trump impeachment watch thread

[Spurs Homer]

of course

if a PATRIOT were to release the ENTIRE cache of calls between the traitor and putin and other world leaders

the world could hear the treason for themselves

[LkrFan]

Basically

[LkrFan]

[boutons_deux]

Recall that Tom Hagen moved the verbatim call transcript to Top Secret WH server.

But why?

[LkrFan]

[LkrFan]

Truth Nukes

[boutons_deux]

Trump pulls rug out from under GOP lawmakers on impeachment: Forget process arguments

After obliterating any reasonable factual defense of himself on impeachment, Donald Trump has news for Republican lawmakers:

Process arguments really aren't the way to go.

"I’d rather go into the details of the case rather than process," Trump told reporters Monday,

That's probably news to Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz and his fellow GOP storm troopers,

apparently the process arguments Republicans have been harping on about Democrats not taking a full House vote and deposing witnesses behind closed doors isn't good enough for Trump anymore.

“Process is good," Trump said,

"but

I think you ought to look at the conversation with the Ukrainian President.” then remove from WH secret server and publish!

If this delusional idiot weren't running our country,

this development would be hilarious.

Trump still thinks the details of the very phone call that steeled Democrats and bewildered Republicans is the silver bullet.

The evidence against Trump is so damning at this point that even

House GOP fire breathers have stopped defending Trump on the merits of the case against him

because he's simply indefensible by any reasonable standard.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...cess-arguments

In his sicko solipsistic fantasy world, Trash thinks he did nothing wrong, because in his "elite, high finance" world, such corruption is simply how business is done.

Remember when campaigning, he said when people ask him for money, he gives, because he knows he can use them later.

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Senate Republicans coming to grips with the fact that defending Trump is a fool's errand

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...-fool-s-errand

[spurraider21]

Selective leaking without due process is concerning. The Colonel is en led to his opinion about the phone call, but we got the transcripts a long time ago. This is nothing more than mental masturbation for NPCs.

no we didnt. quit spreading this lie

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no we didnt. quit spreading this lie

slander, dirty tricks, cheating, law-breaking, lying is ALL the rightwingnutjobs have and do, and they'll never quit.

[djohn2oo8]

those guys seem excited lol

[boutons_deux]

the GRAVY is running high

Explosive testimony from a decorated war veteran rattles Trump’s White House




he personally witnessed officials pressuring Ukraine to help Trump politically.

Vindman was to tell the House inquiry that he twice reported concerns about improper White House efforts to get Kiev to open investigations designed to help Trump politically.

Vindman said he personally listened to Trump pressure Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky in a July 25 phone call.

offers some of the strongest evidence yet for accusations that Trump abused his presidential powers and broke election laws to gain Kiev’s support for his re-election effort next year.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/explosive-testimony-from-a-decorated-war-veteran-rattles-trumps-white-house/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2830&re cip_id=298460&list_id=1

rwnj and rwhm needn't work, Repugs slander Vindman as double-agent spy with 25 years in US military

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/explosive-testimony-from-a-decorated-war-veteran-rattles-trumps-white-house/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2830&re cip_id=298460&list_id=1

[RandomGuy]

You can’t answer any of the questions because you know you just made up again and none of what you claimed is on the actual transcript.

dishonest piece of

[long thread showing TSA unwilling to answer a simple question, despite agreeing on cir stances of when impeachment should happen]

People who cannot answer honest, fair questions are dishonest sophists.

TSA cannot answer answer honest, fair questions.

TSA is a dishonest sophist.
QED


The early manifestation of Dunning-Kruger.

Why are you dishonest here?

I already told you I’m not interested in playing your game of hypotheticals just to circle back to your original false claim.

I haven't made any claims yet in the course of this back and forth, dishonest sophist.

I have merely agreed with you:
Trump [should] be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents

I am attempting to determine if that happened based on the facts we can both agree on.

You have not answered any questions that might establish facts relevant to that statement, because you are dishonest.

I am merely curious as to why you are dishonest here. Repeating your refusal to answer questions doesn't really tell me why you are dishonest.

Why are you dishonest here?

You aren’t trying to determine anything based on facts. You’ve already made your mind up.

Again, no one wants to play a game of hypotheticals with you.

You aren't trying to determine anything based on facts, which is why you repeatedly won't answer questions about facts. You've already made up your mind up.

You don't want to deal with reality, because you know that Trump did, by your own definition, commit something you yourself admit is impeachable.

That is why you will not answer the honest questions.

You are inherently dishonest, and on some level know that. I already know this.

I am not asking you now anything hypothetical.

I am asking you why you cannot be honest. Your dishonesty is established fact based on your inability to answer.

Why do you think you are dishonest?

Alternately: Do you think you are honest?

[RandomGuy]

=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.

Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.

The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 2nd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 3rd time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[repeats denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 4th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets]

Not really an answer.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 5th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, posts tweets deflecting from central question of impeachment]

Not really an answer to my question.
We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.
The question remains.
Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. [6th time]
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[ignores question, answers other posts]

Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 7th time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

[RandomGuy]

Have the Ukrainians launched an investigation into Biden?

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...3701570212928/

So, yes. Immediately preceding this, Trump released the aid.

Are you stupid enough to think the two are unrelated and no coordination was going on in the background?

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‘Three-alarm fire’: Republicans ‘shaken’ and now fear losing both the Senate and White House
Republicans have been “shaken” by poor fundraising results from vulnerable Senate Republicans,

and fear that could mean GOP control of the Senate is “in serious jeopardy.”

now ??? Republicans are also worrying they may lose the White House as well,

“The Republican Senate majority, once considered relatively safe, suddenly looks in serious jeopardy.

Democrats are raising more money, and polling better, than Republican in bents in battleground after battleground,”

“President Trump trails every major Democratic candidate nationally and in swing states — and his favorable ratings remain well under 50%.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/three-alarm-fire-republicans-shaken-and-now-fear-losing-both-the-senate-and-white-house/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2830

Repugs will quintuple their efforts to suppress / miscount / "meddle" voting

AND

accelerate approving total assholes like Menashi, and young, incompetent, inexperienced extreme right wing ideologues in Federal judgeships for life.

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Devin Nunes loses it on Fox News —

accuses reporters of being ‘assassins’

for spreading ‘Ukraine hoax’

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/devin-nunes-loses-it-on-fox-news-accuses-reporters-of-being-assassins-for-spreading-ukraine-hoax/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2830

Thanks, California for this fake farmer

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Trump’s ‘most favorable witness’ now being eyed for a perjury referral



Politico reports that

Sondland has now been contradicted

by both ambassador Bill Taylor and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman,

who have both testified that Sondland knew more about the president’s efforts to push Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden than he let on.

“Based on all the testimony so far, I believe that Ambassador Gordon Sondland committed perjury,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trumps-most-favorable-witness-now-being-eyed-for-a-perjury-referral-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2830

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‘Are you a clown school dropout?’

GOP lawmaker ripped to shreds for trying to crash Vindman hearing


Rep. Alex Mooney (R-WV) — who shared audio of a phone call he made last week inside the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) during a protest staged with dozens of GOP lawmakers —

attempted to sit in on testimony by Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman before the House Intelligence Committee.

Mooney was turned away because he doesn’t serve on that committee,

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/are..._campaign=2830

LAWLESS Repugs

[djohn2oo8]

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[Winehole23]

Stupidity, venality and incompetence.

Trump brought this on himself. He gave the Democrats the goods. Impeachment is going to happen. Removal is still a long shot, but one shouldn't underestimate Trump's ability to make things worse for himself.

[boutons_deux]

Stupidity, venality and incompetence.

... his entire sick, dysfunctional life.

40% approval, fairly solid, is more evidence that America is ed and un able.

More evidence will be when Senate Repugs, dysfunctional grifters like all Repugs, refuse to convict.

[djohn2oo8]

[Spurs Homer]

Stupidity, venality and incompetence.

Trump brought this on himself. He gave the Democrats the goods. Impeachment is going to happen. Removal is still a long shot, but one shouldn't underestimate Trump's ability to make things worse for himself.

criminality


like ive been saying forever

”a criminal acts like criminals act- they commit crimes”

what else did anyone expect?

did you expect a criminal to suddenly adhere to the law?

a liar to suddenly stop lying?

you knew what he was- you defended him

what other outcome were you expecting?