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    sorry to pull a link dump but i have to go out but didnt want to forget to share this article I just read

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...e-wealthy.html


    ill come back to comment tomorrow!

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    I'm pushing as much income into this year and next year as I possibly can. I'm anticipating big tax increases after 2020.

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    You're not the rich people under discussion here, CC.

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    Gilded age good again.

    There is such a thing as a free lunch for the 0.1%.

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    You're not the rich people under discussion here, CC.
    Everybody that already pays taxes their taxes are going up to pay for all the free .

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    Everybody that already pays taxes their taxes are going up to pay for all the free .
    It's not free. Bernie is crystal clear about that.

    Are you not familiar with how social welfare works? Taxes are laid to pay for it.

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    It's not free. Bernie is crystal clear about that.

    Are you not familiar with how social welfare works? Taxes are laid to pay for it.
    Yep. That's why I'm pushing income into 19 and 20.

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    I'm pretty sure the loonies will be running things in washington after 2020.

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    I'm pretty sure the loonies will be running things in washington after 2020.
    lol like it's not a loony bin now

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    lol like it's not a loony bin now
    Trump sucks donkey s but swapping him for Warren with the house and maybe senate goes from bad to worse.

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    Why does OP hate 'murica tho?

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    Yeah must suck to be rich they are such bad people.

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    Trump sucks donkey s but swapping him for Warren with the house and maybe senate goes from bad to worse.
    So the rich paying their fair share is "worse".

    We should all keep the gimmies for the rich so they can horde more money than a human being could ever use or need.

    The hyperwealthy steal value and money from those under them, and you are happy to go along. smh

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    So the rich paying their fair share is "worse".

    We should all keep the gimmies for the rich so they can horde more money than a human being could ever use or need.

    The hyperwealthy steal value and money from those under them, and you are happy to go along. smh
    You must be "rich" too. I guarantee if Warren gets even half of what she wants the taxes will have to go up on everyone that pays taxes.
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    You must be "rich" too. I guarantee if Warren gets even half of what she wants the taxes will have to go up on everyone that pays taxes.
    I would be happy to pay more in taxes, if I can get single payor, and ditch my current insurer. Paying 40% of every premium dollar for overhead and profit is expensive.

    Making the large corporations pay their share, as well as the hyperwealthy will go a LONG way towards getting the country on the right track.

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    I would be happy to pay more in taxes, if I can get single payor, and ditch my current insurer. Paying 40% of every premium dollar for overhead and profit is expensive.

    Making the large corporations pay their share, as well as the hyperwealthy will go a LONG way towards getting the country on the right track.
    I deal with the US government on a daily basis. Either directly with military employees or contractors they hire to "run things" for them. I have ZERO faith the US government can run health care more efficiently than humana or blue cross etc.

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    I would be happy to pay more in taxes, if I can get single payor, and ditch my current insurer. Paying 40% of every premium dollar for overhead and profit is expensive.

    Making the large corporations pay their share, as well as the hyperwealthy will go a LONG way towards getting the country on the right track.
    So you think you are voting your self interest by voting for single payer just to save money? Pot, meet Kettle.

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    So you think you are voting your self interest by voting for single payer just to save money? Pot, meet Kettle.
    That isn't quite a coherent thought

    Yes, single payor is in everyone's best interest. Even the hyperwealthy would end up benefiting.

    I would though, be not in the interest of large health insurors.

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    I deal with the US government on a daily basis. Either directly with military employees or contractors they hire to "run things" for them. I have ZERO faith the US government can run health care more efficiently than humana or blue cross etc.
    medicare and medicaid are already more efficient.

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    medicare and medicaid are already more efficient.
    That's not true

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    You're not the rich people under discussion here, CC.
    man, thats probably the worst thing you can say to him

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    why?

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    medicare and medicaid are already more efficient.
    true....but a single payer system is the goal. Democrats will lose voters by forcing people to give up their private insurance, so they will have to compromise on a medicare for those who need it plan favored by Buttegiege and Biden

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    Medicare for all is paid for by deductions from all INCOME, not only from earned income.

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