

Amazing to see the DeRozan truthers bashing the young guys. I'm definitely taking down names on this one.

By the way, if your argument for extending DDR is that the young guys aren't good enough, you need to point out what benefit DDR is going to provide in the alternative. If you're suggesting that keeping DDR is necessary so that the Spurs get be a first round knockout as the 8 seed for the next 5 years, then own it, you morons.

I'd rather have a rebuilding core with some chance of greatness down the line by rebuilding through the draft or free agency than years of middling incompetence.

Why are you so sure they are a 8th seed and first round knockout. This young team with DD and LMA could be a middle seed and fight for a conference final berth. Injuries could give us an outside shot to Ship as well. Murray looks poised to be a really good player, Forbes and White are already good and have some playoff experience. This is better than rebuilding since rebuilding means we start at the bottom give young players more minutes but means we pay them more because of stats but gain nothing back in them knowing how to win in the playoffs. The way we do it now is build our young team around some playoff experience and give us an outside shot at making noise. Pretty simple.

[KDKSpurs24]

Why are you so sure they are a 8th seed and first round knockout. This young team with DD and LMA could be a middle seed and fight for a conference final berth. Injuries could give us an outside shot to Ship as well. Murray looks poised to be a really good player, Forbes and White are already good and have some playoff experience. This is better than rebuilding since rebuilding means we start at the bottom give young players more minutes but means we pay them more because of stats but gain nothing back in them knowing how to win in the playoffs. The way we do it now is build our young team around some playoff experience and give us an outside shot at making noise. Pretty simple.

Exactly. He’s talking about rebuilding but at this point I can’t sit through losing seasons. It would be torture. I’m too used to us wining games and making playoffs. I know championships are great and the goal but damn I just can’t take that risk. I wouldn’t abandon the team because I don’t do that but it would take a lot of my joy from watching the NBA and Spurs basketball. I hope we can one day win again but lots of teams have tried to rebuild and have been horrible ever since. It’s too rare. The way that we are currently building is better than the alternative. People should be careful what they ask for because if we trade them and rebuild and start losing most nights people are gonna be complaining more than they are now.

[TimDunkem]

Why are you so sure they are a 8th seed and first round knockout. This young team with DD and LMA could be a middle seed and fight for a conference final berth. Injuries could give us an outside shot to Ship as well. Murray looks poised to be a really good player, Forbes and White are already good and have some playoff experience. This is better than rebuilding since rebuilding means we start at the bottom give young players more minutes but means we pay them more because of stats but gain nothing back in them knowing how to win in the playoffs. The way we do it now is build our young team around some playoff experience and give us an outside shot at making noise. Pretty simple.

You overrate this team. They're a 7th seed at best and not the kind that makes noise, but the kind that gets knocked out in the first round.

Sure, the Spurs are better with Murray this year and maybe Lonnie taking a step forward, but just about every other damn team did too.

[Dennis the Menace]

Lonnie? Lmfao. How the f has he proven himself

I’m saying that Lonnie can create his own shot. Are you arguing that he can’t?

[cd98]

Amazing to see the DeRozan truthers bashing the young guys. I'm definitely taking down names on this one.

By the way, if your argument for extending DDR is that the young guys aren't good enough, you need to point out what benefit DDR is going to provide in the alternative. If you're suggesting that keeping DDR is necessary so that the Spurs get be a first round knockout as the 8 seed for the next 5 years, then own it, you morons.

I'd rather have a rebuilding core with some chance of greatness down the line by rebuilding through the draft or free agency than years of middling incompetence.

Yes, but the same holds true for you. If the young guys never mature into players that are as good as DDR, then you give up the chance to make the playoffs to "develop" players that never pan out. Spurs have drafted some gems, but they've also drafted a lot of role players. If the young guys are all just role player level, then trading DDR would be a dumb move.

[cd98]

Why are you so sure they are a 8th seed and first round knockout. This young team with DD and LMA could be a middle seed and fight for a conference final berth. Injuries could give us an outside shot to Ship as well. Murray looks poised to be a really good player, Forbes and White are already good and have some playoff experience. This is better than rebuilding since rebuilding means we start at the bottom give young players more minutes but means we pay them more because of stats but gain nothing back in them knowing how to win in the playoffs. The way we do it now is build our young team around some playoff experience and give us an outside shot at making noise. Pretty simple.

If this year is like last year, the difference between the 8th seed and the 2nd seed could be like 6 games.

[cd98]

I’m saying that Lonnie can create his own shot. Are you arguing that he can’t?

I hope he can, but to this point, we only know he can do it against summer league compe ion. Lots of guys can dominate that level and get to the NBA with better defenders and better team defense and they can shut down a young, inexperienced player. Lonnie is raw. No guarantee he's going to mature into a shot creating/scorer in a month or even in the next 5 years.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

reminder that we could’ve kept Jonathan Simmons, Dedmond and kawhi but pop is afraid of outspoken black American athletes

How exactly is Kawhi outspoken??? Dude is a fvcking mute. His only opinion rests upon Uncle fvcking up his finances.

And Jonathan Simmons sucks, that's why he's not a Spur.

I like people pretending that they understand Pop's motivation to keep a player.

[RC_Drunkford]

Yes, but the same holds true for you. If the young guys never mature into players that are as good as DDR, then you give up the chance to make the playoffs to "develop" players that never pan out. Spurs have drafted some gems, but they've also drafted a lot of role players. If the young guys are all just role player level, then trading DDR would be a dumb move.

it's pretty clear that at least 2 of them, maybe even 4, have a much higher ceiling than being role players

[cd98]

it's pretty clear that at least 2 of them, maybe even 4, have a much higher ceiling than being role players

We’ll see. I hope so. No guarantees any will be better than DDR. I’m sure he won’t be in the way of their development. Pop has a deep rotation. If a player does well, he’ll get minutes. I don’t know if you extend DDR or not. But a trade will bring back less value than DDR and if he’s gone Spurs won’t make the playoffs. And if Spurs wait to resign and he has a great year, he’s gone.

[tonight...you]

The dude probably didn't spend a single day during the Summer in SA. Unless Chip was following him around to LA and Wyoming I doubt he got any work in with him. It all hinges on the work DD himself put in, and based on the depressing ass he posts and his track record I'm not holding my breath.

Chip does follow their players around, but... like you, I'm not holding my breath either.

[tonight...you]

You overrate this team. They're a 7th seed at best and not the kind that makes noise, but the kind that gets knocked out in the first round.

Sure, the Spurs are better with Murray this year and maybe Lonnie taking a step forward, but just about every other damn team did too.

The West has so many good teams this year...
Spurs have a tough road to hoe.

[DejuanorwhatDude]

Amazing to see the DeRozan truthers bashing the young guys. I'm definitely taking down names on this one.

By the way, if your argument for extending DDR is that the young guys aren't good enough, you need to point out what benefit DDR is going to provide in the alternative. If you're suggesting that keeping DDR is necessary so that the Spurs get be a first round knockout as the 8 seed for the next 5 years, then own it, you morons.

All of this.

I'd rather have a rebuilding core with some chance of greatness down the line by rebuilding through the draft or free agency than years of middling incompetence.

[Genovaswitness]

I wonder if nipsey hussle watches spurs games from heaven

[RC_Drunkford]

We’ll see. I hope so. No guarantees any will be better than DDR. I’m sure he won’t be in the way of their development. Pop has a deep rotation. If a player does well, he’ll get minutes. I don’t know if you extend DDR or not. But a trade will bring back less value than DDR and if he’s gone Spurs won’t make the playoffs. And if Spurs wait to resign and he has a great year, he’s gone.

DeRozan is a great mentor for Murray, White and Walker. It makes sense to have his contract expire when they have to resign Walker. I think that's the plan. It all depends on how much he'll get paid and if he's shooting 3s

[bigfan]

If the price is right, do it. He's a very good player regardless of the some of the comments above.

[james evans]

I knew it. Popovich is purposely destroying this team for when he leaves.

[YGWHI]

Lowry got $31/1 year extension. I just need to know that our new GM thinks that type of contract is too much expensive.

[exstatic]

Lowry got $31/1 year extension. I just need to know that our new GM thinks that type of contract is too much expensive.

GMs only do what owners will allow, financially. It's the reason that Harden plays for Houston now, and not OKC.

[baseline bum]

At least make DeRozan prove he can stay on the same floor as Murray before giving him another boatload of money. If he's going to shoot 15.6% from the three this year there is no way he can play with Murray and one of them will have to go.

[Mugen]

I wonder if nipsey hussle watches spurs games from heaven

[YGWHI]

GMs only do what owners will allow, financially. It's the reason that Harden plays for Houston now, and not OKC.

In young Holts we trust.

[SAGirl]

Ugghhh. I suppose he has some trade value but that’s not happening most likely.

[tmtcsc]

Lowry got $31/1 year extension. I just need to know that our new GM thinks that type of contract is too much expensive.

Same GM that just gave Rudy Gay 32 Million ? After that non-existent playoff performance?