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    Beli sucks so far this season but he’s not our big weakness which is playing no-Murray-no-White lineups. Mills-Forbes-DDR is a defensive catastrophe; benching Beli doesn’t automatically solve this problem

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    triggered.
    I can’t explain to you how missing 75% of your shots and not playing defense is actually a good thing but take my word for it, it is a very good thing
    No you can't, but you can try and explain how LW can -today- effectively play meaningful minutes of organized NBA basketball.

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    Beli sucks so far this season but he’s not our big weakness which is playing no-Murray-no-White lineups. Mills-Forbes-DDR is a defensive catastrophe; benching Beli doesn’t automatically solve this problem
    Yes. But the real issue is we have no 3pt volume shooters. Not that I like it, but that is today's NBA. You can win games with a few minutes of bad defense, you can't win many of them shooting just the occasional 3, especially when the offense is static.

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    Yes. But the real issue is we have no 3pt volume shooters. Not that I like it, but that is today's NBA. You can win games with a few minutes of bad defense, you can't win many of them shooting just the occasional 3, especially when the offense is static.
    Well that is exactly the route popovich has chosen. It is not a coincidence that the bench was essentially responsible for Spurs wins last year. This year, they have even less shooting.

    Let Lonnie play and see what we have in him. This is not a contending team regardless, especially if you think giving Bellineli minutes over Lonnie is going to be the difference between wins and losses.

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    Beli has played exactly 30 minutes so far, or, 17 minutes less than the guy on a minutes restriction. I think Pop thought he could turn him into a spot minutes player, but some guys can't make that transition. Hopefully, Lonnie's 4th Q minutes are a sign of things to come.

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    Well that is exactly the route popovich has chosen. It is not a coincidence that the bench was essentially responsible for Spurs wins last year. This year, they have even less shooting.

    Let Lonnie play and see what we have in him. This is not a contending team regardless, especially if you think giving Bellineli minutes over Lonnie is going to be the difference between wins and losses.
    Right now, Lonnie on the floor is not conductive to a win. We have enough guards who don't shoot 3s.
    But I don't see why the alternative is Beli, though.

    We signed Carroll for a lot of money, we'll see his production when he plays. Belinelli will either start making pull up 3s on the sparse occasions he gets the ball (note how few touches he has this year, and never out of a cut or a screen), or will not play.

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    Right now, Lonnie on the floor is not conductive to a win. We have enough guards who don't shoot 3s.
    But I don't see why the alternative is Beli, though.

    We signed Carroll for a lot of money, we'll see his production when he plays. Belinelli will either start making pull up 3s on the sparse occasions he gets the ball (note how few touches he has this year, and never out of a cut or a screen), or will not play.
    The same comments apply to carrol. Play the young guy with lots of potential over the washed up vet who will not be on the team in a year or two. Pretty simple

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    Beli has played exactly 30 minutes so far, or, 17 minutes less than the guy on a minutes restriction. I think Pop thought he could turn him into a spot minutes player, but some guys can't make that transition. Hopefully, Lonnie's 4th Q minutes are a sign of things to come.
    That’s interesting, a reasonable response. A real rarity around here regarding this issue.

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    As a fan, I want walker to play more. But what’s not being considered is that if pop goes slow with him it might actually make him a hungrier, better player.

    Now, as far as how to best utilize walker – – as a heat check score or defensive stopper – – that remains to be seen. I don’t know if Pop has an idea yet where he’s going with this in that regard. But giving the veteran player time to establish his role before it is removed (it’s been 2 games!) should be expected.

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    If Beli minutes go to Carroll, and the guy performs, then I am OK with Belinelli benched. But it doesn't make any sense to play Lonnie: he can't play NBA basket, it is so simple.
    The guy can only jump and run around like a chicken with no head.

    I get it that people playing NBA2K confuse professional organized basketball with a videogame, I am not trying to convince people who clearly do not understand basketball. I am just noting the obvious: LW is not an NBA player.
    There's no reason Beli should play over LW. Zero.

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    Marco coming up BIG against a second round team like Portland. Never doubted him to begin with

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    Still a terrible player that plays losing basketball

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    He’s trying to get more minutes... it worked for Patty Mills in the playoffs last year

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    Ferrari wasn’t bad today. Replacement level shooter, but not bad. Better shooter than Lonnie tbh, which was needed

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    Trade him and fire pop
    Becky much hotter and better coach

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    Marco coming up BIG against a second round team like Portland. Never doubted him to begin with
    BIG BALLZ FERRARI

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    Good news is that Lonnie is finally gonna get some burn this Thursday when Nephew & Co. are absolutely roasting the Spurs

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    The Patty-Marco tandem improves to +19.2 net rating on 34 total minutes played together.

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    The Patty-Marco tandem improves to +19.2 net rating on 34 total minutes played together.
    One more reason to increase their playing time

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    There's no reason Beli should play over LW. Zero.
    From what I saw lastnight, I totally agree.

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    He also hasn't recorded a single block or steal, so he's playing his solid defense as usual. Is there a metric that measures how many points you score vs how many points you give up? Because he's gotta be like -20 in that department.

    I've heard people defend Pop for playing him over Lonnie, but serious question, does anybody think Lonnie could play any worse than Marco? Fluffers, get in here and defend your coach
    Well, look on the bright side. 2 pts only equals 28% means he isn't shooting much and is relying on his defense to keep in the rotation. Go SPurs

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    Trade him and fire pop
    Becky much hotter and better coach
    You call other people cucks but you want sour puss face as coach?

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    Good news is that Lonnie is finally gonna get some burn this Thursday when Nephew & Co. are absolutely roasting the Spurs
    That means you'll get to see first hand how bad he sucks.

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    I don’t know why everyone assumes Marco’s minutes, if reduced, would go to Walker. Pop could also be looking for minutes for Carroll if he likes what he could bring to the table. I can only assume we will start to get a better look at both of these guys in games where core rotation players are resting.

    Edit: I see this has been brought up already, my bad
    Last edited by drpill; 10-30-2019 at 11:15 AM.

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    Belinelli's consistency is amazing. In 17 minutes against the Clippers, 2 points.

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