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    Why do it now? What is the tangible benefit for SA?
    Reassures a player who might feel a little insecure...?

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    the reason for the guarantee was the basis of this entire conversation

    why would they do this now?

    you: because they dont think he will get hurt.

    but why do it now when they could do it later? (aka, what other reason is there)

    you: because they dont think he will get hurt
    I just listed the reason above the post you quoted. If you want to pretend I didn't, that's fine. I won't repeat myself.

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    Nah. They did it because the risk is minor and signals to everyone that they don't want to blow up the team anytime soon.
    Yep. Just the signal they would want to send Dumbmar if they are in serious negotiations with him at this time.

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    I still think LMA is staying here or going back to Portland. I’d be shocked if he ever wears another jersey.

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    I just listed the reason above the post you quoted. If you want to pretend I didn't, that's fine. I won't repeat myself.
    oh so their reason was to signal to other people their plans. got it.

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    oh so their reason was to signal to other people their plans. got it.
    Sure. With your admitted minimal risk, why not?

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    Sure. With your admitted minimal risk, why not?
    whats the value of signaling their plans?

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    whats the value of signaling their plans?
    Keeping the players they want to keep. They weren't signalling you.

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    Keeping the players they want to keep. They weren't signalling you.
    elaborate... whats an example of how giving out this signal would help the spurs?

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    LMA was never gonna get traded at this deadline.
    I know, but at least doing it later would've kept that option on the table.

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    elaborate... whats an example of how giving out this signal would help the spurs?
    It lets the other players and their agents know that ST Armchair GM Operation Blow It Up As Soon As Possible isn't actually the plan. Players looking to sign for more years in a stable Spurs situation might actually like that.

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    It lets the other players and their agents know that ST Armchair GM Operation Blow It Up As Soon As Possible isn't actually the plan. Players looking to sign for more years in a stable Spurs situation might actually like that.
    nice, we can re-sign patty and marco now.

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    nice, we can re-sign patty and marco now.
    Are those the only players you can think of who might be re-signing? Seems pretty disingenuous tbh.

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    Are those the only players you can think of who might be re-signing? Seems pretty disingenuous tbh.
    i haven't heard anything of the spurs being in discussions to extend any current players beyond derozan. murray has already re-upped. white/walker are still cost controlled. i mean you're looking at bryn/poodle, but they could easily wait until later in the season to guarantee LMA's salary if that's the only reason. and that's assuming those guys' decisions to re-up are influenced by LMA's contract now being guaranteed

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    i haven't heard anything of the spurs being in discussions to extend any current players beyond derozan. murray has already re-upped. white/walker are still cost controlled. i mean you're looking at bryn/poodle, but they could easily wait until later in the season to guarantee LMA's salary if that's the only reason. and that's assuming those guys' decisions to re-up are influenced by LMA's contract now being guaranteed
    Oh, so there ARE other players all the sudden.

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    LMA at that price makes more sense than any garbage free agent next summer.

    That's a fact. Looking at the recent contracts, LMA for $24M is a bargain. Next year's FA class is weak, so he would be a hot commodity. So much so that I hope the decision was the result of talks between LMA and the team. They have a right to lock him up, but it prevents him from getting that last big contract next season. So I hope it was done in a way that says they team really wants him around.

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    Oh, so there ARE other players all the sudden.
    if they are talking to their agents, and they say they will re-sign if they have assurances that LMA is going to be around, then yes that would be a reason. but there hasn't been any reporting (spurs beat writers are notoriously terrible) of extension talks with those guys. and doing it now still provides no tangible benefit compared to... doing it next month, or 3 months from now, etc. the farther along you do it, the more risk you are mitigating. unless those guys are going to extend imminently, it serves no purpose (on that front) to guarantee him now

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    LOL. Thread devolution at its finest.

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    if they are talking to their agents, and they say they will re-sign if they have assurances that LMA is going to be around, then yes that would be a reason. but there hasn't been any reporting (spurs beat writers are notoriously terrible) of extension talks with those guys. and doing it now still provides no tangible benefit compared to... doing it next month, or 3 months from now, etc. the farther along you do it, the more risk you are mitigating. unless those guys are going to extend imminently, it serves no purpose (on that front) to guarantee him now
    You already said the risk was minimal. Waiting for the risk to be even minimaler makes minimal sense. Might as well just tie it in with DJ's signing now.

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    You already said the risk was minimal. Waiting for the risk to be even minimaler makes minimal sense. Might as well just tie it in with DJ's signing now.
    it's still good sense to reduce a risk when there's no cost associated with it. why put the cart before the horse, even if you anticipate that the horse will catch up?

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    it's still good sense to reduce a risk when there's no cost associated with it. why put the cart before the horse, even if you anticipate that the horse will catch up?
    Again, the other available horses are garbage. Those other horses are ty nags. Why keep ty options open if they're ty?

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    Again, the other available horses are garbage. Those other horses are ty nags. Why keep ty options open if they're ty?
    risk of injury or some rapid decline during the season. the above makes sense if they were exercising an option. they wouldn't lose anything on that front by waiting a few months. the only thing they'd lose that you've brought up is signaling, which unless one of their key guys gets extended midseason, didnt accomplish anything

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    risk of injury or some rapid decline during the season. the above makes sense if they were exercising an option. they wouldn't lose anything on that front by waiting a few months
    And they don't think that's going to happen. Easy choice when any other option is going to be ty anyway.

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    And they don't think that's going to happen.
    and yet no tangible cost in waiting it out

    Easy choice when any other option is going to be ty anyway.
    the choice might be a 24 million dollar aldridge that cant play who is fully guaranteed

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    Again, the other available horses are garbage. Those other horses are ty nags. Why keep ty options open if they're ty?
    risk of injury or some rapid decline during the season. the above makes sense if they were exercising an option. they wouldn't lose anything on that front by waiting a few months. the only thing they'd lose that you've brought up is signaling, which unless one of their key guys gets extended midseason, didnt accomplish anything

    Why are you arguing this so hard? You've got a chance to sign an important player for well less than the current market price, and you want to wait and see, just in case he gets injured? Damn. If teams thought that way, why would they ever sign a multi-year contract. Every player in the league is one missed step from a torn ACL. These teams would just be paralyzed.

    Sometimes you just have to admit that you didn't think things all the way through and move on. Pavlov is exactly right. The other FA "opportunities" next year are pretty much e. Lock up Aldridge and move on to other priorities.

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